Super Street Fighter 4

[TIFunkalicious]

http://shoryuken.com/?p=1575

I'm BIG into fighting games, they're all I play nowadays. And this announcement has me SUPER excited

I have a wealth of other information and links available if any of you want them. I can also answer questions about sf4 and the new title because I've been following it rather religiously :rock

[Chojin]

i like SF4 and I want to get better at it, but there isn't really a guide on strategy that I can find online

c'est la vie

[TIFunkalicious]

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=175846
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=188461
http://forums.shoryuken.com/forumdisplay.php?f=241

The first two are universal nub threads, the last shows all the character forums. Don't just register and start asking questions and starting threads though (outside of the first link, you can post the simplest questions you want there because that's what it's for). SF4 brought alot of new people to the forums and the oldies are a little salty that the same questions get brought up everywhere. Those threads have helped, but theres still redundant clutter.

I can personally answer questions that might go under the radar over there or elicit mean responses too.

[Fathom Zero]

Forums? With rules?

F that S.

[stevetothepast]

Do you have to own SF4 to be able to run SSF4, like is it an expansion pack on a stand-alone disc, or can you just buy SSF4, like snes SSF2 style.

[Fathom Zero]

Standalone, and it'll probably be $40 or thereabout.

[bigtimecow]

fathom, i think TIFunkalicious is supposed to answer any questions. this is his thread

[TIFunkalicious]

Whatever, he's right. It's a disk release, the stated reason is because the changes to gameplay are too deep to release as a DLC. But it will be at a reduced game price.

[Dimnos]

Whatever, he's right. It's a disk release, the stated reason is because the changes to gameplay are too deep to release as a DLC. But it will be at a reduced game price.


Changes to gameplay?

[Fathom Zero]

The reason is that there are a lot of changes, comparable to the differences between the "regular" and Super versions of the previous games.

[MLE]

That's deep, man.

[Fathom Zero]

I know, G.

[Dimnos]

I never understood the difference between regular and super. I thought they just added a couple new characters and added the word SUPER to it so the kids would spend more money.

[stevetothepast]

it's deeper than that.

think of it like a pool that you pay 5 bucks to get in, than an extra 2 bucks to get into the deep end.

[Dimnos]

But what? What changes? Do you get extra manga style action lines when you punch them? What?

[Chojin]

Either way, probably best it's its own game. This way tournaments don't have to connect their boxes online to get characters an stuff.

[Dimnos]

After doing a little digging. Key work being little. Wiki was the only place that had an answer for me.

In addition to refining and balancing the existing character roster from the previous installments, Super Street Fighter II also introduced four new characters

So it balanced existing characters? Couldnt this be done with a patch? I understand that at the time 2 was around you couldnt patch arcade cabinets. Im talking here and now with 4. If the difference between regular and super are the same as it was with 2.

[Chojin]

I understand that at the time 2 was around you couldnt patch arcade cabinets. Im talking here and now with 4. If the difference between regular and super are the same as it was with 2.

You could always patch arcade cabinets, especially the JAMMA ones. Which SF2 used.

[Dimnos]

Oh yeah? Didnt know that. So why not just patch em then?

[Fathom Zero]

Dunno how big of an update it would be. I couldn't comment on that part.

But I think "TOURNAMENT EDITIONS" are good, and exactly that. I see a market for Super SFIV.

[Chojin]

Oh yeah? Didnt know that. So why not just patch em then?

Pretty sure there were update kits for SSF2. Same as Ultimate MK3.

[Dimnos]

Updates for SSF2 or updates that turned SF2 into SSF2? My real question is why make SSF4 its own game instead of just a patch for SF4? Especially with how easy modern consoles connect to the internet.

[Dimnos]

Assuming balancing characters and the addition of a couple new ones is the only difference.

[stevetothepast]

seeing as I hadn't purchased SF4, I think I will get SSF4 when it comes out.

[Dimnos]

Im missing the obvious answer... This way they can charge more and thus make more money. :(

[Fathom Zero]

Not to say that there wouldn't be enough new shit to make it easy or hard to justify.

It's all middle-ground.

[TIFunkalicious]

It is 8-10 new characters and they are reworking parts of the games engine, DLC would have been too huge because most Xbox owners don't splurge for the bigger hard drive.

It's still an improvement. ALL NINE installments of SF2 were what, 75$? And those games were so close together that they released an anniversary edition that lets you play all SF2 chars from 5 of the games (essentially like 70 characters, where every group of 5 have only slight differences). I don't think that's going to be possible because they're making real changes to this game.

[Dimnos]

8-10 new characters? Damn thats a lot. Ok I see why it gets its own release. :lol

[stevetothepast]

ALL NINE installments of SF2 were what, 75$?

NINE?

