Schizophrenia

[Tadao]

I'm watching a documentary on 2nd Life and there was something that really peeked my interests. Some dude made a virtual reality simulator on schizophrenia.

http://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/welcome/features/20070404_virtual_psych/index.html

I'm probably gonna follow the instructions and sign up for free trial to see this, but the reason why it hits home is because my youngest brother caught crazy.

I was the first one to find him deaded.

I hate you fags.

[The Leader]

:(

[Fathom Zero]

:lol good jokes, tadao!!!!!!!

[Sam]

god you are like a broken record sometimes :rolleyes

[Supafly345]

The cancer of mental disorders =(

[Tadao]

The only downside is signing up for 2nd life. I wish he made a java version.

[executioneer]

i'd rather have schizophrenia than play second life

[Pentegarn]

In all seriousness, I want to know what you find out about it as a matter of interest. My GF was all about Second Life and she might find it interesting

[Evil Robot]

Theres no more gambling on SL so its now useless.

[Tadao]

In all seriousness, I want to know what you find out about it as a matter of interest. My GF was all about Second Life and she might find it interesting

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[Pentegarn]

That's both disturbing and depressing

[Fathom Zero]

Holy shit, that's nuts.

[kahljorn]

that sorta reminsd me of when i did hells bells :O

[Zhukov]

Scary stuff. :\

[VaporTrailx1]

that's why i stay away from second life

[Babs]

reminds me of when I said goodbye to myself

[ZeldaQueen]

Shouldn't have watched that video at one in the morning... :hypno

[executioneer]

i liked that video better when it was call of cthulhu: dark corners of the earth

[Tadao]

Going to do the NAMI walk tomorrow. I hope a freak doesn't decide I look like the devil and try to conquer me by eating my dick.

[Sethomas]

I'm doing fine, but I had to edit out personal information because people who are more psychotic than I ever was decided to read this.

[Fathom Zero]

I read everything you write intently, Seth.

But what compelled you to write so much?

[Tadao]

I used to take way too much acid and for about a year straight, I believed I had the power to read minds. I would have interesting conversations with people all the time and they never knew it. :O

[Pentegarn]

Seth's post is interesting. It makes you question the whole mental health system.

How many cases are needlessly medicated? Was Seth the exception or is his case perhaps part of a much more common problem?

If it is the latter, it is a frightening concept.

[kahljorn]

I don't know if its a common problem per se but there are diseases which are thought to be induced by the psychologist through basically the power of suggestion/being in a distressed state. Multiple personalities is I think an example of this from what i remember.

there's like an article on wikipedia about iatrogenic mental illnesses:
In psychology, iatrogenesis can occur due to misdiagnosis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_error) (including diagnosis with a false condition as was the case of hystero-epilepsy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hystero-epilepsy)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iatrogenesis#cite_note-spanos-2)). Conditions hypothesized as partially or completely iatrogenic include bipolar disorder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder),[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iatrogenesis#cite_note-3) dissociative identity disorder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_identity_disorder),[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iatrogenesis#cite_note-spanos-2)[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iatrogenesis#cite_note-Braun1989-4) fibromyalgia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibromyalgia),[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iatrogenesis#cite_note-Hadler1997-5) somatoform disorder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somatoform_disorder),[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iatrogenesis#cite_note-Abbey1993-6) chronic fatigue syndrome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_fatigue_syndrome),[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iatrogenesis#cite_note-Abbey1993-6) posttraumatic stress disorder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posttraumatic_stress_disorder),[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iatrogenesis#cite_note-Boscarino-7) substance abuse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substance_abuse),[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iatrogenesis#cite_note-Moos2005-8) antisocial youths[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iatrogenesis#cite_note-Weiss2005-9) and others,[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iatrogenesis#cite_note-10) though research is equivocal for each condition.[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)] The degree of association of any particular condition with iatrogenesis is unclear and in some cases controversial. The over-diagnosis of psychological conditions (with the assignment of mental illness terminology) may relate primarily to clinician dependence on subjective criteria.[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)] The assignment of pathological nomenclature is rarely a benign process and can easily rise to the level of emotional iatrogenesis, especially when no alternatives outside of the diagnostic naming process have been considered:lol antisocial youths

plus this isn't even counting the people who aren't really that bad but just want to get free awesome drugs like ativan or less awesome drugs like xanax.

