Let's Have A Tea Party!

[Colonel Flagg]

I was in town today, with the fam, and as we walked toward the center, we saw a group of individuals hoisting placards and yelling incoherently. Cars were honking at them as they drove by. As we got closer, I was able to make out the words "Kill the Bill" and "No to Obamacare".

Right.

I wonder how many of them actually can speak coherently and accurately about the issues, or who have more than a knee-jerk interpretation of the actual bill? (aka Health care for me = Good; health care for all = bad)

I'm betting in the low single digits, and by low I mean none. :(

But we should all be against the bill anyway, right?

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

I was thinking about that. What if we just free healthcare for minors?(under 18). I'm not endorsing that but just an idea.

[Supafly345]

I hope the Tea Baggers split off into their own party so half the crazies would leave the GOP and we could actually have the possibility of a good canididate from the right for once.

[Colonel Flagg]

Health care has become the poster child of political football. If you support it, you're a socialist. If you're against it, you're a right wingnut.

[Colonel Flagg]

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/03/a-final-weekend-of-whoppers/

[Supafly345]

That article isn't nearly as long as it should be, but I should still visit factcheck more often.

[Zhukov]

I saw an episode of The Daily Show recently where they showed some footage of some bloke likening the struggle against health care to the 'Velvet Revolution' in Czechoslovakia.

They then had a skit where someone listed how they were similar, and what the brave Czechoslovaks were fighting for, including; dissolution of the one party state, free and democratic elections, free healthcare, end to censorship, the right to strike...

Wait, what?

[Fathom Zero]

I was thinking about that. What if we just free healthcare for minors?(under 18). I'm not endorsing that but just an idea.

I would back that, but that's probably one of those ideas that sounds so simple, but really is. >:

Fucking govt.

[Colonel Flagg]

What would be great is if people wouldn't lie for political gain.

:lol2

[Colonel Flagg]

That article isn't nearly as long as it should be, but I should still visit factcheck more often.

Agreed, and agreed. :(

[Blasted Child]

Congrats Americans, you're no longer the only country in the civilized world without a nationalized health care

[Colonel Flagg]

About GD time, too. :(

[executioneer]

lets have a tea-h-c party :legalizeit :420 :smokeweedeveryday

[Zhukov]

So what kind of half baked, retarded step-cousin of a socialised health care do you have now? Is it actually in, or is it just the first step on a long road?

I would be making jibes at how backwards the USA is right about now, but Australia has been taking a few steps back in the progressive race recently.

[Supafly345]

I am not sure if the public option got put back into it, but if it is then it is only a small part of all the things this bill fixed.

[Colonel Flagg]

I would be making jibes at how backwards the USA is right about now, but [....]

No, go right ahead. What with all the homophobic, racist and otherwise hateful rhetoric espoused by the "new right" that would be perfectly accurate. :(

[TheCoolinator]

I hope the Tea Baggers split off into their own party so half the crazies would leave the GOP and we could actually have the possibility of a good canididate from the right for once.

I highly doubt that the Republican's will ever have a good candidate again. I don't think they understand that running on platforms that demand endless wars and less good paying jobs isn't really something that people living in tent cities are willing to latch on to.

The democrats are the same but sneakier, hence why we are still in Bush's wars.

I'm guessing in the next few years people will have enough of this treadmill of futility we call the election process and start a brand new political party.

Congrats Americans, you're no longer the only country in the civilized world without a nationalized health care

Don't pat us on the back just yet. I heard all this healthcare bill really is, is a bailout for the bankrupt insurance agencies. They are going to force people to buy products from for-profit unregulated health insurance companies using medicare's money. So you pay into it through ObamaCare and they STILL deny your claim.

Very similar to the banker bailout. They send trillions of dollars of free tax payer money into the investment banks and then those same banks STILL forclose on you. The American people are taken yet another ride on the bullshit express.

Health care has become the poster child of political football. If you support it, you're a socialist. If you're against it, you're a right wingnut.

I'm for an optional single payer government Health care plan. Problem is that ObamaCare is just another sweet heart deal for the insurance companies who gambled on derivatives and lost. Hence why a lot of the house democrats were against it from the start but were bullied into supporting it.

There still isn't a single payer option in the bill to compete with private interests and that's the point.

I wouldn't be surprised if quite a lot of Non-Red states follow suit and passed laws against the Health Care bill just like they did regarding the Patriot Act.

The government can't force it's population to buy a product from a private for profit instituion.

[The Leader]

I'm guessing in the next few years people will have enough of this treadmill of futility we call the election process and start a brand new political party.
That'd be nice but I think the two party system is so ingrained in America's conscious that anything else would be considered un-American. As long as we have our NASCAR we'll be fine.

[TheCoolinator]

That'd be nice but I think the two party system is so ingrained in America's conscious that anything else would be considered un-American. As long as we have our NASCAR we'll be fine.

A lot of things are called un-American now a days. Sometimes I feel like I'm living in a neo-MacCarthy universe where Communists are now called Terrorists and your "Aiding the Enemy" by speaking your mind.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Is_this_tomorrow.jpg

[The Leader]

Man, I wish we had guys named Arkady Grigorovich Ourumov giving priests the sleeper.

