Futurama Returns!

[Ant10708]

It is official! :rock

"Comedy Central has made it official, announcing they have picked up the series for an impressive 26 new episodes"

Says 20th Century Fox TV Chairmen Gary Newman and Dana Walden, "When we brought back Family Guy several years ago, everyone said that it was a once-in-a-lifetime thing - that canceled series stay canceled and cannot be revived. But Futurama was another series that fans simply demanded we bring back, and we couldn't have been happier when Matt and David agreed that there were many more stories yet to tell."

I wonder if Fox executives realize how horribly they manage shows. Well hopfully the new episodes of futurama don't turn out to be shit like the new episodes of family guy but then again I shouldn't even compare the creative forces of the two shows.

[Tadao]

YAY!

[Pub Lover]

Boo!

[RaNkeri]

I wonder if the episodes will actually be funny

[Dimnos]

From what I hear, its all original writers and actors. Should be good.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but the new episodes are just the movies being chopped up into episodes with some minor added content.

:(

[Tadao]

I want links.

[ZeldaQueen]

Good news everyone!

I don't care what's in 'em, I'm just glad they'll be back! I freaking love that series!

[Dimnos]

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but the new episodes are just the movies being chopped up into episodes with some minor added content.

:(

But they have already played the movies in episode format while they are claiming these to be "new".

[Ant10708]

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but the new episodes are just the movies being chopped up into episodes with some minor added content.

:( No, these are new episodes. Comedy Central was using the movies that were chopped up into episode format as basically a test of futurama profitability. Because they received favorable ratings we now get real brand new episodes

http://tv.ign.com/articles/993/993144p1.html
there's a link for all you doubting thomas out there

[Dimnos]

Want me to concudify him? Like some sort of dispatcherator?

[LordSappington]

Was that what that weird-ass episode was about, with the executive powder? I thought that was an old episode.

[robo_rob]

And now I dance a happy dance.

[Kilgore Cod]

Best cartoon of the last 20 years. I can't wait.

[Esuohlim]

Nerds

[Dimnos]

I'm gonna go build my own theme park! With blackjack and hookers! In fact, forget the park!

[FistfulOAwesome]

Hell to the Yeah! Futurama is by far my favorite T.V. series. I'm glad to know that my purchase of the DVD movies was not in vain.

That is harsh but it's true. Aside from ITWGY the movies had problems.

BBS is pretty good but it doesn't take the chance to follow-up on the series finale (F/L reset to zero, again.), the Paradox-Correcting Time Code is lazy (Something doesn't make sense by even Time Travel standards? Whoosh, Paradox Correcting), and the changes to continuity are not appreciated (I think it'd be difficult to find a Futurama Fan who likes the changes done to Fry's Past).

BWABB is strange. It has very little middle ground in terms of the Fandom's opinion on it. For most it's either freaking hilarious or it's an Out-Of-Character mess that trades away witty writing and years or character development for shock/juvenile sex humor (me).

Bender's Game is also strange. Seemingly the entire Fandom feels Meh about it. Mostly because of how disappointing the Fantasy bit (second half) of the movie is. Instead of being the promised skewering of Fantasy it ends up being a surpsingly boring send-off of LOTR. I have no idea why the writers decided to focus on that series since the last movie was realeased in 2003 so any jokes about it would be considered dated (which they were).

On the other hand I'd like to protect the film by stating that it isn't an OOC mess like BWABB is (aside from an extreme exxageration of Leela's anger) and that the first half is pretty good and would have worked as two twenty-minute episodes (which they kind of already work as).

Nothing truly needs to be said about ITWGY. Everybody loves this movie (including I-Mockery's own Dr. Boogie: http://www.i-mockery.com/weeklies/weekly.php?type=movies&id=81) and for good reason. It's intelligent, it doesn't bog itself down with "fan-service" moments, it's the most complete, it's funnier than the others, the characters are finally back to a level of development they had in the series (BBS came close), and F/L's relationship is handled a manner more mature than any series episode before it (closest to ITWGY is 412: The Sting). This one is an absolute A+.

Still, I'm glad to have the series back in production. I hope that the writers won't reset the ending of ITWGY. F/L have been linked together for years and after the ending there is no denying that they are finally together. To reset that would show an incredible disrespect for fans and a lack of confidence in the writers.

I also would like a 1 or 2-part episode that explains how the crew got back to Earth after they went through the wormhole. While they could explain it in the first few minutes it would feel like a cop-out and the wormhole has too much potential not to use.

Other than that, closer continuity, F/L's relationship touched upon, and some multi-part episodes would be appreciated.

