Anyone else think Sonic Unleashed Looks Fucking Stupid?

[Bahmo]

I've already bitched about it on IGN, but there's no topic here, so here goes.

I enjoyed the Sonic Adventure series a lot, in spite of the hate it gets these days. I enjoyed Sonic Heroes, at least initially, before it grew boring from having to play the same stages four times. I even admit to Shadow the Hedgehog being a guilty pleasure of mine.

This game, though, looks shitty. In the first place, the senseless, skilless speed designs utilized in the GBA series and Secret Rings is a hollow attempt to play up Sonic's dominant aspect while ignoring what made Sonic great in the golden age--good platforming, and loops were there not as eye candy, but as challenges. Acceleration demanded running down hill; there weren't boost panels.

Secondly, not only is it making the same old level design mistakes, but also the same story ones. How many times have we heard the "Eggman summons scary monster he can't control" bit? Too many, I think.

Finally, Werewolf Sonic. What the fuck were they thinking? That's a ridiculous idea that makes the character look dumb.

So yeah, not a buy for me at this point.

[BLEU]

Acceleration demanded running down hill; there weren't boost panels.

There were, like, these things that would pop up and speed you up automatically before big loops, though. Remember those?

Finally, Werewolf Sonic.

What. :|

...so is he faster as a werewolf?

[Battle Net Edition]

No, it's like a brawler game and he has Dhalsim arms that go all plastic man on the baddies.

[Dimnos]

Every Sonic game after Sonic 2 looks retarded as hell. While we are on the subject of craptacular games... WTF is the deal with this Little Big Planet? Every time I see that commercial where he says something about "having this much fun" I lol. I cant see how a rag doll with down syndrome swinging on what can only be described as a cheese wheel hanging from a tree can be fun. Does that game even have a premise?

[Sam]

AND WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH MARIO PAINT? I MEAN WHY THE FUCK DOES THAT FAT WOP NEED TO DRAW SHOULDN'T HIS GREASY ASS BE STOMPIN TURTLES AND SAVING THAT FUCKING BITCH PRINCESS FUCK "OH MAMMA MIA I'MA MARIO I NEED TO DRAW SOMEA SHITA" WHAT THE FUCK THERE AREN'T EVEN ANY CUTSCENES IN THAT BITCH FOR CHRISTSAKES


:rolleyes

[Dimnos]

AND WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH MARIO PAINT? I MEAN WHY THE FUCK DOES THAT FAT WOP NEED TO DRAW SHOULDN'T HIS GREASY ASS BE STOMPIN TURTLES AND SAVING THAT FUCKING BITCH PRINCESS FUCK "OH MAMMA MIA I'MA MARIO I NEED TO DRAW SOMEA SHITA" WHAT THE FUCK THERE AREN'T EVEN ANY CUTSCENES IN THAT BITCH FOR CHRISTSAKES


:rolleyes

:lol

[Angryhydralisk]

People still care about the Sonic franchise?

Worse yet, people are actually giving a shit about Little Big Planet?

[Jeff The Ninja]

I liked the GBA sonic games:\

Im also happy that sonic is the only confirmed playable character in this game.

[Nick]

Just wait. In the Sonic game for 2009 he has a sword.

[darkvare]

nick is right the 2009 sonic and the black knight is worse
http://img.vidaextra.com/2008/07/sonic.jpg totally badass hahaha what a joke

[Guitar Woman]

Little Big Planet is the best game this year and all of you can go FUCK yourselves

[Emu]

Buying this on Wii day 1

haha there are so many newbs in this thread i got confused for a minute am i right

[Sam]

YEAH, WHATEVER FURRY. >:

[DevilWearsPrada]

Exactly what I think. this game is just sega deciding the mutated denizens of the internet need more fetish material.

[Phoenix Gamma]

Sonic died on the Genesis. Sega's just been dangling his body like a puppet to make quick cash to fund their not-shitty products (Valkyria Chronicles). If you honestly look forward to Sonic games anymore, you're either 13, a furry, an idiot, or all three.

