I'm getting freaked out. Someone help. [Archive]

kgp4death

Oct 16th, 2009, 08:30 PM

It's probably from all the ice melting. I recommend to go further north to find a better piece of ice to rest on. Then just sleep it off, as well as get a good massage if you think it is just a muscular thing. Advil is good for muscular healing so try that out if it isn't gone in like a week I would probably go see a walrus doctor to see what he thinks or you could just let a seal eat you and then all your problems will be solved.

Zhukov

Oct 16th, 2009, 08:41 PM

That reminds me, I have to arrange an appointment to get checked for skin cancer. Ta.

Evil Robot

Oct 16th, 2009, 11:29 PM

Human bot fly

executioneer

Oct 16th, 2009, 11:54 PM

you're going to be a mommy

Wiffles

Oct 17th, 2009, 12:45 AM

were you bitten by something? I have woken up with sore bites before, I think its either a spider or a centipede. Nasty tropical insects >.<

10,000 Volt Ghost

Oct 17th, 2009, 09:09 AM

were you bitten by something? I have woken up with sore bites before, I think its either a spider or a centipede. Nasty tropical insects >.<

or a Tadao.

Zhukov

Oct 17th, 2009, 09:56 AM

What type of bugs do you get in Hawaii Wiffles?

Wiffles

Oct 17th, 2009, 10:14 AM

There are big hunting spiders they grow as big as a child's hand, big centipedes which can grow to 10 inches. They dont really appear on the city, but around the more outer fringes suburbs. You can find them outside mostly but they can get in the house sometimes. X_X

or a Tadao.

Tadao doesnt bite, he just licks you O.O

Pentegarn

Oct 17th, 2009, 10:48 AM

Remember that House episode where the guy making video games was asking the internet to diagnose him from his computer and offered a 25k bounty for the correct diagnosis?

There are big hunting spiders they grow as big as a child's hand, big centipedes which can grow to 10 inches. They dont really appear on the city, but around the more outer fringes suburbs. You can find them outside mostly but they can get in the house sometimes. X_X

I am not a fan of centipedes unless they are safely behind glass. Then I am fine with them

Kitsa

Oct 17th, 2009, 01:03 PM

House sucks and why doesn't he drop the phony American accent and talk like a normal person. :/

Shrubfest

Oct 18th, 2009, 05:38 AM

Because Americans think the British are the bad guys, and that wouldn't be the right idea at all...

Zhukov

Oct 18th, 2009, 05:41 AM

What kind of horrid American life do they live where anything less than every man woman and child is raised on Blackadder?

Kitsa

Oct 18th, 2009, 11:45 AM

The fake American accent just completely grates on me. I hate it as much as when American actors speak in fake British accents (have you noticed that any American-origin historical or "foreign-set" movies always seem to feature everyone in a British accent?).

My mom won't watch British television because she says she can't understand anything they're saying. But she works for an Australian company, deals with Australians all day and doesn't have a problem there, which leaves me hugely confused.

Fathom Zero

Oct 18th, 2009, 02:26 PM

What kind of horrid American life do they live where anything less than every man woman and child is raised on Blackadder?

I was born in Cincinnati and raised on Blackadder. :posh

Hangie

Oct 18th, 2009, 02:50 PM

The Leader

Oct 18th, 2009, 04:27 PM

Hangie, no. Just no.

Babs

Oct 18th, 2009, 05:31 PM

go eat a fucking crumpet you boston piece of shit

Kitsa

Oct 18th, 2009, 05:32 PM

Hangie, I was indifferent to you before but now I just think you're an idiot.

george

Oct 18th, 2009, 09:28 PM

thats bloody idiot kista, you phony eurotrash...uhh british word for bitch.

MLE

Oct 18th, 2009, 10:59 PM

slag.

Zhukov

Oct 18th, 2009, 11:12 PM

Minger.

Kitsa

Oct 19th, 2009, 08:35 AM

My family doesn't use any British slang at all mainly due to the fact that there are other countries in Europe to be from.

