The occasional clove cigarette is just TOO GOOD

[Chojin]

:oao

http://www.clovecigarettesmart.com/catalog/images/djblackslimzsmall.jpg

Soooo, these are now illegal to sell in the US after that new FDA regulation of the tobacco industry.

AT LEAST THE CHILDREN ARE SAFE, AMIRITE

in this thread, I will let you all know how I plan to illegally import these things as I explore the possibilities.

alternatively, you may also share any information or methods on the subject.

I am listening to online narrated slides relating to business, which is why I am writing in this highly gay manner.

If you would like to know more, please refer to the case studies in your text.

[Kitsa]

I was working in freezing rain one night, going on no sleep, and some guy told me I needed to smoke a blunt and have some clove tea.

I didn't even know what a blunt was at the time.

Anyway, how did cloves get mixed up in all this smoking stuff?

[Chojin]

Basically,

The concept is that flavored cigarettes are gateways into normal cigarettes and are convincing teens to pick up smoking

The reality is the Marlboro greased some palms and got a government regulation on their best competition, since the bill doesn't affect shit like menthol ciggies

Shit sux, brah

[Tadao]

Are they chocolate flavored?

[Fathom Zero]

they're black-people flavoured

[Chojin]

they taste like christmas

[Fathom Zero]

Every time you breathe it in, can you taste the squalor?

[Kitsa]

I know in Walmart there was/is/has been a veritable candystand of flavored cigars available behind the register. I found the colored packages fascinating but even as a kid wouldn't have thought of smoking them.

[Fathom Zero]

Every time I smell smoke anyway, I get hungry. I don't know what flavouring smoke does.

[Tadao]

If it wasn't for smoking, I'd never go outside.

[MattJack]

I feel the same way about masturbation, Tadao.

[Tadao]

There is nothing like nutting on a tree.

[Chojin]

hey fathom take your purely theoretical understanding of pretty much fucking everything elsewhere if you please

go live a little and then you may come back with an opinion.

[Fathom Zero]

Okay.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

When I heard about this the first thing that came to my mind was "I bet they didn't ban menthol cigarettes though."

I don't even smoke and I'm outraged.

[Guitar Woman]

I only bought one pack of these things and I smoked the entire thing in about 4 hours.

Due to the film of tar coating my mouth for the following 3 days, I could not taste anything.

[Babs]

Taste chewing on a christmas tree with root beer on the inside!

[robo_rob]

Thats pretty shitty, I mean.. kids are going to want to smoke regardless of the possible fruity flavors. At least leave the adults whom smoke the freedom to choose what particular cigarette they want to smoke. I'm pretty sure the government would prefer to get the tax money than risk a kid smoking... considering that same kids gonna sneak a smoke no matter what.

[Tadao]

Lol, let's not pretend that they aren't targeting kids.

[captain516]

http://www.justthinktwice.com/factfiction/

Prohibition did work. Alcohol consumption was reduced by almost 60% and incidents of liver cirrhosis and deaths from this disease dropped dramatically
ORLY?

[robo_rob]

The kids still just going to sneak a cigarette out of some adults pack regardless of what color the package is or flavor.

[Tadao]

I think the point is that MORE kids will smoke because of the flavor and packaging. But hey, fuck the kids right? It's not our problem that they aren't used to advertising tricks by the age of 12.

[captain516]

tadao, since when did you give a shit?

[Tadao]

As a smoker, I hate seeing irresponsible smokers. They make me look like a dick for smoking.

[robo_rob]

I know what your saying Tadao and I do agree that the flavors and colors is an attempt to draw them in which should be discouraged.

However, was the colors or flavors what drew you to smoking? When you was a kid, did Joe Camel really sell smoking to you?

I just find it shitty that a legal aged smoker has to forgo his/her own preference, especially when the kids have always been an issue to deal with.

[LordSappington]

There's this 15 year-old whore who lives in my neighborhood who I constantly see at raves and at the park; she's been smoking menthols compulsively even since BEFORE they banned cloves. I consider it safe to say this bill probably hasn't affected shit.
Also, it's pretty bad when a 15 year-old girl has the same cough as a 60 year-old waitress at a truck stop.

[Tadao]

I know what your saying Tadao and I do agree that the flavors and colors is an attempt to draw them in which should be discouraged.

However, was the colors or flavors what drew you to smoking? When you was a kid, did Joe Camel really sell smoking to you?

I just find it shitty that a legal aged smoker has to forgo his/her own preference, especially when the kids have always been an issue to deal with.

I actually knew the dangers of smoking. I watched my grandpa die because of it. The reason I started smoking was pretty morbid. I wanted to make sure I never grew too old. Getting addicted to cigarettes would help me.

