zionist jews declared war on nazi germany prior to ww2?

[Geggy]

remember the post i made in the other thread at my facebook account? well it did create quite a stir! interestingly someone brought this up...

http://www.fpp.co.uk/History/images/DExpr_Judea240333.gif

more images here (http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=jews+declared+war+on+germany&spell=1).

links from yahoo search here (http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-501&p=jews+declared+war+on+germany&SpellState=n-3157765693_q-0jcSrTI9gXvxcwdktTtA3wAAAA%40%40&fr2=sp-qrw-corr-top).

[Grislygus]

God, I love these people

EVERYZINK ANTI-JEWISH STARTED IN 1933 AND ONLY AFTER ZE ZIONIST JEWBORGS LAUNCHED A GLOBAL HOLY WAR AGAINST ZE BLESSED FAZZERLAND

MEIN KAMPF? PUBLISHED IN NINETEEN TVENTY SIX? VAT IZ ZISS ZATCH YOU ARE TALKINGK ABOUT? MORE MEDIA PROPAGANDA FROM ZIONIST LEADERS! SIEG HEIL! SIEG HEIL!


At least they're not a softpedaled, more genuine threat like the BNP, though. They got a backbone, boy

[Abcdxxxx]

Yeah, the Nazis were right to boycott Jewish businesses, is that it? And bombing Hamas, a group nobody with any sense of humanity would ever defend, is what inspired you to post that now? Hilarious.

What exactly would have been wrong had Jews across the world actually got together to fight the "persecution of their co-religionists" in Nazi Germany?

[El Blanco]

Ummm, where is Judea? Last I checked, it hasn't existed for about 2 millennia.

Do you have any sources that aren't white supremacists?

How exactly is boycotting something declaring war on it? Are you telling me Gandhi declared war on England?

Are you going to borrow someone's trsticle's and return to this thread and make a point?

[kahljorn]

Japan started a war with us so I GUESS ITS KIND OF OK IF WE BURN ALL THE JAPS IN OVENS AND GAS CHAMBERS AND TREAT THEM LIKE SHIT AND ENSLAVE THE ONES WHO CAN WORK AND TRY TO WIPE THEIR RACE OR WHATEVER OFF THE PLANET BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY EVEN THE ONES WHO LIVE WITHIN OUR COUNTRY AND MIGHT BE KIND OF NICE TO US CAUSE ALL JAPANESE ARE THE SAME AND HOLD THE SAME BELIEFS ABOUT KILLING AMERICANS

[Dr. Boogie]

The titles of this thread asks a question.

The answer: No.

[Zhukov]

Are you saying that Germany was just defending itself against Jews?

If not, what the hell are you saying?

[Evil Robot]

I have removed my signature

[derrida]

I think what he's actually trying to say is that the international Zionist movement of the time purposely fomented anti-Jewish sentiment in Europe in order to bolster its cause.

This is something you will read on those "Jews Against Zionism" sites.

[Abcdxxxx]

Maybe if you use Judanhate goggles.

The actual article's content mentions Germany baiting Jews with "Hitlers onslaught against Jews" who were "terrorised by Hitlerite anti-semitism", etc. etc.


p.s. Derrida, there is no such thing as a religious Jew against Zionism. One can not separate a belief from a Jewish homeland, from Judaism, it's impossible as it's a core belief.

[Big Papa Goat]

I think what he's actually trying to say is that the international Zionist movement of the time purposely fomented anti-Jewish sentiment in Europe in order to bolster its cause.

This is something you will read on those "Jews Against Zionism" sites.

lol, even anti-semitism* is just another part of the zionist agenda. Jews, is there anything they can't do?

*what's this 'anti-Jewish' business? The only thing anyone really describes as anti-Jewish is people who have some problem with the Jewish religious practices or beliefs. Anti-semitism is having a problem with jews trying to control the world, which is not Jewish religious practice or belief, but it is the problem most people seem to have with them.

[Dimnos]

We should broker a trade with the Jews. We take care of Hamas and they take care of our economy. Win - Win. :lol

[El Blanco]

Japan started a war with us so I GUESS ITS KIND OF OK IF WE BURN ALL THE JAPS IN OVENS AND GAS CHAMBERS AND TREAT THEM LIKE SHIT AND ENSLAVE THE ONES WHO CAN WORK AND TRY TO WIPE THEIR RACE OR WHATEVER OFF THE PLANET BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY EVEN THE ONES WHO LIVE WITHIN OUR COUNTRY AND MIGHT BE KIND OF NICE TO US CAUSE ALL JAPANESE ARE THE SAME AND HOLD THE SAME BELIEFS ABOUT KILLING AMERICANS


geggy is a Holocaust denier.