So, on a final note: YEEEEESSSSSS!!!

[Tadao]

OMG, that is a lot of letters. I hope they are all needed.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

But they have already played the movies in episode format while they are claiming these to be "new".

No, these are new episodes. Comedy Central was using the movies that were chopped up into episode format as basically a test of futurama profitability. Because they received favorable ratings we now get real brand new episodes

http://tv.ign.com/articles/993/993144p1.html
there's a link for all you doubting thomas out there

Astonishing

[Angryhydralisk]

I'm happy to hear it. Now if only King of the Hill can be brought back in the same way...

[LordSappington]

I still love king of the Hill.
The best part about that show is that our whole neighborhood is pretty much exactly like the show. :(

[Ant10708]

How did Fry's past change in the first dvd movie?

[Dimnos]

I'm happy to hear it. Now if only King of the Hill can be brought back in the same way...


http://myspace-812.vo.llnwd.net/00555/21/88/555648812_m.jpg
"Hey Hank's Wife, if you have an opinion to share, why don't you go in the kitchen and put it in a bunt cake."


That show died with Cotton. :tear

[FistfulOAwesome]

Ant10708: Originally Fry completely disappeared after his freezing on the stroke of midnight on January 1, 2000. However, thanks to the time-code a version of his spent 12 years in the past (the one who ended up becoming Lars). He reconnected with his family and his dog (Seymore).

As a fan I don't appreciate this change, especially in an episode that few would consider better than series classics The Luck of the Fryrish and Jurassic Bark. I know that it seems like I'm saying it was better when Fry's family was in pain over the loss of him (they never found out what happened to him), but to a fan it was.

Those two episodes were brilliantly written and allowed us to see that Fry had a life in the past, and not necesarilly a bad one. It also did a pretty good job of showing how people (and a dog) deal with the disappearance of a loved one. To say that it all now didn't happen and give us the "happy" ending that the writers so ballsingly skirted in the original episodes is a strange choice to say the least. It doesn't offer the growth his family originally experienced. Sure, Yancy still loves his brother (even in the separate timeline he names his son Philip (though I don't know why) and Seymore is still fiercely loyal but now those characters didn't have to have those traits tested in the canon.

The worst part is that the change might have been okay had they focused a little bit more on Fry's reconnection with his family. Instead we get a glossed over montage. Worst yet, Seymore is left alone, again, when Fry goes on his crazy search for Leelu (admitingly I like that story). Worse than that (I lied), when Fry finds out he's Lars he runs off to freeze himself without any thought towards Seymore (who he would have known would be at the front) or how his family would cope with the "death" of their son (even more surprising to them would be that a body was never discovered).

I do realize that BBS didn't make it so I can't watch those episodes again but it does lessen their impact (if you accept it into canon). How sad can you be for Seymore if his entire storyline is now non-canon? How sad can you be for Yancy when he now had a chance to reconnect with Fry?

It's like how before BBS, The Devils Hands Are Idol Playthings was the series finale. Fans assumed for many years that Fry and Leela got together after the Opera. Once BBS happened and didn't reference at all it became simply another F/L episode, subject to the mighty power of the reset button so should the writers command. It's still a good episode but it doesn't carry the same emotional impact it did before. I feel the same way about the two mentioned series episodes after BBS (or at least I would if I didn't consider anything relating to Fry's family in that episode non-canon).

So, yeah. I don't appreciate those changes. I will say that if the writers manage to do something brilliant with the changed timeline that wouldn't have been possible in the original timeline I will eat my words. Until then...

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Didn't Lars die at the end anyway making your point null and void?

[FistfulOAwesome]

10,000 Volt Ghost: How? Lars dieing doesn't mean that the events of the changed timeline didn't happen.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

10,000 Volt Ghost: How? Lars dieing doesn't mean that the events of the changed timeline didn't happen.

Sure it does

[Pub Lover]

A wizard did it.

[FistfulOAwesome]

Once more, How? The movie made no reference that a paradox copy dieing resets their actions. Would you kindly explain to me what you mean?

[Dimnos]

Once more, How? The movie made no reference that a paradox copy dieing resets their actions. Would you kindly explain to me what you mean?

It's a cartoon that is notorious for not taking itself very seriosly.

[Tadao]

Fanboys are gonna ruin it for me.

[FistfulOAwesome]

Dimnos: Actually, Co-Creator David X. Cohen has said that on the more serious stories they write them in the hopes that past the jokes there is genuinely good sci-fi underneath.

Also, on the not taking itself seriously: The show has plenty of dramatic elements and stories (the Fry's Past episodes, Fry and Leela's romance, The Mighty One).