[TheCoolinator]

Man, I wish we had guys named Arkady Grigorovich Ourumov giving priests the sleeper.

I'm slightly perturbed that they left out the question mark at the end of "Is this tomorrow" but all is not lost. I think you may have invented a new WWE gimick.

Priest VS The Red Scare

Monday Night Raw!

[Colonel Flagg]

Raw has other meanings as well....

http://recollectionbooks.com/bleed/images/humor/bolsheviksBathroom.jpg

Man that toilet tissue has the look and feel of sandpaper. >:

[Zhukov]

I'm sure that the poster probably doesn't fuck up 'you're' and 'your' all the time, though.

I'll let you guys in on a little inside secret: When we reds take over the USA then it's going to be somewhat like that poster, only with more blood, and we'll have better uniforms.

[TheCoolinator]

I'm sure that the poster probably doesn't fuck up 'you're' and 'your' all the time, though.

Your grammar complaints are emboldening the terrorists / communists. Stop being a cut and runner.

[jhonnyD2]

thanks all....

[Pentegarn]

The mad 'thanker' strikes again!

[Colonel Flagg]

Naaaah. There couldn't be a connection, could there?

[TheCoolinator]

lol, who is that guy?

[Tadao]

I wonder if this effects my disability medicare. :(

[Colonel Flagg]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20100311/wl_csm/286856

So, Rush, do they have outpatient treatment plans for chemical dependencies?

How soon can you book a flight?

[Colonel Flagg]

lol, who is that guy?

He's been thanking everybody for about the past 4 or 5 days now, in almost every forum.

As to who he is, well that is the question, now, isn't it?

[TheCoolinator]

He's been thanking everybody for about the past 4 or 5 days now, in almost every forum.

As to who he is, well that is the question, now, isn't it?

hahaha, that's somewhat odd but creative nonetheless. I think the best part about it is the Vanilla Ice avatar. It really makes me feel like Robert Matthew Van Winkle is thanking me personally for listening to "Ice Ice baby" in the 90's.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20100311/wl_csm/286856

So, Rush, do they have outpatient treatment plans for chemical dependencies?

How soon can you book a flight?

And Colonel,

Don't listen to what Rush, Hannity, or O'Reilly say. They are just put there so right-wingers will worship them and carry their backwards ideology into the real world. Hence why it's impossible to have a conversation with them. Sean Hannity still tells his audience on almost a daily basis that we actually found WMD's when we went into Iraq and no bid contracts are good for America.

[Colonel Flagg]

<sigh> :(

[The Leader]

:lol

[TheCoolinator]

<sigh> :(

:lol

You guys really believe that all the talking heads, left or right, are really pushing their own ideologies? You don't think they are reading from a pre-written script?

Divide and Conquer. A fragmented population that votes for leaders that are already funded by private interests.

Their team may win but their standard of living still falls.

[Dimnos]

Do you honestly think the Colonel needed you to inform him? If you go back and read his post you just might find a joke made at Rushs expense.

[Dimnos]

Although I cant promise anything.

[Tadao]

Coolie read and comprehend something without feelings of paranoia?

Come on dude.

[The Leader]

Coolinator, do you have a developmental disorder?

[Colonel Flagg]

That's entertainment! :lol

[TheCoolinator]

Do you honestly think the Colonel needed you to inform him? If you go back and read his post you just might find a joke made at Rushs expense.

The only reason why he made a joke about Rush is because he's still trapped in the left / right paradigm. He wouldn't have made the joke if it was Kieth Olbermann or Rachel (The Man) Maddow.

The facts remain,

Obama a supposed Leftist passed a right wing health bill that Sean Hannity and Rush LOVE. It gives all the medicare money directly to the for profit unregulated insurance companies WHILE cutting medicare. It's a right wingers dream come true.

But not many Lefty's will notice this until it's too late and even if they do they will be too delusional to blame it on Obama. They will probably make themselves feel better by blaming it on the republicans. Even though they voted for it with smiles on their faces.

This who nonsense about Rush hating the Healthcare bill is Kabuki theatre. It's professional wrestling but with politics. It's all rigged.

[The Leader]

So then why did you write the way that you did in your previous post?

[TheCoolinator]

So then why did you write the way that you did in your previous post?

How did I write? I don't understand. He sighed, you laughed, and I assumed that you were just making light of my post.

The talking heads on television are liars. Everything that comes out of their mouths is a manufactured ideology meant to fracture the public into small angry little groups thus making them impotent. This isn't difficult to understand. Unless you're just pretending to not understand me to be funny.

On Topic:

Has anyone read the Obama care bill? Did you see how it will ration health care to the elderly while pumping cash into for profit insurance companies?

[Colonel Flagg]

To the any moderator:

Please lock this thread.

PLEASE!

[Colonel Flagg]

Coolie, look here (http://www.i-mockery.com/forum/showthread.php?t=69702801&highlight=conspiracy)- you may be more comfortable posting in this thread.

You'll certainly not piss people off so much. :\

[TheCoolinator]

Coolie, look here (http://www.i-mockery.com/forum/showthread.php?t=69702801&highlight=conspiracy)- you may be more comfortable posting in this thread.