[Tadao]

You would think that a person who believes that they are being lied to all the time wouldn't believe all the propaganda fed to them on the internet. It's a conspiracy from conspiracy theorist.

Omg! Theorist sounds a lot like terrorist!

[Evil Robot]

One day I hope to visit this "Zion" place. Does it have anything to do with scientology? The planet Zion?

[Tadao]

It can't be Jew heaven if they let Bob Marely in.

[executioneer]

i thought zion was where morpheus was from

[Evil Robot]

You are correct, Morpheus Goldstein is Jewish.

[kahljorn]

geggy is a Holocaust denieroh ;/

Geggy what is it you deny about the holocause exactly?

[derrida]

Maybe if you use Judanhate goggles.

The actual article's content mentions Germany baiting Jews with "Hitlers onslaught against Jews" who were "terrorised by Hitlerite anti-semitism", etc. etc.


p.s. Derrida, there is no such thing as a religious Jew against Zionism. One can not separate a belief from a Jewish homeland, from Judaism, it's impossible as it's a core belief.

We don't disagree on your first point, but that doesn't invalidate the argument, which I'm not arguing for or against, just trying to clarify what I think geggy was clumsily trying to express.

As for your second point, I would believe you, but that's the exact inverse of what groups like Naturei Karta etc. say, so you might want to provide links, and I'm pretty sure that Orthodox Jews qualify as "the religious kind," so on the face of it it seems like a silly assertion.

[derrida]

lol, even anti-semitism* is just another part of the zionist agenda. Jews, is there anything they can't do?

*what's this 'anti-Jewish' business? The only thing anyone really describes as anti-Jewish is people who have some problem with the Jewish religious practices or beliefs. Anti-semitism is having a problem with jews trying to control the world, which is not Jewish religious practice or belief, but it is the problem most people seem to have with them.

I think most people (including the ADL) use the terms roughly interchangably. You may substitute it for "anti-Semitic" if it pleases you.

[Grislygus]

What I like about all of this is the incredible foresight of the Great Zionist Hive Mind. Out of every country, organization, and individual in the world, only THEY saw that the potential that a sudden political upheaval in Germany would lead to the unheard-of genocide of their own people* and be able to take advantage of it and set up a massive goldberg-device-sequence-of-events so that they could become embroiled in a hellish geopolitical conflict for decades. What fucking geniuses. It's almost inhuman. Hell, practically improbable.

*of course, this never occurred. Liberal Jew Media. Unless it suits the conspiracy theorist to suddenly believe that it did happen, but only on a massively smaller scale (once again, Liberal Jew Media, controlled by the Hive Mind) and the Zionists influenced it anyway (even if Hitler was predisposed to the idea, only THEY had the evil necessary to really make it happen). It doesn't matter what you believe right now, you're allowed to change the particulars at a moment's notice if you're losing an argument. After all, you're right.

[Abcdxxxx]

As for your second point, I would believe you, but that's the exact inverse of what groups like Naturei Karta etc. say, so you might want to provide links, and I'm pretty sure that Orthodox Jews qualify as "the religious kind," so on the face of it it seems like a silly assertion.

Naturei Karta are a bunch of nuts who have been denounced by leaders of probably every Jewish Denomination, and sect you can name. Even the Satmars who oppose Israel, believe in the creation of a Jewish State at some point, and are by definition Zionists. All practicing Jews who worship the Torah and study the Talmud share beliefs with the modern movement now called Zionism.

[Big McLargehuge]

In World War II, the JEWS Declared War AGAINST Germany – NOT the other way around, as we have been propagandized to believe! The three main leaders of the allies, U.S. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, (http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-leaders-roosevelt.html) British Prime Minister Winston Churchill (http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-leaders-churchill.html), and the leader of the U.S.S.R., Joseph Stalin (http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-leaders-stalin.html), WERE ALL JEWISH! :lol

[kahljorn]

:lol

man what a curtain of ignorance and illusion we all live behind

[El Blanco]

oh ;/

Geggy what is it you deny about the holocause exactly?

Hope you aren't expecting a straight answer.

Lets see if I can remember the lies he's tried pushing in the past.

1) Lack of Prussian Blue in the supposed gas chambers in the concentration camps means there was no zyklon-b used. So, the Jews there weren't gassed.

2) Most of the people that died weren't intentionally murdered, they died of starvation and disease that was rampant in the camps. I have no idea how that absolves the Nazis of their deaths, but Geggy does.

3) "Only" 1 or 2 million Jews died. Because thats no big deal.

4) The supposed concentration camps weren't really concentration camps

what have I missed, Geggy?

Who am I kidding? He is too much of a pussy to actually come back to a thread he started.