ZeldaQueen

Oct 19th, 2009, 09:28 AM

Colonel Flagg

Oct 19th, 2009, 04:25 PM

Thus vanishes my desire to visit Hawaii...

Just as well - it's very expensive. Even with the overlarge arachnids.

Tadao

Oct 20th, 2009, 12:05 AM

Did this person die while waiting for a good answer? Sorry I was away.

Take 1 dead rat, rub it in dirt and leaves, lick it, then place it in front of the stairs and call me in he morning.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii285/tadao_mockery/WebJunk/MeowseMD.jpg

BobDole

Oct 20th, 2009, 01:35 AM

That fucking cat is pissing me off.

Dimnos

Oct 20th, 2009, 02:12 PM

What kind of horrid American life do they live where anything less than every man woman and child is raised on Blackadder?

I feel like this is incomplete. :\

Should it be?

What kind of horrid American life do they live where anything less than every man woman and child is raised on Blackadder?

Or should something more be added to to the end?

What kind of horrid American life do they live where anything less than every man woman and child is raised on Blackadder is rubbish?

Or am I just being crazy?

Dimnos

Oct 20th, 2009, 02:14 PM

Oh and House owns. His "American" accent is just fine. Im pretty sure there was a thread somewhere talking about how there are so many different accents here in America, how do you define what is correct?

Tadao

Oct 20th, 2009, 02:29 PM

I HATE YOU CAUSE YOU DON'T DO WHAT I WANT

Dimnos

Oct 20th, 2009, 02:34 PM

DAMN. WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME. I TRY. I REALLY TRY. :tear

Tadao

Oct 20th, 2009, 03:03 PM

I was talking about House :tear

Dimnos

Oct 20th, 2009, 03:04 PM

Oh so we are good then? Well this is awkward... :\

Tadao

Oct 20th, 2009, 03:36 PM

Let's cuddle

Kitsa

Oct 20th, 2009, 05:27 PM

I mean I don't understand why House has to be American. I don't understand how it's integral to the character. There's nothing wrong with the way Hugh Laurie sounds naturally. As a matter of fact, I remember some TV show in the UK in which he played a very similar character (poorly socialized genius doctor) and he did just fine with his own accent there. It all seems unnecessary to me.

Tadao

Oct 20th, 2009, 05:41 PM

I can understand why, and it is very ugly and not at all nice.
Like someone pointed out before, (most of) America is not ready to like foreigners right now.

Kitsa

Oct 20th, 2009, 07:11 PM

Okay, but Tim Roth stars in "Lie to Me" immediately following the whole "House" thing and he kept his natural accent.

King Hadas

Oct 20th, 2009, 07:53 PM

You have to remember that Hugh Laurie auditioned for the part. It called for an American accent so Hugh delivered one, if he'd done it with a British accent he probably wouldn't of gotten the part because that's not what they were looking for.

I'd ask what's wrong with his accent but I bet it's one of those things that if you can't hear it then it can't be explained.

Colonel Flagg

Oct 21st, 2009, 02:11 PM

Jonathan Harris, of "Dr. Smith" fame was an American actor (born, I believe in Brooklyn) and worked very hard to lose the "Nooyahk" accent he grew up with. Apparently later in his career he was asked about his "British" upbringing, when he responded "I'm not British, just affected." :)

Dimnos

Oct 21st, 2009, 02:36 PM

Okay, but Tim Roth stars in "Lie to Me" immediately following the whole "House" thing and he kept his natural accent.

Yeah but thats Tim fucking Roth.

http://application.denofgeek.com/images/m/englishpsychopathsinmovies/001_Archibald_Cunningham.jpg

Dimnos

Oct 21st, 2009, 02:37 PM

He will rape you.

Tadao

Oct 21st, 2009, 02:43 PM

He'll rapier you.