[Battle Net Edition]

Can one just be two of those three, or is it a very strict rule about being the animal loving, brutish adolescent?

[Phoenix Gamma]

I'm not sure if a 13 year old would be into that kinda stuff. Then again, when I was 13 there was already a pregnant girl at my school, so there's probably some kid out there that's into animals like that.

[Bahmo]

Playing the handheld 2-D games Dimps made and the dreaded Next-Gen Sonic for PS2 and XBox360 pretty-much killed Sonic for me. With something like Shadow the Hedgehog, it was a ridiculously stupid idea, and would still have been one even if it was a good game. However, I enjoyed the Genesis and Dreamcast Sonic games (at least the main ones; I'm naturally excluding stuff like 3-D Blast or Shuffle), so when they make a games around the same sort of good ideas as that, on far more powerful platforms, and they still end up loads worse, you get the feeling SEGA can't do anything right anymore.

I did actually enjoy Sonic Chronicles, but that game wasn't actually made by SEGA, and it wasn't a traditional Sonic game.

[Nick]

I've always wondered if Sonic Xtreme (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_Xtreme) would have set the stage for decent 3D Sonic games.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/96/Sonic_X-treme_engine_test_screenshot.png

[Phoenix Gamma]

you get the feeling SEGA can't do anything right anymore.

To be fair, SEGA still puts out decent stuff (Valkyria Chronicles has instilled a strong sense of console envy in me), it's just that the studios that work on the Sonic titles are usually really, really bad (namely, Sonic Team).

I've always wondered if Sonic Xtreme (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_Xtreme) would have set the stage for decent 3D Sonic games.

I seriously doubt it. If you've ever seen some of the final videos of the project, you'd see how disorienting the camera is (albeit cool) and how garbage the level design is in tandem to your newly downgraded peripheral vision. There are all sorts of things that would be hard to spot without knowing where everything is firsthand.

I actually kinda like the system used in the 3D Sonic platformers, it's just that SEGA can't fix shit. Homing works whenever the fuck it feels like working (maybe), collisions are usually garbage, and SEGA has this obsession with giving us gameplay we don't even WANT (if you ever played Adventure 2, you probably just beat the shooting/hunting stages so you could hurry up and go back to running).

They can't seem to understand that we just want to run (ex: shooting, hunting, driving, telekinetic floating, rubber-band werewolf combat) and even when they do, they screw THAT up (Secret Rings). Then the next Sonic game "will be the game that sets everything right".

It's like when you're telling a kid to stop picking their nose, and they say they're going to stop, but then they keep doing it.

EDIT: First major review's out. 5/10.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/technology/technologyreviews/videogamereviewsandpreviews/3477009/Sonic-Unleashed-video-game-review.html

[Nick]

Sonic Xtreme featured Sonic before they redesigned him into garbage, and that's rad.

[Phoenix Gamma]

So did Sonic 3D Blast and Sonic Labyrinth.

[Nick]

So did Sonic 3D Blast and Sonic Labyrinth.
Yeah, but those games were not fun.

[Jeff The Ninja]

EDIT: First major review's out. 5/10.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/technology/technologyreviews/videogamereviewsandpreviews/3477009/Sonic-Unleashed-video-game-review.html

Thats all well and good, but the review doesnt say which system the game was reviewed on.

EDIT: Altough Sonic Xtreme has nice looking screenshots, i doubt the game would have been that great. Just the Fisheye lens thing.

[Sam]

I don't think it really matters.

[Phoenix Gamma]

One review says the Wii version is better than the PS3/360 versions because the world map convos have no voice overs.

It's as if taking away features makes the game better. That's how bad it is.

[Jeff The Ninja]

It kind of does when there are two seperate teams working on two different versions.

[Nick]

I hate Sonic Team.

[DeadKennedys]

Sonic will keep sucking because people keep buying that shit. Sonic Team's got no reason to try.

