Copy Protection

[Fathom Zero]

Haha, this guy got boned.

http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?t=95030

[Sam]

:lol

[stevetothepast]

It's not a bug in the game's code, it's a bug in your moral code.haha

[Dr. Boogie]

Posted about a problem with his pirate version on the official forum, and he didn't even bother to check if the game was even out yet.

Such failure.

[Microshock]

It'll be broken before the game even comes out. GTA4 tried something like this as well

[Tadao]

All this will only matter if they fine the guy.

[darkvare]

they'll find a way to get around this but as for now the guy is toasted also the guy that told him that it was anti piracy told him where to attack

[Fathom Zero]

The thing is that it's a leaked copy. Potentially unfinished and they can still add more stuff like that to it.

[executioneer]

haha what a goddamn idiot that guy is, asking on their official forums

[executioneer]

on a side note, though: since they still haven't learned that putting securom and limiting the number of installs in a pc game is a FUCKING STUPID ASS IDEA, they deserve to get their game pirated

[Fathom Zero]

I hate it, and to a certain extent, Steam is bad about it. The fact that you have to start Steam online in order to run it offline is bullshit.

It's why I love Good Ol' Games.

[executioneer]

you could always pay for it and THEN pirate it

best of both worlds

[Fathom Zero]

I do that with music and PSP games.

I don't wanna rip that shit myself.

[Dr. Boogie]

The thing I don't like about Steam, apart from forcing you to download patches that can break your game, is that the licensing agreement states that if the Steam program is ever shut down, the company is under no obligation to offer fixes so that you can play their games offline.

Steam may not exactly be on its way out right now, but if it ever does, and you want to play a Steam game, you're SOL. Your only option will be to wait and see if the pirates will come up with a way around it, or otherwise just download a new warez copy.

[Microshock]

I've said that before. Digital content is not the future for retail games. Full retail games are so stupid to buy digitally, you can't sell it,you can't trade it, you can't do anything with it really.

It's good for smaller games like 1943 or games you'll play all the time like TF2, COD4, CSS. But stuff like Steam should never ever take over

[Tadao]

The thing I don't like about Steam, apart from forcing you to download patches that can break your game, is that the licensing agreement states that if the Steam program is ever shut down, the company is under no obligation to offer fixes so that you can play their games offline.

Steam may not exactly be on its way out right now, but if it ever does, and you want to play a Steam game, you're SOL. Your only option will be to wait and see if the pirates will come up with a way around it, or otherwise just download a new warez copy.

I've had tons of problems with not bieng to play COD : W@W because steam won't figure out how to give us the patch till 1 and 1/2 a week after. There is a way though, if you go into your reg, you can change (Digital Distribution) to something else, I forget, maybe something other than steam. Then you can apply the patch and download the newest nocd crack for that patch. I know it sucks, but fuck man, whatchagonnado other than never buy from them again ever, which is what I decided to do.

[Fathom Zero]

I buy shit from them when it's on sale and maybe some little one-off indie games that I couldn't give a fuck about after I play them once, anyway.

[Tadao]

Yeah, that's Docs point I think. They have made it too unfriendly to the point were no one wants to buy a new more pricey game from them any more.

[captain516]

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/090809-pirate-halo-3-odst-go.html

[Tadao]

I read that before and it instantly reminded me of Quake 3. How do they know who has the legit account? I hope it's not because games are registered with a series of unobtainable numbers and letters. That didn't work for Id when people made keygens and a ton of people who actually bought the game ould no longer play it. It became a real big mess.

[Microshock]

Killing Floor is a pile of garbage, and you know what I can do with it now? Nothing. It sits there, I can't even "hide" it off the games list.

I know impulse is better, and that they're trying to find a way to let you sell games. If they do that, and let you trade it around, then wow that'd be great

[Tadao]

I keep hearing whispers in here. As if someone is trying to be heard, but they died a long time ago. Spoooooooky

[Chojin]

Steam is great. My preference generally goes like this:

1. Steam
2. Piracy
3. Retail

Steam is just way too convenient and fast, and retail is too cumbersome and up its own ass with anti-piracy shit. I also really appreciate that I can just delete games to save HD space or reformat and just get them again in a few minutes later. Or that I can go to a friend's house and let him demo a game on my account. Or share an account with a few friends for single-player games. OH NO I HAVE TO START STEAM TO PLAY GAMES I MEAN I ALSO RUN ABOUT 1,000 OTHER SERVICES BUT STEAM HAS THE DECENCY TO SHOW UP IN MY SYS TRAY AND THAT MAKES MY GAY SELF ANGRY