You'll certainly not piss people off so much. :\

Fine,

If I'm not welcome I will leave and go back to the video game forum. Hmph!

[Dimnos]

The only reason why he made a joke about Rush is because he's still trapped in the left / right paradigm. He wouldn't have made the joke if it was Kieth Olbermann or Rachel (The Man) Maddow.


Man you look way to into things. He made a joke about Rush because there was a joke to be made about Rush. You know, because Rush has a history with prescription pills that Olbermann and Maddow just dont have. :rolleyes

[TheCoolinator]

Man you look way to into things. He made a joke about Rush because there was a joke to be made about Rush. You know, because Rush has a history with prescription pills that Olbermann and Maddow just dont have. :rolleyes

Rush also said that there should be manditory prison terms for drug users. His hypocrisy is unending. Hence why nothing they say should ever be taken seriously. Left wing talk show hosts included.

Keith Olbermann used to go on 30 minute tirades ripping Bush to pieces over illegal wire tapping and false statements before the war but all that disappeared now because Obama is in office. Now the wars are just and we have to get the "terrorists" and illegal wiretapping are OK because they are protecting the homeland.

[The Leader]

The talking heads on television are liars. Everything that comes out of their mouths is a manufactured ideology meant to fracture the public into small angry little groups thus making them impotent. This isn't difficult to understand. Unless you're just pretending to not understand me to be funny.
The only reason you could possibly think that we don't know that is if you are either incredibly narcissistic and believe yourself to be smarter than everyone, or you are a complete idiot. I think that it's a combination of the two.

[Dimnos]

Leader did I ask him about the hypocrisy of Rush? Or about anything Olberman said?

[Tadao]

Fine,

If I'm not welcome I will leave and go back to the video game forum. Hmph!

Yes, you are not welcome here.

[The Leader]

Leader did I ask him about the hypocrisy of Rush? Or about anything Olberman said?
No, it had nothing to do with the conversation. He just likes to throw things out there and then when we don't respond to that particular part he thinks that we just don't know what's going on. He's enduring like that.

[TheCoolinator]

Did anyone read the Health Care bill that just passed? Stocks prices are sky rocketing because of it.

[The Leader]

Insurance companies stocks have been going up for a while. Apparently there are actually some people out there who understand the law.

[TheCoolinator]

Insurance companies stocks have been going up for a while. Apparently there are actually some people out there who understand the law.

Oh, I thought they were going up because of this.


Health-care stocks led the stock market higher Monday after the U.S. House Sunday approved a historic health-care overhaul designed to bring health insurance to 32 million more Americas while subjecting U.S. industries to a dramatically redrawn and newly regulated marketplace.
MARKET ACTION: U.S. stocks gained broadly, led by a surge in health-care stocks.

The Dow's pharmaceutical components strengthened, as drug makers are expected to profit from the expansion of health-care coverage. Merck rose 2.3%, while Pfizer climbed 1.5%.

Hospital operator Tenet Healthcare rose 6.1%, while insurer Cigna gained 1.9% and Express Scripts, a pharmacy benefit manager, rose 2.1%. Pharmaceutical companies also climbed, with Eli Lilly up 1.3% and Bristol-Myers Squibb up 0.6%.

WINNERS & LOSERS: Health-care providers, drug companies and device makers are expected to see a neutral or even a positive impact from the legislation. Hospitals, clinical laboratories and pharmaceutical companies will see a deluge of new customers and could potentially benefit if millions of more Americans are insured.

The outlook may not be so rosy for insurers. Though they will gain enrollees, they also face a raft of new regulations that would bar insurance companies from denying coverage to individuals with pre-existing conditions -- and limit their ability to differentiate insurance premiums based on a customer's age and other factors.
Also, Medicare providers will face both cuts and new regulatory restrictions.

http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-market-news-story.aspx?storyid=201003221132dowjonesdjonline000 249&title=at-a-glancehealth-care-stocks-up-after-house-oks-overhaul (http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-market-news-story.aspx?storyid=201003221132dowjonesdjonline000 249&title=at-a-glancehealth-care-stocks-up-after-house-oks-overhaul)



Well, At least some states are passing laws to negate this Insurance Bailout.

[Colonel Flagg]

For the record, I tried to help him out, showing him where he could legitmately post conspiracy theories. They would even be welcomed there.

BTW, I'd love to get him and Geggy together.

[Tadao]

And KKKaumph

[TheCoolinator]

BTW, I'd love to get him and Geggy together.

Where is Geggy? Did he get tired of being called a "conspiracy theorist"? From what I've seen of his previous posts he was persecuted in the same manner as I am. I guess Geggy and I share the same ideology and do not adhere to the rigid paradigm that others fanatically latch on to.

Red = Bad......Blue = Good.....

Blue = Bad.......Red = Good.....

[Tadao]

No, he knows he's a conspiracy theorist and unlike you, he is proud of it.

[TheCoolinator]

No, he knows he's a conspiracy theorist and unlike you, he is proud of it.

Where did you learn the phrase "conspiracy theorist" from and can you define it for me please? Because it sounds like you and others just throw the title out there as if it will magically discredited everything that the other person is saying.

