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Dimnos
Apr 23rd, 2010, 04:25 PM
I FUCKING KNEW IT!!!! :lol

Dimnos
Apr 23rd, 2010, 04:31 PM
Just because its the only thing this thread is lacking...

Carstache!

http://www.5andadime.com/blog/771/daily45.jpg

The Leader
Apr 23rd, 2010, 04:38 PM
Fact check.org is run by the The Annenberg Foundation who Obama used to work for. A bunch of union busters.
WorldNetDaily is totally unbiased, though, right? It's not like it's a ultra conservative site or anything.
I thought that you were opposed to the "talking heads" of Fox, CNN and other "news" companies. That's why I was a little confused when you linked from this site, one which Bill O'Reilly has written for. Surely you don't just take bits and pieces of things that fit in with your view point and use them without considering how reliable they are. :O
Read the bill.
There's nothing in there about death panels. If by death panels you mean insurance companies can deny care, well, they can do that now so don't you think calling such a thing a "death panel" just because there's some pointless bill now is a little asinine?

Pentegarn
Apr 23rd, 2010, 05:25 PM
Just because its the only thing this thread is lacking...

Carstache!

http://www.5andadime.com/blog/771/daily45.jpg

I feel better about this thread now

kahljorn
Apr 23rd, 2010, 07:47 PM
moustached cars will smuggly sit in their comfortable death panel chairs, comfortably passing down death on sick america.

does that car look uncomfortable with passing down death? Just look into his statesman's moustache and tell me that.

Colonel Flagg
Apr 23rd, 2010, 08:35 PM
CARSTACHE!!! FUCK YEAH!!!!

Coolie, go post in a thread about healthcare! I think I may even have made one, oh so many days ago. ;)

HINT: Look for the thread about a "tea party". I think we're currently discussing Pekoe and Darjeeling, though. :(

Dimnos
Apr 24th, 2010, 02:59 AM
Coolie, go post in a thread about healthcare! I think I may even have made one, oh so many days ago. ;)

HINT: Look for the thread about a "tea party". I think we're currently discussing Pekoe and Darjeeling, though. :(

I know there is one where some canuck was bitching how we are the only country in the free world without free healthcare. :rolleyes

kahljorn
Apr 24th, 2010, 05:14 AM
what's so free about it :rolleyes

Zhukov
Apr 24th, 2010, 05:31 AM
Yeah, the USA isn't part of the "free world".

kahljorn
Apr 24th, 2010, 07:52 AM
there's no such place :rolleyes

TheCoolinator
Apr 25th, 2010, 11:15 PM
WorldNetDaily is totally unbiased, though, right? It's not like it's a ultra conservative site or anything.
I thought that you were opposed to the "talking heads" of Fox, CNN and other "news" companies. That's why I was a little confused when you linked from this site, one which Bill O'Reilly has written for. Surely you don't just take bits and pieces of things that fit in with your view point and use them without considering how reliable they are. :O

There's nothing in there about death panels. If by death panels you mean insurance companies can deny care, well, they can do that now so don't you think calling such a thing a "death panel" just because there's some pointless bill now is a little asinine?

lol, are you that naive to believe that a left-wing news website would actually post the existence of death panels / rationing of care / cuts in medicare?

Absolutely not, all they talk about is the small little insignificant things in the bill that "regulate" the health care industry (who wrote the entire bill).....which aren't compulsory but merely voluntary....that sound good to the duped public.

This bill is a monstrosity and yet again the American people are going to swallow it, hook, line UN sinka! I don't even know why we continue to debate this.....we've agreed on the farce this bill is. Are we really haggling over if the Death Panels exist? They do....they obviously won't be called that. They'll probably be called "Happy Advisory Boards" which...as it says in the bill....will RATION CARE....DEATH = Rationing of Care....SURPRISE....genocide!

Anyone get that movie reference?

kahljorn
Apr 26th, 2010, 02:53 AM
i think the whole idea of talking about "death panels" is a circumstantial ad hominem or something :(

jackbency
Apr 26th, 2010, 04:58 AM
There is No solution with killing innocent people , Innocent Lives are lost. That is the sad part of it. and I’m curious and a little bit scared to see how the Russian government will respond to this attack.

Colonel Flagg
Apr 26th, 2010, 09:15 AM
Welcome to the party, pal.

TheCoolinator
Apr 26th, 2010, 09:17 AM
There is No solution with killing innocent people , Innocent Lives are lost. That is the sad part of it. and I’m curious and a little bit scared to see how the Russian government will respond to this attack.