GUYS STEAM IS USING 40 MEGS OF RAM RIGHT NOW
THAT IS 40 MEGS I WILL NEVER GET BACK
OUT OF MY 4,000
I MEAN MY IM CLIENT USES TWICE AS MUCH, BUT I AM ON THE INTERNET AND I HAVE OBNOXIOUS UNINFORMED OPINIONS FOR YOU TO HEAR

WHY CAN'T I SELL MY DOWNLOADED GAMES THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS
LET ME GET MY RIGHTFUL $2.50 + SHIPPING YOU NAGGERS

[Tadao]

I think you pay for a faster internet connection than I do. To reinstall COD W@W has taken the better part of a day from steam.

[Chojin]

yeah, i can't recommend steam for ISDN users

DIRECTOR'S CUT: or just burn the appropriate steamapps folder to a DVD if you'd rather have a disc

OR: do the same thing over your network and install about 10 copies of a game at once without queering around with dvd drives

[Tadao]

I have DSL, I just happen to be downloading a constant stream of Brazilian fart porn at the same time.

[MattJack]

Killing Floor is a pile of garbage, and you know what I can do with it now? Nothing. It sits there, I can't even "hide" it off the games list.

You're right. How could such a pile of garbage be fun at all with your friends?

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If you got that butt hurt over a game that cost $14.99 for weeks then I don't know what to tell you man.

[MattJack]

PS PROTIPZ:

Open Steam, click the My games tab, then simply right click the Killing Floor icon, and finally choose DELETE LOCAL CONTENT.

:lol :lol :lol :lol

[whoreable]

Steam is great. My preference generally goes like this:

1. Steam
2. Piracy
3. Retail


I have to say as much as i hated the idea of steam when hl2 came out, it is pretty outstanding. Just having the ability to download any of the games tied to your account at any time is great. No more cds or product keys to worry about. In fact it would be fantastic to have it for software, movies and music too.

but i still prefer not paying for something over paying for it.

[Dr. Boogie]

I don't really sell any of the games I own, but it's nice being able to buy used copies when the original isn't on sale.

If they would implement a way for people to sell their licenses for games for however much they wanted to charge, that would be a step in the right direction.


But what I'd really like is for them to make it so that you don't have to check in with Steam/automatically download new patches when you're playing a game offline. As I've said before, not every new patch is a step in the right direction.

[Chojin]

But what I'd really like is for them to make it so that you don't have to check in with Steam/automatically download new patches when you're playing a game offline. As I've said before, not every new patch is a step in the right direction.

That's on the developers, though, not Steam. With any multiplayer game, everyone needs to be using the latest version.

For non-multiplayer games there should probably be an opt-out button, but who really gives a shit?

[Fathom Zero]

The onus is on the developer to make the patch work right, otherwise, if it's Valve's fault, Steam updates itself regularly enough anyway to be annoying to me.

[Dr. Boogie]

That's on the developers, though, not Steam. With any multiplayer game, everyone needs to be using the latest version.

For non-multiplayer games there should probably be an opt-out button, but who really gives a shit?

I do because the opt-out hasn't worked for me in the past, and also because when I say that a patch Steam forces you to download can break a game, I'm speaking from personal experience.

[Microshock]

I played Killing Floor with all my friends, and we shortly stopped playing after that. I don't think it's a good game, plus it looks outdated

[Fathom Zero]

It uses whatever Unreal Engine that 2004 used, so I could only assume it is dated.

[DougClayton4231]

Is Killing Floor really that bad? I never tried it due to the fact that it looked like a game from 2005. My only issue with steam is when games magically become "unavailable" at random. I want to play HL2 goddamn it!

[Microshock]

I bought it because they had some kind of weld feature so you can weld doors to keep the zombies out, but it's such a stupid part of the game.

[Tadao]

spoooooooooooooooooooooooooooky

[Microshock]

Oh, you're still on that shit. Yeah I see everyone's noticing that you're trying to ignore me

[Fathom Zero]

I downloaded a copy of Borderlands and applied the crack to the Securom BS, playing it for about twenty minutes just now.

I found that my computer runs it very nicely, better than Left 4 Dead 2 as a matter of fact. Given that there is no demo and recommended specs count for nothing when judging whether or not a game can run, I would not be buying the game otherwise.

Because I downloaded an illicit copy and got to actually see how well it runs, I am now buying the game. :hat