Dimnos

Oct 21st, 2009, 02:45 PM

That too.

elx

Oct 21st, 2009, 02:46 PM

cHJRSKvbiXA

Dimnos

Oct 21st, 2009, 02:56 PM

We are on Tim Roth now Elx. Come on now, your smarter than this. :(

elx

Oct 21st, 2009, 03:09 PM

da de de de de de dee dee doooo da de da dooooo do do do do da deeeeeeeeeeee
apparently i am not, as i don't even know who that is, sorry, carry on.

Dimnos

Oct 21st, 2009, 03:10 PM

No pet name calling? :(

elx

Oct 21st, 2009, 03:16 PM

o, right-o. scuttle off lobster limbs >:

Dimnos

Oct 21st, 2009, 03:20 PM

Thats more like it. :)

MLE

Oct 21st, 2009, 10:27 PM

Didn't Hugh Laurie also play the piano on the season premiere of House this season?

Tadao

Oct 21st, 2009, 10:49 PM

Zhukov

Oct 22nd, 2009, 07:57 AM

Bravo.

Kitsa

Oct 22nd, 2009, 08:55 AM

I know that he can play piano. I don't really watch House so I don't know if he did or not. I caught an episode earlier this season where a woman took a bone marrow aspiration with a slight nose-wrinkle, chatted through the whole thing, and I called almighty bullshit on that show.

Colonel Flagg

Oct 22nd, 2009, 09:57 AM

But if they showed how it really was (ungodly painful and worthy of general anaesthesia) that wouldn't make for "must-see TV". :\

Kitsa

Oct 22nd, 2009, 10:18 AM

Dimnos

Oct 22nd, 2009, 11:06 AM

Yes because non-documentary shows must still be 100% factual. :posh

Kitsa

Oct 22nd, 2009, 04:27 PM

I don't give a shit about fiction. I give a shit that someone, somewhere, will be watching that and have their own bone marrow aspiration coming up, and that they will think that it's no big deal because it didn't look like one on TV. And then they're going to go in for the procedure and face the betrayal of a lifetime.

If you haven't had one, don't bother opining on that aspect. Hopefully you never have to find out firsthand.

If they're going to play doctor on those shows, they need to have some semblance of accuracy. Suspension of disbelief and whatnot. Leukemia doesn't make you fart cotton candy, brain bleeds don't give you the ability to fly and bone marrow aspirations are not painless little procedures. That's what I have a problem with. If you're going to make a show about genius medical experts who do not occupy some parallel dimension where the above claims are true, make it somewhat accurate.

Tadao

Oct 22nd, 2009, 04:31 PM

LET ME ENJOY MY SHOW KITSA

Kitsa

Oct 22nd, 2009, 04:31 PM

FUCK YOUR SHOW, TADAO

Dimnos

Oct 22nd, 2009, 04:47 PM

If they are equating a show on TV to reality they have bigger problems. :\

Kitsa

Oct 22nd, 2009, 04:50 PM

There's a sort of desperation and a wild grab for information that accompanies a new cancer diagnosis, Dimnos.

Dimnos

Oct 22nd, 2009, 04:53 PM

So you look for answers in a fictional TV show? Silly.

Kitsa

Oct 22nd, 2009, 05:01 PM

No, you absolutely don't. But you're in an altered state of mind, in a very cold and dark emotional place, and you absorb anything that seems like it might be relevant to your situation. You're making grabs for any reassurance you can get that everything might be okay after all.

And if you're watching TV to try and take your mind off things, or focus on something that isn't having Hell Week at all the doctors' offices experiencing bad things and hearing even worse things, and you're watching House, and even subliminally you gave it any credence at all (again, suspension of disbelief), I can see how it could happen. You could know that you had a procedure called a bone marrow aspiration scheduled for Thursday, and here's a woman on TV having one, and it doesn't look that bad at all. And they do research for these shows, right, fact-check or something? Because it all sounds good, they use the right words. Not everyone has a medical education.