At some point you have to weigh what is more important. Other peoples pleasure or other peoples health. If the fucking tabbacoo industry wern't going after kids (and yes they are) then we wouldn't even have this discussion right now. I hold big tobacco to blame for all my smoking woes.

[robo_rob]

Yeah, I watched my Grandmother die from lung cancer when I was in the 6th grade. It was a hard dose of reality.

Of course the tobacco industry is going after kids, after all they need customers when the old ones die or quit. However, has any method to discourage smoking ever really helped on a large scale? Cigarettes are what 5$ (give or take) a pack, there is warnings all over them, not allowed to advertise on TV anymore, smoking is only allowed in sanctioned areas, every person in the world telling the dangers of smoking, etc, etc.

The only real way to prevent children from smoking is making it illegal (and even then, there will be a few who slip through). And I seriously doubt that will ever happen. The tobacco industry (with lots of money to bribe) and the big evil guv'ment (I mean, they get a lot of tax money from it) would most likely look over the welfare of others for their own gain.

In the end, stopping one way of reaching the children is great, but in the end... who's going to stop them when it's legal for them to smoke?

[Tadao]

Like I said, the industry has made it really hard on smokers because of their shady practices. I couldn't even buy my favorite smokes at one point, all because some person won a lawsuit against the industry because they got cancer. Even though they knew it was a risk. Well Drum Tobacco pulled all their product and I had to find something else to smoke. But hey, I got over it. I'm sure Chojin will do just fine. I'm cool with this decision. And yes, I do think it will actually make a small dent in underage smoking. Even though I know my cigarette butt won't polute the earth much, I still won't leave it in the street, I'll carry it to a can. Same thing going on here for me and the kids. It wont change a lot, but a small positive change means a lot to me nowadays.

[robo_rob]

Yeah dude, I totally understand small positive changes.

In the end, if it does help, it's worth it.

[Tadao]

Now, let's talk about the NRA

[robo_rob]

As somebody who once drunkenly pulled out a gun mode Megatron in a crowded food court, somebody please get guns under control :P

[darkvare]

they sell strawberry flavored ones at the school cafeteria i don't smoke so i dunno if they taste good
thesse
http://i.b5z.net/i/u/1543008/i/Feeling_Fresa.jpg

[kahljorn]

i stopped reading after cancer, but i hate cloves and i dont think most people could smoke a lot of those and flavored cigarettes are alright i guess ;/

[Reebi Phoebe]

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs270.snc1/9727_297906130614_741275614_9134301_5897697_n.jpg
My mind's been warped...so confused.

[Colonel Flagg]

I remember that old chaw commercial with Walt Garrison (Just a peeeanch in-between yer cheek 'n' gum) describing how great it was to enjoy all the nicotine, without the ugliness of "smoking". The end was a listing of their brands: 'Skoal,' 'Copenhagen' and "fer you young'uns jest startin' out, mild 'Happy Days' mint."

Yeah, they never targeted children. That would have been wrong.

[Reebi Phoebe]

I tried smoking cigarettes for about 2 weeks once. I stopped after my second pack cuz they were so goddamn expensive. If life is so poopy, shouldn't I be investing my money in something that'll actually make me enjoy life a little more...y'know...instead of investing in an untimely death. But then again, I am still young and youthful, so no wonder I still have a positive outlook on life.

[Dimnos]

But then again, I am still young and youthful, so no wonder I still have a positive outlook on life.

Says the guy with a steaming pile for an avatar.

[Colonel Flagg]

Says the guy with a steaming pile for an avatar.

And the wonderfully optimistic sig. :confused

[Reebi Phoebe]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dimnos http://www.i-mockery.com/forum/images/mockery/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.i-mockery.com/forum/showthread.php?p=652131#post652131)
Says the guy with a steaming pile for an avatar.

And the wonderfully optimistic sig. :confused:


Damn...you guys are right. Now i'm feeling all pessimistic again.
Where are my ciggs?

[ChrisGlass]

Why ban flavored cigarettes and not flavored alcoholic drinks? It's the same reasoning, kids like it more.

[Tadao]

I agree, wine coolers are tools of a pedo.

[Sam]

Don't take away wine coolers, that is Tadao's number one tool of the trade.

[Tadao]

I prefer GHB

[Sam]

WELL WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO HIDE THE GHB IN IF YOU DON'T HAVE WINE COOLERS?

A FUCKING HI-C ORANGE? >:

[Tadao]

Whatever teen boys are drinking nowadays.