I'm saying I'm worried for future Fry's Past episodes (DXC has stated that there is more to reveal) because of the timeline change that occured in BBS. Even the movie's main writer (Ken Keeler (who happens to have never written a bad episode) thinks that they should have done it 2nd or 3rd so they could have written the timeline better (mentioned in the commentary).

Tadao: Don't worry about it. I am truly excited for the series return. But on the off chance that one of the writers is lurking on any board that I post on I don't want to give the impression that the movies were great (except for ITWGY which is awesome to the max). They screwed up and I don't want that carrying over to a new series.

Any Futurama > No Futurama is a statement I don't agree with. Futurama got me for being a show with great mix of high and low-brow humor, well-written characters, and (occasionally) surprisingly touching plots. If the show isn't going to come back as great as ITWGY or better than I'd rather not have it back at all.

[Tadao]

I just want more sexy scenes.

http://www.claudiapuyo.com.ar/zapp.jpg

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Once more, How? The movie made no reference that a paradox copy dieing resets their actions. Would you kindly explain to me what you mean?

They weren't fry's actions....they were Lars'.......

Read sections 2 - 9: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_travel and when you're done let me know.

It's like if I went through my life and then a clone of me went back in time to do other stuff I didn't and then met up with me in the future only now he had a beard. It still wouldn't change the things I did or didn't do.

[Pub Lover]

The aforementioned wizard was partial to multiverse theory. :magic

[Ant10708]

how did bender's big score end? i thought it ended with it basically saying everything was a big paradox

[Tadao]

I think it ended with a shit ton of benders.

From Wiki:

The Bender duplicates explode and cause a tear in the fabric of space.

[Ant10708]

which basically solves any continuity issues because nothing ever happened or the universe would explode

I do get what 10,000 is saying thou. I thought it was weird to have any form of fry reunite with his family and Seymour. the original Seymour episode is one of the best futurama episodes. Its always best not to get to crazy with time travel.

[Dimnos]

I think it ended with a shit ton of benders.

From Wiki:

The Bender duplicates explode and cause a tear in the fabric of space.

Right. Because this is a serious show with serious sci-fi elements and ideas. None of it is a joke. >:

[Tadao]

:serioushomofutureproblems

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

:serioushomofutureproblems


ahhhhh. You got to it before I got a chance to put that....stupid work.

[FistfulOAwesome]

10,000 Volt Ghost: BBS goes out of it's way to canonize it's own events. Bender is shown being the leader of the squadron of U.F.O.'s that destroyed the Medieval Theme Park and Seymore is fast-fossilized by Bender's Gun's aftershock. What was a joke and a mystery in the original series are now fully canonized plot threads.

As for nothing changing because of this, Seymore is all the proof I need. In the original episode he appeared in, he spent all New Years Day looking for Fry and then spent his life waiting for him to return. But since Fry 2 showed up he had no reason to go out to search for Fry.

Yancy originally named his son Philip since he missed Fry so much. Now we have no idea why he named his son after Fry (I guess maybe they got closer together. I would think Yancy Sr. would disapprove of not naming a first born Yancy unless they had the original situation of Fry's disappearance).

As for some alternate version of Time-Travel explaning Fry and Lars lives being separate: I don't see where you are going with this. If it's Grandfather Paradox then all the events are canon (which they are) because they were all supposed to happen.

If it's alternate universe then how would that make the events non-canon? It would be like the new Star Trek movie- Events are different but because we are in an alternate universe. The original universe still exists with it's events and this second universe exists with its events. So in other words it still all happened at least in the universe we are witnessing.

And on your example: What, do you mean if a paradox-copy of you went back in time and lived your life differently? Well, I guess you would still remember all the events the old way but that doesn't mean you wouldn't live in a universe with changed events. Semi-example: Back to the Future. Marty changed his family's lives yet he remembers everything from his timeline but knows none of theirs. So Fry 2 did change the timeline. I've already wrote two prominent examples above of what he changed.

I'm not trying to stifle the return of Futurama here. I'm simply stating that I hope that the writers think a little more on how to handle the characters and their stories than they did in the first three movies. The movies/the new series had/has a lot to live up and disregarding the continuity and characterization of the original run is not the way to do it.

[Pub Lover]

I hope the new series follows the events of Universe 1.

[FistfulOAwesome]

Yeah. That head wound does look pretty stylish on the Professor.

[Tadao]

Kif, I have made it with a woman. Inform the men.