I never liked Sonic back in the day, but at least I could respect it and the people who liked it

[HappyHamster]

I haven't read every single post in this thread yet, so please forgive me if I say something that has already been said before. I'm assuming that at least one or two people have already mentioned that the new Sonic isn't really the same as the older Sonic.. and that the original Sonic (on the Sega) was really just about being a more fast paced platform game, to compete with the "slower" ones (such as Mario) and that the checkerboard ground and multi colored grass on the first level was really there just to make it appear as though Sonic was moving faster than he really was, right?
And that pretty much ALL of the 3D Sonic games were pretty shitty? Adventure was fun, but only if you view it like you would view the new Indiana Jones movie as more of a tribute to Indiana Jones than an actual Indy Jones movie itsself. And if it wasn't bad because of story, it was probably bad because of other obvious issues. Anyway, the new Sonic game shouldn't surprise anyone... Its this odd new trend to take something that used to be good and make it bad. The people who will play it usually don't know any better...
Sonic is the 'blue blur', so naturally there will be games that showcase this speed.. Why they would make him a wear..hedgehog.. is beyond me.

[Angryhydralisk]

They call it a werehog, which would in some way imply he has way too many carbs.

[HappyHamster]

I have an unrelated question... When did Sonic become associated with metal? I can only name two levels from the first two Sonic games where metal really came around .. Springyard (maybe) and Metropolis Zone. But other than that, Sonic has always had a techno feel, as far as soundtracks go. Did this all start because of Sonic CD? Maybe I'm alone in this, but listening to metal-esque music will running past vibrant pink and green trees doesn't seem right to me ... Shadow having metal music makes more sense, since he's 'edgy', but Sonic?

C'est la vie?

[Nick]

What exactly are you trying to tell us.

[HappyHamster]

What exactly are you trying to tell us.

That Sonic is now crap, full of metal cliches (in terms of music) and bland, 'edgy' characters and so many other problems.

[Phoenix Gamma]

The Sonic Rush games actually use a more Jet Set Radio-influenced soundtrack (made by the same guy, actually). If you're into funky stuff, it's worth checking out. Said games are also good, so that's always nice.

Also, Sonic's always had dumb music. Sonic Boom, Super Sonic Racing, Live and Learn, etc.

Sonic! He can really move! Sonic! He's got an attitude! Sonic! He's the fastest thing aliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive.

[Dimnos]

I would like to start a motion to end this thread once and for all. Lock it down and let it be buried in the archives. :posh

[HappyHamster]

The Sonic Rush games actually use a more Jet Set Radio-influenced soundtrack (made by the same guy, actually). If you're into funky stuff, it's worth checking out. Said games are also good, so that's always nice.

Also, Sonic's always had dumb music. Sonic Boom, Super Sonic Racing, Live and Learn, etc.

Sonic! He can really move! Sonic! He's got an attitude! Sonic! He's the fastest thing aliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive.

Yeah, true... I forgot about Sonic Rush. But in terms of the soundtrack playing when you play a game, its usually something funky and techno-y. Usually.

[Nick]

Sonic Team didn't make Sonic Rush, that may be why it doesn't completely suck.

[HappyHamster]

Oh yes, "going right to the point of obtainment as fast as you can" is such a great game. They did that with Sonic Advance 2.
I miss it when I had to make Sonic actually go through a level to find something... Like more rings, a special stage or whevever the little Metal Sonic hologram is, not to go one direction and do little "moves" to gain points or some shit to make me faster or something like that...
Its a fun game in its own way, I guess, but I hate that its a Sonic game...

[Nick]

Obtainment?

[executioneer]

guys i dont think happyhamster's first language is english

[Nick]

He sure fooled me!

[HappyHamster]

Alright, maybe I should use different words...
"Go in one direction to get to the end of the level."
You don't actually obtain anything unless you count the emeralds from the special zones at the end of the levels in the first game.
And english is my first language :(

[Nick]

He just showed you what's up, executioneer.

[HappyHamster]

Nick Nick Nick...:\

[Phoenix Gamma]

Rush Adventure had pretty solid level design, marred only by forced vehicle segments and the need to repeat levels. The bosses were clever as hell too.