[Tadao]

OH MY GOD, IT'S A CONSPIRACY AGAINST YOU!

[Colonel Flagg]

Personally, I think you could learn a lot from Geggy. :grasshopper

[TheCoolinator]

OH MY GOD, IT'S A CONSPIRACY AGAINST YOU!

When you call another person a "conspiracy theorist" that tells to me that you just don't want to think about the subject. What you really want is someone of presumed authority to come over and tell you exactly what to think and to point out which faction is your designated enemy.

Hence why you automatically called me a "Conspiracy theorist" the minute I walked in the forum.

Break your conditioning will ya.....you're not Pavlov's dog.

Personally, I think you could learn a lot from Geggy. :grasshopper

You should introduce us. It will save you from having future tantrums.

[Tadao]

Yes, that tells YOU something, but what it means is a person who theorizes about conspiracies. But you're a fucking nut.

[TheCoolinator]

Yes, that tells YOU something, but what it means is a person who theorizes about conspiracies. But you're a fucking nut.

Isn't history full of Conspiracies? So why wouldn't mine hold any validity if History is literally packed with them :confused:

Also,

If you do any research about what I've been saying you may actually come to the same conclusion but maybe that's the thing that scares you the most. Maybe one day someone may be calling YOU a conspiracy theorist. :)

ON TOPIC:

The Tea Party Right wingers were actually correct for once about ObamaCare!

You can have your "ignore" tantrum now Colonel.

[Tadao]

:lol You read way too much into things. You'll read too much into these two sentences.

[Dimnos]

Its not so much that you have theories about conspiracies so much as you just bust into the middle of a conversation with them. The Colonel just made a joke about Rush so you felt the need to come barging in Kramer style with your "talking heads are liars" bit. Just barely on topic enough to not be a thread derailment.

Speaking of the Colonel... Why do you need to get up his ass? What did he do to you?

[TheCoolinator]

Its not so much that you have theories about conspiracies so much as you just bust into the middle of a conversation with them. The Colonel just made a joke about Rush so you felt the need to come barging in Kramer style with your "talking heads are liars" bit. Just barely on topic enough to not be a thread derailment.

First off,

I'm assuming that you didn't read the first post because this whole entire topic is based around hatred for people of the right-wing persuasion. Which IMO is a futile effort considering that both sides are funded by the same people. THEN the topic continued by stating that Tea Party people are idiots and don't have enough mental fortitude to understand the bill they are protesting against.

I wonder how many of them actually can speak coherently and accurately about the issues, or who have more than a knee-jerk interpretation of the actual bill? (aka Health care for me = Good; health care for all = bad)Seems like someone has prejudices against others...hmmm?? Maybe assumptions that aren't exactly true....hmmm....food for thought.


Speaking of the Colonel... Why do you need to get up his ass? What did he do to you?

I'm not getting up anyone's anywhere. If you haven't noticed I continue to get verbally abused when pointing out basic facts. The Tea Party and others (Democrats as well) were correct about opposing this legislation.

And if anyone would like to have a little conversation about that then fine but if everything I say will be answered with "Conspiracy theorist" then I'm not going to participate. Nor will I have a conversation with someone who speaks so low of his fellow citizens. I'm not a fan of conditioned arrogant elitism.

[Tadao]

Basic facts :lol

[The Leader]

I'm not a fan of conditioned arrogant elitism.
:lol

[Tadao]

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[The Leader]

You forgot to mention how you're persecuted because everyone else votes either democrat or republican because you totally knows everything about everyone and everything.

[Tadao]

DID YOU NOT READ MY POST! LET ME QUOTE IT!

Here is my Impression of a Coolie post.

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Clearly you can see my point of view!

[Colonel Flagg]

[lots of stuff about stuff]

I thought I was being helpful.

You remind me of one of my old freshman chem students, pre-med. Constantly coming to office hours with the same old exam trying in vain to show me that they did get the answer right, or at least deserved partial credit.

Honestly.

I started this thread because it occurred to me as I was driving through my hometown that most individuals who protest one way or another probably have no clue as to the ramifications of what they may be protesting for or against. I am intrigued but not surprised that it has evolved into a discussion of the pros and cons of the present solution to the current healthcare crisis, now known disparagingly as Obamacare.

Personally, I only am convinced that the most dangerous path is to do nothing. A bad solution can be fixed, but it at least moves us off the status quo. Witness the decision of the previous administration on stem cells - it spawned a whole new era of research into modification of epithelial cells to become pluripotent stem cells. Would this have happened if research was not restricted by the Bush administration? Maybe not.

No quotations, no links, and no trying to convince anyone. This is only my opinion.

[Colonel Flagg]

:lol @ Tad

EDIT - KK would like him. A lot. ;)

[TheCoolinator]

A story about nothing.....

(Yawn)


I started this thread because it occurred to me as I was driving through my hometown that most individuals who protest one way or another probably have no clue as to the ramifications of what they may be protesting for or against.

How do you know this? If I remember correctly from your original post all you did was walk by them with your nose in the air like some pseudo-intellectual.....:lol Then after assuming something that you had no proof about you scoffed at them for taking part in the political process. For shame Colonel...for shame.