[Big Papa Goat]

The argument made on that jews against zionism website is pretty silly. They're suggesting that the protests of Jews around the world against Hitler's anti-semitic regime were calculated to encourage anti-semitism and thereby 'prove' that Europe is irredeemably anti-semitic, making Zionism the only answer. But Hitler and his regime in Germany were irredeemably anti-semitic, that's what the Jews were protesting against. It's the most ridiculous kind of getting the cart before the horse to think that the angry reaction of Jews to Hitler's regime is what was responsible for the anti-semitic policies of that regime. This kind of argument seems strangely familiar actually. When the Jews do something to defend themselves against their rabidly anti-semitic and genocidal opponents, the genocidal anti-semitism of their opponents is explained by the Jewish reaction to said genocidal intentions. It sounds like circular reasoning, but I guess in a world where the Jews control everything, it does make a certain amount of sense.

[Jeanette X]

Holy shit Geggy, are you that fucking stupid?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judea_Declares_War_on_Germany

[kahljorn]

:lol jeanette that's pretty funny.

but wikipedia is ran by jews of course they would say that

[Kybo Ren]

when a bunch, okay a lot of jews get rounded up and killed during a WAR, it's a HOLOCAUST.

when the Armenians are almost wiped out by the Turks it's only GENOCIDE.

why is an atrocity on jews worse than an atrocity on any other people?

[El Blanco]

Who said it was?

"holocaust" is actually a very precise term. Its like genocide turned into an industry. That, I think, is the most horrific thing about what went on in Europe in the 1940s.

A supposedly civilized, enlightened, Western nation could take the great advances of the Industrial Revolution, and twist them so badly.

[Jeanette X]

when a bunch, okay a lot of jews get rounded up and killed during a WAR, it's a HOLOCAUST.

when the Armenians are almost wiped out by the Turks it's only GENOCIDE.

why is an atrocity on jews worse than an atrocity on any other people?

Erm, the Holocaust WAS a genocide, it is simply a term used for a SPECIFIC genocide.

Just like the Holodomor:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

and the Stolen Generation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generation

and the Trail of Tears:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears

and the Long Walk of the Navajo:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Walk_of_the_Navajo

and the Potawatomi Trail of Death:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potawatomi_Trail_of_Death

But thanks for playing.

[Grislygus]

Instant shutdown on two fronts :lol

[Kybo Ren]

I guess the holocaust has a better pr firm then other atrocities.

[Jeanette X]

I guess the holocaust has a better pr firm then other atrocities.

Maybe you've heard more about it because it was witnessed firsthand by Americans in a country that they invaded in the 20th century?

No, wait, its because TEH EBIL JOOZ run the media. I forgot. :blah

[Emu]

jews and bush are stealing all my water

[Big Papa Goat]

According to the wiki, religious Jews don't particularly like the term holocaust, since it's taken from pagan Greek religious practices, they prefer the Hebrew word for calamity. The word holocaust means something like 'completly burned' in Greek, which may have something to do with why the term is used to describe the genocide against the Jews, given the industrial scale of the killings carried out in ovens and gas chambers in the concentration camps. In any event, the Holocaust is just the particular term for a particular genocide, it's not a way to categorize the genocide against the Jews as having a higher degree of importance. Like Jeanette pointed out, most genocides have particular names as well, any genocide is a significant enough event to warrant being remembered on its own for itself and not as a generic event.

[Tadao]

Oh damn, you just got holocausted!

[Abcdxxxx]

Not exactly. The term derives from Hebrew, to describe ritual burning sacrifices.

[Tadao]

Double holocasted!

[Jeanette X]

Not exactly. The term derives from Hebrew, to describe ritual burning sacrifices.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/holocaust
1200–50; ME < LL holocaustum (Vulgate) < Gk holókauston (Septuagint), neut. of holókaustos burnt whole

Although used in translations from a Hebrew text, it is Greek. Not Hebrew.

Triple holocausted.

[Abcdxxxx]

Like I said, it's derived from Hebrew. It wasn't born out of Greek Paganism yadda yadda. Context is everything. The Hebrew word was Olot which didn't have a direct translation for the King James translation, but that's what they're referencing. There are lots of examples of secular uses of the word long before the Shoah, but it's origins were the appropriation of the Old Testament.

[Jeanette X]

The Olot doesn't sound as weighty as The Holocaust. :\

[Big McLargehuge]

If "The Olot" referred to the systematic slaughtering of millions it probably would.

[Abcdxxxx]

How about Shoah? Holocaust is fine....but like the term anti-semitism, there is a desire to appropriate and disarm Jews from having the ability to articulate a scary climate like what we're seeing in certain parts of the world today.

[Kitsa]

SRSLY JUST DEPOSIT ALL JEWS IN MADAGASCAR KTHX

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan

we like to move it move it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x3W6hutEj8)

[Evil Robot]

I just found out on Survivor Man that locusts are kosher.