So then you walk in completely unprepared and end up curled in a ball, crying and retching in pain as they numb your skin and half an inch of fat before drilling into your hip bone with a saw-tipped metal straw. I've had some of the most brutal cancer-related procedures you can have, up to and including a botched biopsy where I literally choked on my own blood, and I will say that a bone marrow aspiration not done under general has to be far and above the most brutal medical procedure any modern-day cancer patient could have. It's more like Nazi torture.

Dr. Boogie

Oct 22nd, 2009, 05:06 PM

So is it better to depict it as nightmarish agony? So that the patient who catches that episode goes into the procedure in the grip of pants-shitting terror?

Dimnos

Oct 22nd, 2009, 05:12 PM

Perhaps my faith in common since is, as usual, misplaced. I dont think any amount of fictional TV or even first hand accounts would lead me to believe having a needle big enough and strong enough to puncture my bone to withdraw marrow would feel anything less then excruciating.

Kitsa

Oct 22nd, 2009, 05:15 PM

I think that people should deserve to know the truth. In my opinion, they should have shown the person getting some sort of sedation. Even valium/versed would be something.

I tried to candycoat it once irl, with my mom when she had her first cancer. I tried telling her it wasn't that bad, even though I knew firsthand that it was, and the whole procedure was a nightmare. I don't even like thinking about it. I decided then and there that I was never going to do that to anyone again.

European doctors usually do the procedure under general now, and progressive-minded oncologists will at least give you some sort of IV sedation. What I wish I could get across to anyone who has one coming up is that they need to demand something, that it's not something you go into cold. If you're traumatized and they have to club you over the head to get you back in the door, what good does that do anyone?

Kitsa

Oct 22nd, 2009, 05:17 PM

Dimnos- people don't know, going into it, that it's a straw-sized needle with a saw on the end. You don't see that until it's drilling into your hip. And then they want you to roll over so they can do the other side.

People want to assume that the pain management will be effective and it just isn't. But surely you go into blood tests assuming that no one is going to stab your spleen, or x-rays assuming no one is going to give you a lethal dose of radiation. People make assumptions about the intentions of medical professionals because they have to, to get by.

Colonel Flagg

Oct 22nd, 2009, 05:20 PM

Some semblance of reality would be nice, and shouldn't be too hard to write into the script. I remember shows like ER (while watered down and very heavy on the doctors humping nurses aspect) had actual surgeons as consultants on the staff to make sure that they got most of the medical stuff at least half-right. I'm not sure if House has the same resources, but they should do a better job.

I wonder if any of this is helping rabid-penguin? :|

Dimnos

Oct 22nd, 2009, 05:23 PM

What I wish I could get across to anyone who has one coming up is that they need to demand something, that it's not something you go into cold.

Fuck yeah. I cant believe they do it without giving you something. This is probably my 2nd most feared medical procedure, right after a spinal tap. :x If they didnt plan on giving me something before they would have to just to get me back there.

Tadao

Oct 22nd, 2009, 05:35 PM

House is a show about talking.

Dimnos

Oct 22nd, 2009, 05:39 PM

It used to be a show about popping pills. But nooooo they had to go and clean that up. :rolleyes

Kitsa

Oct 22nd, 2009, 05:41 PM

Spinal taps I've had aplenty, and they're not that bad. In my opinion, the worst part of a spinal tap is the vulnerability. There's a bad moment of anxiety as your back is swabbed and you feel the paper shield being affixed. There's a slight stinging sensation from a superficial anesthetic shot, the old "bee sting". The actual tap doesn't hurt, but you can feel the sensation of the needle in your intervertebral space and that's definitely unpleasant and oogy. That's the second part of the procedure I dislike.

The third comes about half an hour to two hours afterward, when you may or may not get an excruciating headache. Mine have always been in my forehead and you feel like if you could just shove your head into something hard enough, the pain might be relieved. Sometimes it makes you puke. But it eventually goes away.

Having had the unpleasant honor of comparing the two, I can tell you that it's not nearly as big a thing to fear as a bone marrow aspiration.

I've had enough big bad tests to know the warning signs that things will get ugly.