I am intrigued but not surprised that it has evolved into a discussion of the pros and cons of the present solution to the current healthcare crisis, now known disparagingly as Obamacare

As stated in my previous posts....AND....repeated by dissident Democratic senators and congressmen, this "Bill" is nothing more then a bailout for the bankrupt insurance and pharmaceutical companies. If you read the bill....which you didn't.....making this a rather hypocritical topic to post...you would have realized that all of the money gets funneled directly into the bank accounts of numerous designated winners who have connections in the white house and congress.

Personally, I only am convinced that the most dangerous path is to do nothing. A bad solution can be fixed, but it at least moves us off the status quo. Witness the decision of the previous administration on stem cells .

The content of your opinion doesn't surprise me in the least. What it says is that you would rather go along with something bad then actually have something good. Which doesn't make too much sense here in the land of the conscious observer.

What we don't have is a single payer option to compete with private for profit unregulated insurance companies.

What we got....not by our choosing I may add....is a bill cobbled together by the private sector to rip off the common man. This health care system is now a state sponsored cartel to gut the American people and deny them care. Hence why true Democrats fought against it.

This is the Antithesis of FDR and Johnson's Great society. Another sad day in the land of the blind.

[Tadao]

fag

[TheCoolinator]

fag

Read the Bill. :rock

[Tadao]

faggot

[TheCoolinator]

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This is before they threatened him and forced him to vote for it AND its on MSNBC so I hope it makes you feel like your listening to the "winning" side.

[Tadao]

fgt

[Zhukov]

Pharmaceutical companies are bankrupt?

[Colonel Flagg]

<sigh>

He is as dismissive and as arrogant as he claims that I am. Pot, meet kettle.

Tadao, you're right. Much as I've tried to drag a coherent thought out of him, it's just not coming. And that's a shame, because I think if he could just drop his facade of elitism he could present a few excellent points. Unfortunately, it gets lost in his attitude - I know more than you do, therefore you should believe me; if you don't you're a lemming. :noseintheair

I'm sure he has a few links, or a video that he'll show now to prove me wrong. :rolleyes

For the record, I've actually spoken to many protesters in my 50 years on this earth, and it has been my experience (not sound-bite, blog, or op-ed piece) that most individuals did not really know why they were protesting. They were there because someone told them to be there - in other words, they were doing exactly what Coolie has been accusing most of us, including myself, of doing - being lemmings.

Again, I have no sound-bite, blog or op-ed piece to show to prove me right. I don't particularly feel the need to prove myself to anyone, as this is only my opinion. Feel free to disagree, this is teh interwebs. Just try to do it in a non-condescending manner.

[Tadao]

He made the mistake of joining a forum where people can pick apart his copy/paste wisdom. When asked to explain his ideals he resorts to being a faggot.

[TheCoolinator]

I hear a lot of grumbling, did I just sink your battleship?

High Fives all around!

[Colonel Flagg]

What are you talking about?

[TheCoolinator]

What are you talking about?

Did you watch the Kucinich video? There is a great part at the end of it where he said that voting for a bad bill is like building a house on sand.

[Tadao]

fggt

[The Leader]

(Yawn)

How do you know this? If I remember correctly from your original post all you did was walk by them with your nose in the air like some pseudo-intellectual.....:lol Then after assuming something that you had no proof about you scoffed at them for taking part in the political process. For shame Colonel...for shame.

As stated in my previous posts....AND....repeated by dissident Democratic senators and congressmen, this "Bill" is nothing more then a bailout for the bankrupt insurance and pharmaceutical companies. If you read the bill....which you didn't.....making this a rather hypocritical topic to post...you would have realized that all of the money gets funneled directly into the bank accounts of numerous designated winners who have connections in the white house and congress.

The content of your opinion doesn't surprise me in the least. What it says is that you would rather go along with something bad then actually have something good. Which doesn't make too much sense here in the land of the conscious observer.

What we don't have is a single payer option to compete with private for profit unregulated insurance companies.

What we got....not by our choosing I may add....is a bill cobbled together by the private sector to rip off the common man. This health care system is now a state sponsored cartel to gut the American people and deny them care. Hence why true Democrats fought against it.

This is the Antithesis of FDR and Johnson's Great society. Another sad day in the land of the blind.
Let's see what any of this has to do with what Colonel wrote... Hmm, yes, yes... I have concluded that this has absolutely nothing to do with what Flagg wrote and that Coolinator is possibly schizophrenic.

[TheCoolinator]

Let's see what any of this has to do with what Colonel wrote... Hmm, yes, yes... I have concluded that this has absolutely nothing to do with what Flagg wrote and that Coolinator is possibly schizophrenic.

lol, :lol

Do I have to pull out the Exhibits again like I did in the global warming debate? You didn't like when I did that the last time. :love

[Tadao]

fagt

[Colonel Flagg]

^^^ This. :lol

[The Leader]

Do I have to pull out the Exhibits again like I did in the global warming debate? You didn't like when I did that the last time. :love
Would any of them actually have to do with the discussion or will they just be kind of related and/or present ideas that everyone already agrees upon?