[HappyHamster]

I suppose so... but that doesn't instantly excuse the fact that the majority of the gameplay is "Quick, go right! Faster!" ... Unless I have to play further on to actually experience something more? I couldn't get to far into it, I don't care much for "go as fast as you can in one direction."
But then again, its not the worst Sonic related game I've played...

Oh and before anyone says anything, I am fully aware that the majority of otherwise 'simple' platformer games are pretty much "go right to reach the goal", but its just not the same when all it is is just running really really fast with only a small handful of "obstacles."

[Nick]

Isn't that why we liked Sonic games in the first place?

[HappyHamster]

What? No.. that really shouldn't have been the case...
Look, the game was (to my understanding) made to be a more fast paced, action packed platformer to compete with the other platformer games out there. Most notably Mario. But up until after Sonic Adventure was released, it was never soley about going right as fast as you can and jump over the one or two enemies in your way. I mean, look at Sonic 1. A few examples would probably have to be Labrynth Zone (including the third part of Scrap Brain) where you had to go left for a decent chunk of the level too. There were never speed boosts on the ground, and you didn't get 'rewarded' for doing cheap little tricks while you ran as fast as you could through an entire level. Same thing goes for Sonic 2 up to Knuckles.
From what I've seen, the whole trend of making Sonic more about running fast (speed) over anything else happened during the Adventure series and it just stuck.

[Nick]

What.

[HappyHamster]

ಠ_ಠ

Nevermind.

[Phoenix Gamma]

What? No.. that really shouldn't have been the case...

They put loop de loops and BLAST PROCESSING in for a reason. LOOK AT THIS SHIT SONIC CAN RUN IN A LOOP OH FUCK A CORKSCREW THIS IS AWESOME.

Look, the game was (to my understanding) made to be a more fast paced, action packed platformer to compete with the other platformer games out there. Most notably Mario. But up until after Sonic Adventure was released, it was never soley about going right as fast as you can and jump over the one or two enemies in your way.Adventure was only two fifths running, and Adventure 2 was only one third. Also, the Genesis games were the LEAST fun when you were platforming heavily, since Sonic has shit handling in every video game (as opposed to Mario, who controls like a dream).

Sonic was always bad, but we forgave him because he ran fast and had did what Nintendon't.

[Angryhydralisk]

I have an unrelated question... When did Sonic become associated with metal?

You're calling the music in the games metal?

:lol That's priceless. That music is waaaaaaay too happy.

[BLEU]

Yeah, guys. Metal's hardcore shit.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o314/BloodyThesis/Rammstein_Herzeleid_cover.jpg

[MetalMilitia]

Rammstein aren't really metal. More industrial than anything.

[BLEU]

Industrial metal's still metal.

And what the heck is REAL metal then?

[Grislygus]

Pick a name out of the hat. Black Sabbath, for one

[HappyHamster]

Loop de loops were made to look as though Sonic was going faster than he really was, same goes for the checkerboard ground and dual colored grass on the first level. In other levels, you have other distractions that pull your attention away from Sonic primarily, which makes him look faster than he was but the game was never made soley to go right as fast as you can. I have never had handeling issues when it came to Sonic. I've had more issues with Mario when he did that gay ass sliding thing... And Also, to prove that Sonic wasn't initially about 'speed' was how long it took for him to actually get up to full speed. The power shoes was just to add more to it.

Actually.... You've got me there, Angryhydralisk. Going back and such, the music is still more happy-go-lucky but some parts have more metal-esque parts then I would have liked...

Yeah, what is REAL metal? Oh and Rammstein sucks.

[Grislygus]

BLACK SABBATH

[HappyHamster]

BLAST PROCESSING

A term coined by genesis to pretty much say that their system was capable of showing more motion and such as compared to the SNES. That was never made specifically for the Sonic series, and that never meant that Sonic was made soley to go into one direction at full speed.

[Nick]

Sonic was made simply to go in one direction at high speeds. That's why his name is Sonic, and why he runs.


Also Blast Processing represented nothing, it was just a marketing gimmick.

[HappyHamster]

Sonic was made simply to go in one direction at high speeds. That's why his name is Sonic, and why he runs.