1) If they tell you that you might feel "discomfort", it will be unpleasant. If they tell you that it'll be "unpleasant", it'll hurt. If they tell you it'll "hurt", it will hurt like hell.

2) The more people in the room that are necessary for the procedure, the worse it will be for the patient. If there are non-nurse techs present, they know something about holding you down that you haven't seen coming.

3) Wrapped surgical bundles fresh from the autoclave are never a good sign if you think you're going in for an easy little test.

4) A big audience of physicians is a bad sign. You're essentially having something done where a physician, who reckons his or her time as infinitely valuable, is stopping everything else to say, "I gotta see this."

5) If the diagnostic has to be carried out by no less a personage than a physician, that's a bad sign.

6) If there's a crash cart suspiciously wheeled into the room or fresh suction tubing has been unsheathed and prepped, that's a bad sign.

I'd go on at length with horror stories, but I think I'd end up sounding like one of those cartoon guys at the fishermen's bar with peg legs and arms.

Colonel Flagg: Exactly.

Dimnos

Oct 22nd, 2009, 05:52 PM

I think my fear of a spinal tap is more to do with simply the idea of them shoving a needle in my spine. :chatter

As far as the headache. I had an uncle who had to have a spinal tap done once. I dont remember what for, I was really young. At the time his best friends dad as an anesthesiologist. I think I remember he said his friends dad did something to put liquid back in his spine? To re-float something? That made the headache go away. Know anything about that?

Dimnos

Oct 22nd, 2009, 05:54 PM

6) If there's a crash cart suspiciously wheeled into the room or fresh suction tubing has been unsheathed and prepped, that's a bad sign.

:lol

I know its not funny but...

Kitsa

Oct 22nd, 2009, 06:04 PM

The actual needle-in-the-spine part is probably not what you might imagine it to be. The sensation of something in that intervertebral space is just a sensation of something feeling very, very wrong. Something you'd be protecting yourself against if you had a chance, on an instinctive level. I had a spinal procedure go bad last year and one of my nerve roots got skewered...pretty much lost the use of my right leg that entire summer. I am in a very bad place with spinal needles right now and had to have heavy IV sedation before I even got near a spinal block for a surgery this past June.

They might do some sort of backwash thing, I'm not sure. I've never heard of it being done to me. The headache seems to be a hit or miss thing. I know that I've had extra stuff in my cerebrospinal fluid, various anesthetics and some myelogram dye that's still stuck in there, but it never benefited me any.

And the suction tubing I actually ended up being thankful for. They were experimenting with a biopsy, never did it before (this was a major big-city teaching hospital with a stellar reputation) and were literally just making stabs through my tongue with a needle that was about 4" long. They ended up stabbing through to my throat and, as I mentioned before, I choked on my own blood. So I guess it was good the suction was there, although it was terrifying and painful and I was shaking so badly I couldn't walk out of my own accord.

Colonel Flagg

Oct 23rd, 2009, 05:28 AM

Fuck yeah. I cant believe they do it without giving you something. This is probably my 2nd most feared medical procedure, right after a spinal tap. :x If they didnt plan on giving me something before they would have to just to get me back there.

Actually, a spinal tap is not too bad, just so long as you get someone who knows what they're doing. I've had a couple. The bone marrow procedure, however, sounds like it's right out of the Spanish Inquisition. If I'm ever to get one, I'm demanding Michael Jackson-worthy pharmaceuticals.

Colonel Flagg

Oct 23rd, 2009, 05:31 AM

Jesus, Kitsa, you're an effing medical laboratory. :eek

Colonel Flagg

Oct 23rd, 2009, 05:43 AM

The third [part of a spinal tap procedure that I dislike] comes about half an hour to two hours afterward, when you may or may not get an excruciating headache. Mine have always been in my forehead and you feel like if you could just shove your head into something hard enough, the pain might be relieved. Sometimes it makes you puke. But it eventually goes away.