[Kitsunexus]

I think we should just make everything free. That way we wouldn't have to worry about healthcare or recessions, and doctors and other would work because it's necessary for survivalism, not for money.

[The Leader]

You are adorable.

[Colonel Flagg]

:dunce

[Supafly345]

http://www.thefoxnation.com/business/2010/03/22/irs-hiring-thousands-armed-tax-agents-enforce-obamacare
IS THE IRS HIRING NEW ARMED TAX AGENTS TO ENFORCE OBAMACARE?? WHY ARE WE THE ONLY ONE'S ASKING THIS QUESTION?

[kahljorn]

you have got to be kidding! THIS IS NOT AMERICA

[TheCoolinator]

The health care bill has turned the government into one giant bill collector for private for profit insurance companies.

[The Leader]

Yup. :hankhill

[Colonel Flagg]

I was thinking more Dale Gribble.

[kahljorn]

well, it was pretty much already like that with auto insurance anyway ;/

[Colonel Flagg]

No, that's not the FEDERAL government that is invading our privacy and ruining our lives forcing us to buy car insurance that's vastly overpriced and a burden to those of us that need viable transportation thus feeding the fatcats in Washington who get kickbacks from the insurance industry.

That would be the individual STATE governments that do that.

So that's OK.

[kahljorn]

oh :O

[Dimnos]

http://visboo.com/img/19042010/49609.jpg

http://visboo.com/img/19042010/44168.jpg

http://visboo.com/img/19042010/72412.jpg

http://visboo.com/img/19042010/10027.jpg

http://visboo.com/img/19042010/59071.jpg

http://visboo.com/img/19042010/57081.jpg

http://visboo.com/img/19042010/78943.jpg

http://visboo.com/img/19042010/27930.jpg

[TheCoolinator]

Yes, we know.

The Republican's created a doppleganger Tea Party movement that pushes retarded right wing lunatic values. We get it.

Now do some research on the real Tea Party Movement.

[The Leader]

Yes, do some research. I will not elaborate any more on what I am referring to, however, because that should be evident in my post.

[Zhukov]

Seriously, I disagree with 99% of this thread. If you guys did some research you would know why.

[Colonel Flagg]

Which 1% do you agree with? :confused

For the record, research is only as good as the researcher. So if you do the research, you can still come up with the wrong answer. But you can come up with the right answer - if you agree with my opinion. Thus, research is the way to go, but you can get there faster if you just listen to me.

Here's a link (http://www.heresalink.com).

[Fathom Zero]

lol

Wrong research is wrong. Or just plain missing. I'm doing a research paper on a topic I know exists. It exists on the bloody internet. But the databases my school pays bookoo bucks for contain only one or two articles remotely related to it. Fucking stupid.

[TheCoolinator]

Seriously, I disagree with 99% of this thread. If you guys did some research you would know why.

What's there to disagree with?

ColonelFlagg made this thread because he assumed that some random people he'd come across in his daily activities were ignorant of the topic they were protesting about.

Since no one knows this is true....even ColonelFlagg...we can't really agree or disagree with it. All we can do is take some kind of rational idea and run with it. Hence why I rattled off some facts about the Insurance Bailout Bill (Obamacare).

You can't disagree with a condescending, elitist, infantile attitude. All you can do is condemn the practice, make a mental note of that negative behavior, and make sure not to imitate it in your daily life.

[Colonel Flagg]

You can't disagree with a condescending, elitist, infantile attitude.

Coming from you, that's pretty funny. :lol

[TheCoolinator]

Coming from you, that's pretty funny.

I'm not the one who made a thread based around condescending to people you just happened to walk by that day and from the amount of times you brought up your beloved "Degree" I think you have some sort of self esteem issue.

Degree's don't prove you're intelligent. They just prove you were able to jump through hoops like a circus animal.

Real intelligent comes from understanding, caring, and experience, not casting judgement on individuals you do not know.

[The Leader]

I'm not the one who made a thread based around condescending to people you just happened to walk by that day and from the amount of times you brought up your beloved "Degree" I think you have some sort of self esteem issue.

Degree's don't prove you're intelligent. They just prove you were able to jump through hoops like a circus animal.

Real intelligent comes from understanding, caring, and experience, not casting judgement on individuals you do not know.

I love you Coolie. Never go away.

[TheCoolinator]

I love you Coolie. Never go away.

Awwwww :love

[Dimnos]

I love you Coolie. Never go away.

Have havnt gone mo have you Leader? Say it aint so. :tear

Oh and Coolie, why do you always come across like you have your panties in a wad?

[Zhukov]

I'm not the one who made a thread based around condescending to people you just happened to walk by that day.



I don't know what the hell this means.

[TheCoolinator]

I'm not the one who made a thread based around condescending to people you just happened to walk by that day.

I don't know what the hell this means.

1. "I'm not the one who made a thread based around condescending"

Meaning ColonelFlagg made a thread based around condescending.

2. "Condescending to people you just happened to walk by that day"

He happened to see some people that he didn't agree with and had to rage about it on the internetz without know them or knowing the case they were fighting against. See Dennis Kucinich interview I believe on page two of this post.


Any other question?