Also Blast Processing represented nothing, it was just a marketing gimmick.

Well the gimmick was half true.. I mean, the Genesis was able to show more motion than the SNES at that time, but thats really it.
And I can't tell if you're saying that for a negative reaction or if you really believe that...

[Phoenix Gamma]

I'm thinking you're just arguing for the sake of it. We all agree that Sonic sucks.

[HappyHamster]

I'm thinking you're just arguing for the sake of it. We all agree that Sonic sucks.

Fine, whatever...if thats what you'd like to hear.
But I don't think Sonic sucks. Well, he does now at least... But back then, he didn't, not to me.

[Dimnos]

What they need to do with Sonic is... Make a game like that Link's Crossbow whatever the shit. Call it Dr. (whatever the bad guys name was from Sonic 1 and 2.) Big Game Hunting, or something like that. All you do is hunt Sonic and all his buddies in a modern day duck hunt.

[HappyHamster]

What they need to do with Sonic is... Make a game like that Link's Crossbow whatever the shit. Call it Dr. (whatever the bad guys name was from Sonic 1 and 2.) Big Game Hunting, or something like that. All you do is hunt Sonic and all his buddies in a modern day duck hunt.

I can just hear Sonic's voice saying: "Way not cool, brah!" as brain matter and pits of skull splatter behind him.
Too dark?...

[Jeff The Ninja]

It would be even better if you could shoot him in the legs, crippling him for life.

[HappyHamster]

o_o

[Zomboid]

JEFF I'D LIKE TO SHOOT YOU IN THE FACE, KILLING YOU FOR LIFE

[HappyHamster]

JEFF I'D LIKE TO SHOOT YOU IN THE FACE, KILLING YOU FOR LIFE

Oh come now... It would be fun to shoot the little bugger in the legs.
The blue blur now confined to a wheel chair.
Thats what you get for Sonic X!

[Cheez]

I always look forward to these new games. It means eventually someone's going to have to record themselves playing it and curse their own existence throughout the entire thing. Then it's on youtube.

[darkvare]

Oh come now... It would be fun to shoot the little bugger in the legs.
The blue blur now confined to a wheel chair.
Thats what you get for Sonic X!
i would prefer the torque bow can opener execution from gears 2

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

I think sonic might need to take some family medical leave or something for a while. It seems like Mario can pick and choose what genres he delves into and make it enjoyable. On the other hand there is Sonic shuffle.... I don't think there is anything else that makes me cringe as much as Knuckles "Awww, Maan" whenever he loses...which is a lot.....because it's Sonic Shuffle and nobody wins.

[RaNkeri]

I can't stand it how they try way too hard to make sonic "cool" just to please the 13-14 old kids who play the games while listening to linkin park >:

As much as I hate Nintendo for wanking the same franchises over and over again with minimal changes, their games are still somewhat amusing. Sega however should stop trying these lame ideas with Sonic series, go back to the basics and start over. Remakes of the classic games wouldn't be a bad idea, and the last thing the series need is more lame characters.

[HappyHamster]

I can't stand it how they try way too hard to make sonic "cool" just to please the 13-14 old kids who play the games while listening to linkin park >:

As much as I hate Nintendo for wanking the same franchises over and over again with minimal changes, their games are still somewhat amusing. Sega however should stop trying these lame ideas with Sonic series, go back to the basics and start over. Remakes of the classic games wouldn't be a bad idea, and the last thing the series need is more lame characters.

One problem with a re-make. You know it would be all 3D, 'extreme', Sonic would be a faggot and all the levels would be re-made just so all you have to do is run really fast.
And they would add newer, gayer characters..


Way not cool brah, way not cool.

[Phoenix Gamma]

Jesus dies, Darth Vader is Luke's father, and Sonic was made to appeal to kids.

They'll keep trying to make him cool because that's who he is. Years from now he'll be trying to do whatever's cool then too.

He's Poochie, but way more successful.

[Battle Net Edition]

This is a long discussion, especially considering it doesn't seem to contain any new information than from the first page. Also, Happy Hamster, we get that you're a linguist of the highest caliber, you can stop trying to prove it. We all respect you, very much.