Yeah, this is a bitch. I get a headache just thinking about it. :x

A big audience of physicians is a bad sign. You're essentially having something done where a physician, who reckons his or her time as infinitely valuable, is stopping everything else to say, "I gotta see this."

I sustained a tramatic injury at 13; my somewhat disjoint memory of the incident includes a stay in a darkened examining room where it seemed that as many as 7 physicians alternately poked, prodded and otherwise examined my injuries. This was "back in the day" where trauma surgery was in its infancy, and they tried to get me stabilized prior to surgery. Bad idea. :( My guess was that these were interns who had never before seen injuries of this magnitude on a live patient. :\

Nowadays, if the same injury was sustained, they'd just do an MRI or a sonogram and wheel me into the OR stat. As it was, I'm very lucky that I made it out semi-intact, mostly none the worse for wear.

Kitsa

Oct 23rd, 2009, 11:13 AM

Jesus, Kitsa, you're an effing medical laboratory. :eek

Pretty much :( I more or less grew up in a hospital and have never known life without medical weirdness and anyone in a white coat wanting a poke at me. I could go positive and say it's life experience or go negative and say my life sucks, depends on what mood I'm in. :lol

I'm glad that you've recovered from your injury. Sometimes I'm amazed when people survive, given the timeframe when the illness/injury happened. It was even more brutal back then than it is now. :hypno

Colonel Flagg

Oct 23rd, 2009, 11:36 AM

Yes, it was "brutal back then". Way to make me realize yet again how old I am. :tear

Seriously, during the entire recovery process, I was pretty nonchalant, figuring people were visiting me making such a big fuss, but that Jeez, it wasn't that big a deal, get over it! Only now that I have some perspective do I realize that it was about 98% certain that I would die on the table. :eek

On the flip side, it has given me a little more appreciation of life in general. I don't let too much crap bother me anymore.

You must be pretty far along now - things still moving along as expected?

Kitsa

Oct 23rd, 2009, 11:43 AM

If it makes you feel any better, I was also referring to my 1970s-era experimental radiation therapy as "brutal back then". I can't watch The Exorcist now because of the 70s medical equipment they show for her neuro tests- I get flashbacks. I'm 32 and I've felt like I've been in my late 40s since I was about 14 years old.

My great-grandfather was radiated for lymphoma in the 60s and I'm amazed he survived another 20 years.

I'll be 7 months in a week or so, things are looking good so far. As of yesterday, we were both still alive, anyway.

Tadao

Oct 23rd, 2009, 12:26 PM

I bet House could cure you.

Colonel Flagg

Oct 23rd, 2009, 01:48 PM

:lol :\

Kitsa

Oct 23rd, 2009, 04:19 PM

He'd have a hard time after I kicked him in the balls and told him to stop faking accents.

george

Oct 30th, 2009, 11:42 AM

i hate it when threads turn somber.

i have never sustained a major injury of any sort. the worst thing i have ever had was a massive sinus infection, and surgery to fix crossed eyes (same day, i was released home to my parents).

next to zombies, having to stay in the hospital is my greatest fear.

Kitsa

Oct 30th, 2009, 04:13 PM

it's only somber if you let it be. I have cancer, I also have high arches and red hair and two pairs of khakis.

I'm just saying the show needs to be more honest because vulnerable people are watching that shit and are going to be misled.

Tadao

Oct 30th, 2009, 04:19 PM

I always assumed that when people find out they have a life changing disease, they research everything about it for months on end. So I assume the people misled will never know because they won't go through it.

Kitsa

Oct 30th, 2009, 04:23 PM

from what I've found, there are a lot of reactions. Some people research. Some people are just so completely terrified that they don't want to hear anything about the disease, don't want to know anything, basically want to stick their heads in the sand.

Some people form an intense affiliation with one specific doctor and say, "I will do whatever this doctor says and then everything will be okay."

And then some people act casual on the surface but are frantic on the inside, and they're the ones who listen when people come up to them with stories about so-and-so's friend's brother-in-law's neighbor who had cancer or when something about cancer's on TV.