Oh and Coolie, why do you always come across like you have your panties in a wad?

My panties are fine, thank you very much. :|

[Colonel Flagg]

I'm not the one who made a thread based around condescending to people you just happened to walk by that day and from the amount of times you brought up your beloved "Degree" I think you have some sort of self esteem issue.

:confused

I went back to reread my original post, and while I admit I was sarcastic towards the protesters, my original thought was to discuss the health care bill amongst ourselves. My final query was to pose if we should be for or against the bill, my opinion notwithstanding.

I even posted a link to factcheck.org. :shocked

On your other point, I may have brought up my education once or twice while you've been here, perhaps in the AGW thread or in the "Health & Science Thread" but not in this thread, and not recently. If I wanted to be taken seriously all the time, I wouldn't be posting on i-mockery.

[...] why do you always come across like you have your panties in a wad?

I agree with Dim. Who peed in your cornflakes, dude? Relax a little, OK?

Real intelligent comes from understanding, caring, and experience, not casting judgement on individuals you do not know.

I said it before - this made me laugh, coming from you. :lol

And it's "intelligence" not "intelligent". Or perhaps you meant "intellect".

Just sayin'. :posh

[Colonel Flagg]

1. "I'm not the one who made a thread based around condescending"

Meaning ColonelFlagg made a thread based around condescending.

That's your opinion. I can tell you categorically that I was not being condescending - I was being sarcastic. Which is a "whole 'nother thing altogether."


2. "Condescending to people you just happened to walk by that day"

He happened to see some people that he didn't agree with and had to rage about it on the internetz without know them or knowing the case they were fighting against. See Dennis Kucinich interview I believe on page two of this post.

I also did not rage anywhere in this thread. I rarely ever rage - I do occasionally argue vociferously.

The only person I "see" raging in this thread is you, dude. Relax a little. ;)

[The Leader]

Flagg, stop using words that people don't use in brief summaries of news articles that coolie then links to. They are confusing and big.

[Pentegarn]

Flagg, stop using words that people don't use in brief summaries of news articles that coolie then links to. They are confusing and big.

No we need more big words!

Antidisestablishmentarianism!

Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis!

or that protein who's full chemical name has almost 190,000 letters in it!

[The Leader]

You mean this one? (http://sarahmcculloch.appliedgeekery.com/longest-word.html)

[Colonel Flagg]

That's still not as big as the largest known prime number (http://prime.isthe.com/no.index/chongo/merdigit/long-m43112609/prime-c.html.gz).

I AM SO SMART!
I AM SO SMART!
S-M-R-T

I MEAN S-M-A-R-T!

[Dimnos]

That's still not as big as the largest known prime number (http://prime.isthe.com/no.index/chongo/merdigit/long-m43112609/prime-c.html.gz).

I AM SO SMART!
I AM SO SMART!
S-M-R-T

I MEAN S-M-A-R-T!

Or you can just click this...

http://www.math.utah.edu/~pa/math/largeprime.html

[Zhukov]

1. "I'm not the one who made a thread based around condescending"

Meaning ColonelFlagg made a thread based around condescending.

2. "Condescending to people you just happened to walk by that day"

He happened to see some people that he didn't agree with and had to rage about it on the internetz without know them or knowing the case they were fighting against. See Dennis Kucinich interview I believe on page two of this post.




Oh that's ok. I was just wondering if that was what you meant since I think maybe there is a word missing from the sentence, that's all. No biggie.

You mean this one? (http://sarahmcculloch.appliedgeekery.com/longest-word.html)
Is that real? It seems to me that it's just a few words copy-pasted over and over and over again.

[Pentegarn]

You mean this one? (http://sarahmcculloch.appliedgeekery.com/longest-word.html)

I love that a computer speaking at a really fast rate still took over 8 minutes to say that one word :lol

Is that real? It seems to me that it's just a few words copy-pasted over and over and over again.

It all depends on who you ask. A linguist will say no because it is a formula and dictionaries say a formula is not technically a word. If you ask people trying to be a smart ass, they will argue for it being an actual word for comedic effect. But it is an actual chemical formula, and it is spelled that way. It would all come down to how you define what a word actually is.

[Pentegarn]

Oh that's ok. I was just wondering if that was what you meant since I think maybe there is a word missing from the sentence, that's all. No biggie.

There's no maybe about it, he should have the word 'being' in there before 'condescending', and he does not, so it comes out stilted.

[Zhukov]

Well it even that 'formula' seems like it's just copy and paste over and over and over again. I would have thought that a formula would only need each... uh... ingredient pronounced once, rather than five hundred of 'glutamyl'. Call me ignorant if it's not the case.

[Dimnos]

I think we need a ruling from the Colonel.

[Colonel Flagg]

Sorry, naming proteins is what biochemists do, and why I try to stay as far away from the subject as possible.

IUPAC says that the 189+kword name is the correct one, so I'll let them be the judge and jury.