Street Fighter 2 : World Warrior
Super Street Fighter 2
Street Fighter 2 turbo

I know that genesis was called championship edition if you are including that, and SF Alpha was on snes if your counting that for some reason it is still only 5. What am I missing?:confused:

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

<LI class="toclevel-2 tocsection-3">2.1 Street Fighter II — The World Warrior (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_fighter_2#Street_Fighter_II.C2.A0.E2.80.94_ The_World_Warrior) <LI class="toclevel-2 tocsection-4">2.2 Street Fighter II′ - Champion Edition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_fighter_2#Street_Fighter_II.E2.80.B2_-_Champion_Edition) <LI class="toclevel-2 tocsection-5">2.3 Street Fighter II′ - Hyper Fighting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_fighter_2#Street_Fighter_II.E2.80.B2_-_Hyper_Fighting) <LI class="toclevel-2 tocsection-6">2.4 Super Street Fighter II — The New Challengers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_fighter_2#Super_Street_Fighter_II.C2.A0.E2. 80.94_The_New_Challengers) <LI class="toclevel-2 tocsection-7">2.5 Super Street Fighter II Turbo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_fighter_2#Super_Street_Fighter_II_Turbo) <LI class="toclevel-2 tocsection-8">2.6 Hyper Street Fighter II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_fighter_2#Hyper_Street_Fighter_II)

[stevetothepast]

but he said 75$ a piece, those are the versions of arcade cabinets. I'M CALLING SHENANIGANS.

[TIFunkalicious]

OK FINE, I GUESSED AND WAS HOPING NO ONE WOULD CALL ME OUT

but really, exaggerations aside, it's still a better deal

[Durrsomething]

Looks nice. Didn't get SF4 yet, but will buy this instead. I hope Q and Skullomania make appearences

And when are we getting Darkstalkers 4?

[Phoenix Gamma]

Darkstalkers was just a tech demo. If Morrigan's boobs weren't so big, Capcom would have forgotten about that game years ago.

[darkvare]

but she appears in tatsunoko vs capcom

[Phoenix Gamma]

But no one else from Darkstalkers shows up. I think the last original game that someone besides Morrigan showed up in was MvC2, which starred nobodies like Sonson and Capt. Commando. I'm sure someone will correct me, but I probably won't care by then.

Anyways, I'm a bit curious as to why Hawk and DeeJay are in this. I know they're really pushing SFII nostalgia, but there are so many other characters worth including. I know everyone's saying they'll add more, but it's getting pretty packed already, and I want some Dudley, Makoto, and Ibuki.

Dudley vs. Balrog is my dream matchup.

[Durrsomething]

Then why did Darkstalkers get a US-made cartoon back in the mid 90's along with Megaman and Street Fighter, both of witch (Hoho) got revamps(Hehe) this and last year?

[Phoenix Gamma]

Because every game had a cartoon in the 90's. Was there a Bubsy cartoon? I bet there was. I guess Bubsy needs a new game.

[Dimnos]

Um... Did you ever watch that cartoon? Because it was shit.

[Phoenix Gamma]

I was being facetious. Though that's hilarious that Bubsy actually got a cartoon.

[Dimnos]

I was more talking to Durr about the gay Darkstalkers cartoon.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

There were two different Darkstalkers animated weren't there? I remember Donovan Bane being good in it. Then in the other Felicia hung out with some young kid....which was lame.

[Durrsomething]

SAw some of it in Youtube poop footage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KxjrO5_dms

What I don't understand is why didn't Capcom actually tell the guys behind the cartoons what the stories and characters backrounds? It would have at least have been marginally better. (And if they would hire artists who can actually emulate Japanese artwork and not 90's Marvel comics. Seriously, they made the girls ugly as a racoons' corpse.

[Dimnos]

Backgrounds? Yeah that would have saved that crap storm. :rolleyes

[Nick]

Bubsy cartoon here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HFPa-M6Ssk

[Phoenix Gamma]

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-features-super-street/60456

Holy shit. This game's gonna be sick. I can't wait to try out those new Ultras. Cody and Juri look awesome, too.

[darkvare]

i love cammy's new bison costume

[Sam]

MECH-ZANGIEF :eek

Also Dhalsim's head-butt Ultra :lol

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

I wasn't sure if Zangief had a Colossus costume all of a sudden.

[Zomboid]

He has a Mike Hagar one, which is pretty cool. I love how the trailer mainly showcases the costumes. BECAUSE COSTUMES ARE WHAT I ENJOY MOST ABOUT GAMING.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

SAM beat the hell out of me as HAGAR. Then he went to clean up the MAD GEAR GANG.

edit: SAM beat me with ZAN-HAGAR

[darkvare]

i hope that ign makes another video of all the characters costumes i'm buying it anyways i already sold my copy of the original street fighter 4 i only sold the game and kept the extra goodies of the collectors edition :)

[Angryhydralisk]

So Zangief has a Haggar costume? I guess that'll please the five guys who wanted Haggar so badly in a fighting game besides Saturday Night Slam Masters.