[Tadao]

Way to add post #77 doing exactly what you are passive aggressively crying about.

[Battle Net Edition]

I like feeling like I give something back to the society.

Y'know, like Jesus.

[HappyHamster]

This is a long discussion, especially considering it doesn't seem to contain any new information than from the first page. Also, Happy Hamster, we get that you're a linguist of the highest caliber, you can stop trying to prove it. We all respect you, very much.

Hey...






Jerk face >:

[Jeff The Ninja]

To bring this thread back on track

http://i37.tinypic.com/iofeq0.jpg


Poochie fits into the games better than most of the characters in the series.

[DevilWearsPrada]

pictured, 'simpsons' creator matt groening's guest character for the 'Sonic' games--a gay, anthropomorphic surfing fonzie dog, with a fanny pack.

[Nick]

How is a fanny pack cool?

[Neen]

Exactly. Executives are people who think they know cool. It's all part of the groovy joke.

[HappyHamster]

Exactly. Executives are people who think they know cool. It's all part of the groovy joke.

Well regardless, someone is buying this shit up ... they have no way of really knowing the difference, not that they really care.

[darkvare]

they don't care how it looks or plays as long as it sells. the fact that there are still a lot of sonic fans who belive a good sonic game is still a possibility, pretty much gives them their money back and enough profit to continue this parade of awfulness

[Nick]

I wonder what kind of person a sonic fan is.

[HappyHamster]

Depends on which Sonic mostly... Old Sonic and such.

[TheBigMan045]

Yeah im a sonic fan (old sonic cannot stress this enough) mainly because i've never played on a SNES system and the old games are simple without being crap. Ive never played anything Sonic since the Mega Drive was superceded (Mega Drive=Genesis)

[Jeff The Ninja]

The Sonic Advance series was pretty good. Playing a lot like sonic 2-3. So if you like the old games, you would probably like the advance ones.

[HappyHamster]

The Sonic Advance series was pretty good. Playing a lot like sonic 2-3. So if you like the old games, you would probably like the advance ones.

Maybe the first advance...two was more like Sonic Rush in a way, and three was like Knuckles: Chaotix.

[darkvare]

i liked adventure mostly for the chaos raising i love controlling life for the god complex

[Zhukov]

I was a Sonic fan, I even bought Sonic and the Secret Rings, which was shite, but there is no way in hell that I am disappointing myself again by buying this new tragedy.

Developer's excuses that they can't make a good Sonic game simply because of time and effort being too much, levels being too difficult to create etc etc are bullshit.

[Ant10708]

I just want a new 2D sonic with a shitload of old school style levels

[HappyHamster]

I just want a new 2D sonic with a shitload of old school style levels

Thatd be great.
Wont happen though. :|

[King Hadas]

I think the werehog thing is Sonic Teams way of appeasing older fans who are always bitching about them adding new mascots. I don't think they think a 3-D Sonic game can be carried solely with Sonic game mechanics which is why they always feel they have to add something else; Tails/Shadow/Robotnik's vehicles, Rouge's scavenger hunt, etc, etc. So rather than add an entirely different anthropomorphic character they just turned Sonic into a were-something (watching videos on Youtube he seems to play more like a gorilla than anything else, he has huge, stretchy armstrong arms). Also notice in that future game it's Sonic holding the sword and not some other fuck.

To me, this game looks mediocre, maybe on par with the Adventure games, which is an enormous improvement over the last couple of games in the series. I think they took small step in the right direction.

[pac-man]

The last Sonic I played was Sonic Heroes. It wasn't that bad.

[MetalMilitia]

This has got to be the longest discussion ever where everyone is basically just agreeing with each other.
Sonic sucks - it's time to move on now.

[Zhukov]

It's not so easy to move on. This is a lot of peoples childhood/teenage years we are talking about. It's as if one day Transformers completely sucked (which, may not be too far away from happening after that new movie) and you just told everyone to move on and not expect them to bitch and moan about it. It's going to take some group therapy to sort this one.