Personally, I like the name "Titin" much better. Much more compact. :)

[Fathom Zero]

u3SWNRDFrt0

[Pentegarn]

Personally, I like the name "Titin" much better. Much more compact. :)

Me too, especially because it has a tit in it

[The Leader]

I like how Coolie is supposed to be smarter than everyone but he can't even read the board rules that recommend people don't make a "Hi I'm new" thread, he can't read the sub-headers of the sub-forums to know that threads about toys go in the gaming sub-forum, and he just pm'ed Kitsa asking her what her avatar is from even though he just posted in the same thread where she explained that exact thing. Why is the only person who understands everything about the world also the only person on this forum who can't read?

[Kitsa]

Just the same, I'll explain it. I just wish I could remember what the chick's name was. I used to know it, dammit.

[The Leader]

See guys, thecoolinator has it all figured out:
Doctors don't even study health; they study disease. Modern doctors are taught virtually nothing about nutrition, wellness or disease prevention. Expecting a doctor to guide you on health issues is sort of like expecting your accountant to pilot a jet airliner -- it's simply not something he or she has ever been trained in.True fact: It is illegal in every U.S. state for a doctor to recommend any vitamin, nutrient or food for the prevention or treatment of any disease. Doing so can cause a doctor to have his medical license permanently revoked. How crazy and outdated is that? I should probably report almost every doctor that I have ever had, then.

More research is needed to find "cures"
This lie is especially hilarious because western medicine does not believe in any "cure" for any disease. They aren't even looking for cures! This lie has been repeated since the 1960's, when cancer scientists claimed they were only a few years away from curing cancer. Today, four decades later, can you think of a single major disease that western medicine has cured? There aren't any.Smallpox doesn't count, I guess.

[Kitsa]

I can think of two of us here who have actually set foot inside a medical school (and paid tuition/exorbitant book fees). I can think of one additional person who has a doctorate in a scientific field. All three of us would most likely take exception to all of those statements. :/

[The Leader]

You're all just a part of the system. You've got to open your minds to the truth but instead you keep them closed and just believe everything that you're told.

[Colonel Flagg]

Why is the only person who understands everything about the world also the only person on this forum who can't read?

Dude, I think you answered your own question right there. :eek

[The Leader]

SHIT

[Colonel Flagg]

Is this thread still about tea?

I prefer the green tea that you get with Chinese takeout.

[Kitsa]

I like green tea mainly. I liked Tender Leaf (gold box) in the 80s and 90s but can't find it anymore.

[Dimnos]

See guys, thecoolinator has it all figured out:
I should probably report almost every doctor that I have ever had, then.

Smallpox doesn't count, I guess.

He is probably splitting hairs by saying a vaccine isnt a cure but a preventative measure. What a tool.

[Pentegarn]

I do drink a lot of iced tea. I probably drink a gallon of it a day (no joke I really do)

[kahljorn]

i like tea a lot too. i like jasmine green tea a lot but probably my favorite tea is earl grey :( that bergamot spice or whatever they put in it is awesome. i usually mix it with milk and sugar and its deliciounable

[Zhukov]

I drink a lot of Nestea. My favourite is pear.

[TheCoolinator]

I drink Medicinal Herbal Tea (Organic) and Yogi Detox Tea (Partially Organic)

Is be good for yuz all!

[Pentegarn]

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[Tadao]

OH HI! IS IT TOO LATE TO COMPLAIN AND RUIN A FUN THREAD?

[kahljorn]

yea but don't let coolie catch ya

[TheCoolinator]

yea but don't let coolie catch ya

How dare you! >:

[Blasted Child]

I buy really big bags of dried lemon balm, and use it with a standard tea strainer. More healthy than tea and much much cheaper.
Ok I don't really know about the health part, but at least there's no caffeine or shit

[TheCoolinator]

I buy really big bags of dried lemon balm, and use it with a standard tea strainer. More healthy than tea and much much cheaper.
Ok I don't really know about the health part, but at least there's no caffeine or shit

I heard somewhere that Lemon is a natural anti-depressant.

[Tadao]

FUCKING STOP QUOTING THE POST ABOVE YOU YOU ARE WASTING INTERNET SPACE

[The Leader]

But then how will people know who he's responding too?

[Colonel Flagg]

You raise an interesting point.

(Am I responding to Tadao, Leader or Coolie? 10 points to whoever guesses correctly!)

[Tadao]

Since you didn't quote, I would assume the person above you.

[Colonel Flagg]

Ah, yes, but how do you KNOW? I could have posted that in response to you, but THE LEADER got his response in before mine.

[Tadao]

Edit/quote/post/fixed.

[Colonel Flagg]

Touché. ;)

[Zhukov]

People in the southern hemisphere aren't allowed to edit. :\


Having said that, I am a serial non-quote replier, and while sometimes it screws me up (like when I don't realise that there is a whole other page of conversation after what I am replying to) it does look much neater, and seem smarter when it is actually posted right after what I am replying to.

[TheCoolinator]

People in the southern hemisphere aren't allowed to edit. :\


Having said that, I am a serial non-quote replier, and while sometimes it screws me up (like when I don't realise that there is a whole other page of conversation after what I am replying to) it does look much neater, and seem smarter when it is actually posted right after what I am replying to.

Wow, I really don't care about this thread anymore.......:rolls eyes

going to make a new news thread now. >:

[Colonel Flagg]

You'll post here again, you can't help yourself. :rolleyes