[Chojin]

i tore through my last pack of cloves last night :<

however my throat will probably thank me by tomorrow

waking up with my mouth tasting like greased dick isn't too pleasant, either

[robo_rob]

Ban wine coolers, fine. But please save MD 20 20, Cisco, and Boones Farm.

I need those.

[Kitsa]

Don't forget the Manischewitz and Mogen David for pure sugar content. Those go down so easily you're dropping by your secondy-fifth glass.

[DevilWearsPrada]

I don't know about all this tl;dr business, but I can't resist the wonderful gimmick that is a camel crush cigarette

[darkvare]

ain't clove an spice my mom puts them on fruits to keep thosse pesky flies away

[Chojin]

i have placed a grand order today

they had a fee for buying under a certain amount, so i also had to buy a lot to avoid it :<

putting my student loan money to good use!

[kahljorn]

people always said that cloves have fiberglass in them :(

[Tadao]

Yeah, but Chojin does push up next to insulation.

[Chojin]

i ordered a carton of menthol cloves for maximum fiberglass intake

[Kitsa]

I cannot STAND the smell of menthols.

[Chojin]

it's amazing you can stand at all, brittlebones mcbrakey

[Kitsa]

was I one of the people making fun of your weightlifting pictures? No.

[ScaryRedMonster]

Basically,

The concept is that flavored cigarettes are gateways into normal cigarettes and are convincing teens to pick up smoking

The reality is the Marlboro greased some palms and got a government regulation on their best competition, since the bill doesn't affect shit like menthol ciggies

Shit sux, brah

Well, they are the most popular brand at my highschool

[Chojin]

was I one of the people making fun of your weightlifting pictures? No.

i kid because i love

[Guitar Woman]

I know this thread is about cloves but I am going to treat it like a smoking thread and brag about my cigar, because it was good.

Well, uh, my cigar was good. Romeo y Julieta Churchill, lasted about an hour and sort of tasted like how sun-baked leather in old pickup trucks smell. That might sound nasty, but for me, it's one of those weird, soothing smells that you don't get to sample enough. Like fresh cut grass or a charcoal grill warming up. And it had a lovely spectrum of other subtle flavors that my palate is not sophisticated enough to dissect. I don't usually smoke cigars, so I don't really have a basis for comparison, and more accomplished snobs might think it's a bad smoke, but I liked it.

[Chojin]

i am sorry kitsa i was out of line hopefully we can put this behind us i don't want our children to suffer

[Otto]

I like my cigarettes as strong as possible, which is why I buy a pack of Belomorkanal any time I see them.

[kahljorn]

i never liked menthols when i was a kid :(

[Sam]

One time I bought this 12 year old black girl menthol cigarettes. :(

[Dimnos]

One time I bought this 12 year old black girl.
:(

[Chojin]

http://www.i-mockery.com/chojin/black_kid_puter_desk.jpg

[kgp4death]

Black kids desk damn.....actually blacks are the only thing I smoke. I bought some the other day, they are not illegal they are considered a cigar because the black paper is actually a leaf.

[Tadao]

Hm, I figured you for a camel guy.

[kgp4death]

No I like the sweet flavor of Blacks. Camels are ok but only for pets and for the ocational :blowme

[MLE]

The cigar version of blacks sucks ass. They only made it because of this legislation. Now go die like you said you would.

[kahljorn]

"Belomorkanal"


is that like a finnish rimjob or something? :(

[Pentegarn]

Sounds like the problem here with kids and smoking is brand association. They see bright colors in advertising and they see the same bright colors on the boxes they come in and they make the link in their mind.

I would think rather than ban all these different flavor Cigs they should just come up with strict packaging guidelines. Make all the cig boxes plain white with a small logo on the bottom right corner of the box so that they eliminate brand association.

I never smoked myself but it seems to me the government has declared a silent war against smokers. In less than a decade they have been pushed outside, had brands outlawed, and been treated like second class citizens. I am in favor of some places being smoke free, but now they are banning it in places where smokers primarily gather, such as bars and bowling alleys. Even with the second hand smoke outside you will still get exposed to it as you come from outside to in the building, so it is pointless to pretend it matters. Seems a bit silly to me. Either ban cigarettes or don't. This half-assed pseudo-banning of some cigarettes in some places is just transparent bullshit by politicians.

[Kitsa]

I saw a shirt yesterday that said, "Politicians should dress like NASCAR drivers...at least then we'd know who their sponsors are."

[Zhukov]

Haha ^ that's actually pretty funny. I think.


I also think that Bhutan is the only country to have banned smoking.

[Guitar Woman]

Everyone should smoke, that way we all die of first-hand smoke before second-hand smoke becomes a problem.

And we do it looking like cool motherfuckers.