[Tadao]

http://slurmed.com/fanfics/coldangel_1/blame-it-to-the-brain-part-2/image004.jpg

[Tadao]

http://slurmed.com/fanart/con_bruke/001_leela-pic.jpg

[FistfulOAwesome]

Tadao: The guy who drew that (the one with Seymore in it) posts frequently on a Futurama Message Board I'm on: peelified.com

His name is coldangel_1 and he has a book coming out: http://www.peelified.com/Futurama-Forum-6/Topic-16798-0-You_can_preorder_a_copy_o.html

[Tadao]

Yeah, that's were I stole it from I think. I hate that style of fan art. :(

[Esuohlim]

Nerds

I posted this a page too soon :rolleyes

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

10,000 Volt Ghost: BBS goes out of it's way to canonize it's own events. Bender is shown being the leader of the squadron of U.F.O.'s that destroyed the Medieval Theme Park and Seymore is fast-fossilized by Bender's Gun's aftershock. What was a joke and a mystery in the original series are now fully canonized plot threads.

As for nothing changing because of this, Seymore is all the proof I need. In the original episode he appeared in, he spent all New Years Day looking for Fry and then spent his life waiting for him to return. But since Fry 2 showed up he had no reason to go out to search for Fry.

Yancy originally named his son Philip since he missed Fry so much. Now we have no idea why he named his son after Fry (I guess maybe they got closer together. I would think Yancy Sr. would disapprove of not naming a first born Yancy unless they had the original situation of Fry's disappearance).

As for some alternate version of Time-Travel explaning Fry and Lars lives being separate: I don't see where you are going with this. If it's Grandfather Paradox then all the events are canon (which they are) because they were all supposed to happen.

If it's alternate universe then how would that make the events non-canon? It would be like the new Star Trek movie- Events are different but because we are in an alternate universe. The original universe still exists with it's events and this second universe exists with its events. So in other words it still all happened at least in the universe we are witnessing.

And on your example: What, do you mean if a paradox-copy of you went back in time and lived your life differently? Well, I guess you would still remember all the events the old way but that doesn't mean you wouldn't live in a universe with changed events. Semi-example: Back to the Future. Marty changed his family's lives yet he remembers everything from his timeline but knows none of theirs. So Fry 2 did change the timeline. I've already wrote two prominent examples above of what he changed.

I'm not trying to stifle the return of Futurama here. I'm simply stating that I hope that the writers think a little more on how to handle the characters and their stories than they did in the first three movies. The movies/the new series had/has a lot to live up and disregarding the continuity and characterization of the original run is not the way to do it.


Where the fuck is PAC-MAN?

http://slurmed.com/fanart/con_bruke/001_leela-pic.jpg

Is that some Clement handiwork? Although there's no penis involved so it's doubtful.

[Tadao]

It is amazing is what it is.

[FistfulOAwesome]

Where the fuck is PAC-MAN?He was lost in a maze and he never made it out. (seriously, I don't get this reference)

Originally Posted by Esuohlim http://www.i-mockery.com/forum/images/mockery/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.i-mockery.com/forum/showthread.php?p=632711#post632711)
NerdI posted this a page too soon :rolleyes:

Fixed!

[Esuohlim]

I was sure put in my place :rolleyes

Hey FistfulOAwesome, can I axe you something :rolleyes

[FistfulOAwesome]

No one is stopping you.

[kahljorn]

I AM >:

IF YOU ASK A SINgLE QUEStION, SIR, I WILL BLUDGEON YE

[Sam]

NERDS WHY DON'T YOU GO BARRICADE YOUR HOUSE UP FOR X-MAS

[kahljorn]

IM GONNA MAKE MY OWN LUNAR LANDER WITH BLACKJACK AND HOOKERS. IN FACT, FORGET THE LUNAR LANDER AND THE BLACKJACK.

:)

[Sam]

I AM GONNA GO, FORGET THE BLACKJACKS AND LUNAR HOOKERS

[Kilgore Cod]

There, now no one will be able to say I don't own John Larroquette's spine.

[executioneer]

THIS THREAD IS BOGUS

[FELDMAN<3]

ugh! adult swim dont show it anymore.

[Tadao]

OMG Noway! When did that happpen?

[elx]

Date of Birth:September 3, 1996Age:12

someone should ban it before it ventures around and becomes corrupted :(

[stevetothepast]

I finally got around to watching wild green yonder. It wasn't funny, it wasn't even trying.

[ZeldaQueen]

I finally got around to watching wild green yonder. It wasn't funny, it wasn't even trying.
AUGH, I was meaning to record that last night. F*()&!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:

[Colonel Flagg]

ugh! adult swim dont show it anymore.

Paging Liquidstatik. Danny to the Chat Room, STAT!

THIS THREAD IS BOGUS

Agreed. :blah