[Chojin]

i liked that video better when it was call of cthulhu: dark corners of the earth

yeah, i was gonna say it's like silent hill, only it came like 8 years later and somehow looks worse

[Colonel Flagg]

Welcome back Seth. :)

In more ways than just one.

[The Leader]

Sethomas, the wind beneath my wings, have you gone back to school or are you just working?

[Pentegarn]

I wonder if he is going to post again. I have a feeling this was a one and done for him :(

[Sethomas]

Sorry, anti-stalking measures compel me to edit this.

[Colonel Flagg]

I'm sorry to hear about your mother. :(

I'm glad you are at last able to resume your studies (when your personal life permits, of course) - for what would you be studying? You probably have several choices in the humanities, I would think. Philosophy, Classics, Theology to name three. Or a combination?

[Fathom Zero]

You lookin' good, Bob Ross. Fret not, your presence is always appreciated. I hope everything works out for you in the end.

[The Leader]

I'm glad to hear that your mother is better. :>

Godspeed with the whole academic learnings and everything. Maybe you could get another book published. :o

[Tadao]

This thread is crazy!

[Colonel Flagg]

I hear voices. :shocked

[kahljorn]

one time when i did a lot of meth i heard voices :O

[Pentegarn]

Meth voices all tell you the same thing, "start fights and act like an ass"

[Colonel Flagg]

Spoken with the voice of experience! :eek

[Kitsa]

I'm glad your mother is better.

I was once an employee of IU also. I hope you're paid better than I was.

[Pentegarn]

Spoken with the voice of experience! :eek

Not quite in the way implied, but yes. That's why I don't do summer leagues anymore. Methheads don't have the attention span of a 36 week winter league

[kahljorn]

Nah, that's the voices i hear when i get really drunk :lol

when i do a lot of meth its people going, "CAN HE HEAR US? I THINK HE CAN HEAR US"
"FINALLY :rolleyes"

[Tadao]

When I do a lot of meth my voices tell me to get more meth.

[Chojin]

I hear voices. :shocked

http://www.i-mockery.com/chojin/watorton.jpg

[Dimnos]

I bet a laxative would help with that. :\

[kahljorn]

personally i think judging by the expression in his eyes he has already received that sort of help :(

[MLE]

I just want to put my two cents in on the serious side of this discussion, as started by Sethomas. I was misdiagnosed for 5 years and mis-medicated for those 5, plus an additional 4. I have only recently been medicated properly, with the initial most-used medications for the disorders. I have minimal side effects, and all five medications are playing well with each other.

I'm furious that it took 9 years for this to happen, and I'm even more furious that because of these things happening, less people are seeking medical help (psychotherapy and medication both), due to the mistrust of the system and people.

[The Leader]

Misdiagnosed as having schizophrenia or misdiagnosed as not having it?

[Kitsa]

My OCD was diagnosed at age 9 and I was given a number of antidepressants for anxiety symptoms. They didn't do anything but make me an automaton or dullard, and the OCD symptoms kept going strong. I discontinued medication long ago; I think they're overused and often inappropriate to the situation. I do better without meds than I ever did with them, although it's situation-specific.

[Colonel Flagg]

I hate the overuse of psychotropic medications. It speaks (unfortunately) to humankind's woefully incomplete understanding of the mind and brain.

[The Leader]

Zoloft works just fine thank you very much. >:

[Fathom Zero]

Zoloft am not good. >:

[kahljorn]

its funny because within the mental health system its known that they have no fucking idea how the medicine works or what effects it will have or if it will even help. Its sort of like a shot in the dark where if it works, it works, so they keep doing it.