[kgp4death]

it's called evolution everyone should smoke so that people that can't handle it die. That way the remaining race gets stronger Because, i'll give you one guess what the atmosphere is going to be like in like 50-250 years thats right just like smoking a cigarette. So might as well create a race that can handle all kinds of "crappy ass air"

[Tadao]

yeah, cause that worked before

[Chojin]

Purbalingga
2009-10-10
18:23
Posting/Collection

JakartaSoekarnoHatta
2009-10-11
14:48
Departure from outward OE

AMERICA US
2009-10-17
13:10
Arrival at inward OE

AMERICA US
2009-10-17
13:11
Held by Customs

wuh oh

[Chojin]

according to google, if it updates in a few days with "released by customs" i'm fine, if it updates with "pending customs exam", the package is officially fuct

[Guitar Woman]

u going 2 jayul

[Chojin]

http://www.dudesday4life.com/resources/BigBossman005.jpg

YOU'RE DOIN' HAAAAAARD

TIIIIIIMMMEEE

[Dimnos]

Man you gotta love government regulations on the not so free market economy. :\

[Chojin]

at least the children are safe

[Dimnos]

Fuck the children. Their parents should be keeping them safe and teaching them how to keep themselves safe. Not having the government do it for them. Pussies.

[Sam]

Chojin are you going to jail? :(

[SGFAZ1]

Clove Cigarettes are not for everyone.
For example, Jurgen from Sam & MAx Season 2; Night of the Raving Dead. Couldn't stand those Garlic Clove ciggies.

[stevetothepast]

no we don't find it funny that there is no porn allowed.

your signature is stupid.

[kgp4death]

no we don't find it funny that there is no porn allowed.

your signature is stupid.

Well technically it is allowed in the art section it just need to be artistic porn with a NSFW in the title of the post.....I like artistic porn, especially the porn part.

[Chojin]

Chojin are you going to jail? :(

i doubt it. my father's ordered worse shit from overseas. in the worst-case scenario, customs has held his package and then sent him a letter saying "hay we have this package here. why don't you come over and discuss it with us if you want it back?"

[DevilWearsPrada]

I can attest to this, it's happened to a couple of people I know when they've attempted to buy marijuana seeds :\

[Dimnos]

As long as he is not ordering mass quantities for retail purposes he should be good.

[kgp4death]

Well I don't think they can do anything to you. I mean think about it, I could just send one of my many many enemies some obviously suspicious mail filled will all kinds of interesting illegal things. Come on I would be able to get anyone arrested at any time. (ie i don't think they can arrest you - well with out raiding and finding other things first)

[Tadao]

Fuck the children. Their parents should be keeping them safe and teaching them how to keep themselves safe. Not having the government do it for them. Pussies.

If the government would let us beat up our kids for smoking, well then maybe we wouldn't be doing all this.

[Guitar Woman]

My new cigarette holder is a butthead to use

It basically has a little pinhole tube that goes right up to the filter, which means I have to draw harder than I usually do to get a decent mouthful, and it leaves this really nasty-looking spot on the butt that's black with concentrated tar. The problem could be with what I'm smoking, since American Spirits have notoriously thick, shite filters, but I refuse to switch brands because shit is delicious. Cutting a bit of the filter off seems to work but I don't want to have to carry scissors around with me everywhere, or offer people without holders stubby cigarettes.

If the clove smuggling doesn't pan out, by the way, I'd recommend developing a taste for Spirit Periques, the ones that come in a black box. It's kind of a spicy tobacco that they press-age in whiskey barrels. They're not as sweet as cloves, but are infinitely more satisfying.

[Dimnos]

If the government would let us beat up our kids for smoking, well then maybe we wouldn't be doing all this.

Amen to that brother.

What kind of limp dick uses a cigarette holder?

[stevetothepast]

http://spiddlement.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/hunter_thompson.jpg

[Dimnos]

We back in the 70s now?

[Guitar Woman]

Amen to that brother.

What kind of limp dick uses a cigarette holder?

A suave limp dick.

Also people who don't like getting smoke up their nostrils and need to keep their hands free. That's the practical part.

NOT FOR FAPPING, YOU CHUCKLEFUCKS

[Dimnos]

:lol

[SGFAZ1]

no we don't find it funny that there is no porn allowed.

your signature is stupid.

I'm talking about the fact that despite that, we have these smilies.
:boob :orgasm :wank :blowme

[executioneer]

those are very small pictures and easily overlooked by over-shoulder lookers whereas actual large-size pornographic images can get you into serious trouble

wherein lies your confusion

[Chojin]

oh, so my shit arrived last week

hellz yeah