[Dimnos]

It's as if one day Transformers completely sucked (which it does after that movie)

Fixed. Now can someone please lock this thread.

[Jeff The Ninja]

Im not saying that Sonic completely sucks, but at this point, I just think that sega should just give the License to a developer other than Sonic Team. Maybe do what Nintendo did with metroid and hand it over to an American Developer who can possibly redeem the series. (Not saying that metroid was in need of redemption, but to show that sonic needs to go into a different direction.)

The first two 3-D sonic games were ok, but far from perfect, but they sold well, so Sonic Team just stopped trying. Because if it has a blue hedgehog on the cover of the box, then people will buy it (a point made in the thead already). If BioWare can turn Sonic into a Decent RPG, then im sure another developer can make and excellent platformer.

[HappyHamster]

I doubt it. Games these days are notorious for being changed up or being generic, with an excpetion to a few.
People will take a game, bend it over and rape it just to please a handful of fans who will buy it up readily.
The old Sonic died, and this new one isnt even classy enough to piss on the grave.

[pac-man]

Because it's classy to piss on graves?

[Guitar Woman]

Guys, holy shit, nobody cares.

[Guitar Woman]

The funny part here is that Sonic has always been horrible.

[Girl Drink Drunk]

Sonic the Hedgehog 3 was awesome you jerks >:

[Phoenix Gamma]

If we all collectively say that Sonic sucks for another 5 pages, maybe he'll stop sucking!

[pac-man]

It's worth a try!

[Nick]

I think everyone is just keeping this thread alive to spite GW.

[Dimnos]

Oh well if its to spite someone then its ok.

[pac-man]

Man, Sonic sucks so bad now. Remember the first three Sonic games? They kicked ass. So did Sonic Spinball.

[Sam]

TODAY ON XBOX LIVE THEY PUT UP THE SONIC UNLEASHED DEMO AND I ALMOST CONSIDERED DOWNLOADING IT TO SEE HOW BAD IT IS BUT I JUST CUT MYSELF INSTEAD. :(

I MADE THE BETTER CHOICE.

[Nick]

:rolleyes:

[Sam]

BECAUSE THAT IS HOW BAD SONIC IS

[pac-man]

Yeah, he sucks.

[Sam]

THE CUTS GOT INFECTED AND THEY MAY HAVE TO AMPUTATE, BUT I STILL BELIEVE I MADE THE BETTER CHOICE.

:rolleyes

[Zomboid]

:rolleyes

[Fathom Zero]

I played the demo, and it was fun! :O

[HappyHamster]

I played the demo, and it was fun! :O

You shut your filthy whore mouth ಠ_ಠ

[Phoenix Gamma]

Got a few games as gifts this year, and a relative got me this because I used to think Sonic was awesome.

Worst controls I've ever had the misfortune to experience. And I own a Wii. The speed levels would be awesome if the game wasn't so buggy like every other Sonic game. Hit detection is borked (that goes double for the wolf stages) and the controls aren't the least bit responsive (again, double for the wolf).

Sometimes I'd press jump multiple times in the air and watch Sonic fall instead of home in on an enemy. I tried with every controller, just incase batteries were low or whatever. It's the game, and other people had the same complaints.

Plus, why the hell is there a world map if nothing happens and all you do is advance some text? I don't care about these ugly characters and I just want to get to the part where I'm playing a video game. It's kinda sad, because the level design for the speed stages is stellar. Plus there's THREE wolf stages for every hedgehog stage.

[Ant10708]

your relatives and thousands like them will guarantee us another shitty sonic game

[Phoenix Gamma]

I never said I liked my relatives :(

I beat it the other day so that I could finally be done with it. The final world has FIVE wolf stages and only ONE speed stage. What the hell? Other times, there would be three or four wolf stages, but the game wanted to make sure that the Okay to Shit ratio was 90000:1.

Sega has learned absolutely nothing over the past decade.

[deadplayer]

No, it's like a brawler game and he has Dhalsim arms that go all plastic man on the baddies.

Agree!

[executioneer]

that's it