I think its becoming like a cultural thing. I know this lady that was basically a legal drug addict who basically pretended to have all kinds of illnesses so she could get drugs or whatever. Eventually her shitty lifestyle led her to have real problems so now she gets all kinds of hardcore drugs. Anyway, one of her kids was SAD about some shit so of course immediately she medicates her with anti-depressants. And it was being sad that like one person didnt like her in school or some stupid shit that normally parents just like have a talk with their kid and tell them THATS LIFE. But no she had to be medicated
one of her kids felt "LEFT OUT" cause she didn't get any pills, so her mom started giving her heartburn medication ;/ wtf? Are you TRYING TO RAISE DRUG ADDICTS?

not as relevant but this same person also smoked cigarettes while her child was in her wombbecause she heard that it will make them SMALLer and so it would be easier for her to have the child. that child has crazy ridiculous hardcore annoying ADHD. I hate her :( also she thinks she is a wonderful mother and frowns on ANY PERSON that smokes pot or does drugs.

man i could talk for ages about this stupid lady ;/

[Babs]

Why are pills on the rise all of a sudden. Everyone's a fucking conniving pill addict now, just stealing from friends and family members to get "percocet's". A generation of vile mutants with an unquenchable hunger for substance induced cheap gratification. Lazy sloths with the appearance of a back up dancer in Digital Underground. A never ending nightmare that gets more mind numbingly redundant each day.

[Tadao]

I just want to put my two cents in on the serious side of this discussion, as started by Sethomas.

WTF BITCH!

[Fathom Zero]

Why are pills on the rise all of a sudden. Everyone's a fucking conniving pill addict now, just stealing from friends and family members to get "percocet's". A generation of vile mutants with an unquenchable hunger for substance induced cheap gratification. Lazy sloths with the appearance of a back up dancer in Digital Underground. A never ending nightmare that gets more mind numbingly redundant each day.

Which cyberpunk novel was that on the back of?

[executioneer]

babality pancakes would you stop quoting things from frank millers "the goddamn batman" please

[kahljorn]

pills are probably on the rise because of reality television and people who make it look ok plus the fact that its legal and people can easily justify themselves and even present themselves as victims of something.

[Babs]

babality pancakes would you stop quoting things from frank millers "the goddamn batman" please

Sorry, it's just defacto to come out of my mouth.

[Fathom Zero]

DO YOU KNOW WHAT DE FACTO MEANS?

[Babs]

Pretentious latin faggotry

[kahljorn]

THATS WHAT IT IS NOT WHAT IT MEANS

I THINK WHAT HE MEANT WAS IT DEFECATED OUT OF HIS MOUTH

[Babs]

NOPE WRONG YOU ARE VERY WRONG. I DON'T TALK SHIT.

[The Leader]

HE JUST EATS IT

[Babs]

:yum

[kahljorn]

YOU TALK SHIT YOU EAT SHIT

[Babs]

I LIVE SHIT

[Kitsa]

i don't shut up i grow up
and when i see you i throw up
and then your mom comes around the corner and licks it up

[The Leader]

AW SNAP

[Kitsa]

if you like that, I've got a riveting one about milk and lemonade

[The Leader]

No, that one is just gross. :(

[Pentegarn]

Got any involving rubber and glue?

[Kitsa]

My parents tell me that at my first piano recital at like age 3 or 4 or something, some other kid who was waiting his turn onstage turned to me and was loudly doing the milk-milk-lemonade pantomime. Apparently I had a look of disgust on my face that got a laugh from the audience. I remember nothing about this.

[Zhukov]

My parents tell me that at my first piano recital at like age 3 or 4 or something, some other kid who was waiting his turn onstage turned to me and was loudly doing the milk-milk-lemonade pantomime. Apparently I had a look of disgust on my face that got a laugh from the audience. I remember nothing about this.:lol

. Lazy sloths with the appearance of a back up dancer in Digital Underground.
What? Like 2 Pac? I don't remember the back up dancers from Digital Underground being anything other than normal back up dancers.

[Babs]

O:lol


What? Like 2 Pac? I don't remember the back up dancers from Digital Underground being anything other than normal back up dancers.

Actually, I was referencing towards tupac.

[Fathom Zero]

Fucking Tupac and his Groucho Marx burn victim eyebrows.

[Colonel Flagg]

My parents tell me that at my first piano recital at like age 3 or 4 or something, some other kid who was waiting his turn onstage turned to me and was loudly doing the milk-milk-lemonade pantomime. Apparently I had a look of disgust on my face that got a laugh from the audience. I remember nothing about this.

YOU GO GIRL!