Anyone know a rough estimate of attacks inside Russia in the last decade? And has anything been done to smooth over these hostilities?

Dimnos
Apr 26th, 2010, 11:42 AM
And has anything been done to smooth over these hostilities?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/14/Stolibottle.PNG/125px-Stolibottle.PNG (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Stolibottle.PNG)
Country: Russia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia)

Region: Moscow

Status: Still produced

Owner: Disputed between Russian government and Soyuzplodimport (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyuzplodimport) Website Stoli.com (http://www.stoli.com/)




Everything looks to be in order. :)

The Leader
Apr 26th, 2010, 11:48 AM
Fails to defend veracity of source and continues hypocrisy.
So Bill O'Reilly and the right wing are unbiased?

Dimnos
Apr 26th, 2010, 12:01 PM
HEY! Dont you dare talk shit about Bill. That man is out there every day with his heart on his sleeve defending Christmas from asinine heathens such as yourself. >:

http://www.newshounds.us/images/ssBOReHypocrite2.jpg
















































:lol

TheCoolinator
Apr 26th, 2010, 01:19 PM
So Bill O'Reilly and the right wing are unbiased?

I think Zhukov summed it up a while ago regarding you're perception. When things don't fit into your cookie cutter idea of reality you tend to start getting a little confused and revert right back to "left / right".

The Obamacare bill is a fraud designed to fool the people into believing that real health care reforms are taking place when in fact it's designed by the Insurance companies to be a bailout for the insurance companies while also cutting Medicare and allowing the same Insurance companies to exercise the ability to deny care (AKA DEATH PANELS). There will not be a Board called "DEATH PANEL 1", it will be an incremental but harsh denial of benefits (Genocide).

It’s all very simple.

That article I posted wasn't about left or right, it was just blatant observations of the obamacare bill which you agreed with me that it's a complete and utter farce.

Exhibit A:

I think his post was focusing more on the whole death panel myth thing that Palin still clings to. And you, apparently. No one here has ever disagreed that this is just a bailout for insurance companies.

So no one is disagreeing with me on the Bailout for the Insurance companies but JUST BECAUSE IDIOT IMBECILE SARAH PALIN SAID DEATH PANELS EXIST THAT AUTOMATICALLY MAKES THEM FAKE?

Do you see? Little Puppet. Do you see how they pull your strings?

They get the discredited and hated "Right wing" to say their against something and it automatically makes people rally behind it. It's been done TIME and TIME again.

Most of the Republicans voted for the healthcare bill. They love it. They hide their true motive in these kabuki theatre roles they play.

Colonel Flagg
Apr 26th, 2010, 01:46 PM
Most of the Republicans voted for the healthcare bill.

Which healthcare bill are you talking about? In the most recent version of the so-called "Obamacare" bill, every single House Republican voted no.

EDIT: So sorry, you're obviously talking about a "super-secret" vote they held before the final vote so they could say they were against the bill, even though it "really" passed near unanimously.

But of course there's no record of this vote; it's been "classified" by the "shadow government".

Colonel Flagg
Apr 26th, 2010, 01:47 PM
Back to the Moscow Metro Bombings, for a moment:

MORE VODKA!!!

TheCoolinator
Apr 26th, 2010, 02:49 PM
Which healthcare bill are you talking about? In the most recent version of the so-called "Obamacare" bill, every single House Republican voted no.

EDIT: So sorry, you're obviously talking about a "super-secret" vote they held before the final vote so they could say they were against the bill, even though it "really" passed near unanimously.

But of course there's no record of this vote; it's been "classified" by the "shadow government".

You're right, no republican voted for the bill BUT everything in the bill is pretty much everything the "Right" preaches about. Corporate wellfare, Deregulation, denial of care, Cuts in Medicare, so on and so forth.

I hope a lot of the people who voted for obama are feeling some buyers remorse right now.

Bailouts, wars, and lies.

Colonel Flagg
Apr 26th, 2010, 03:37 PM
To any Green Mod (or "secret" mod):

Would you please be so kind as to move this discussion to a healthcare thread? Pick one.

TheCoolinator
Apr 26th, 2010, 04:51 PM
To any Green Mod (or "secret" mod):

Would you please be so kind as to move this discussion to a healthcare thread? Pick one.

It's all good. I'm done repeating myself.

Let's continue to talk about "terrorism".

Dimnos
Apr 26th, 2010, 05:01 PM
WReJgvOBXa8

kahljorn
Apr 26th, 2010, 05:26 PM
more like debt panels cause its not like they can legally let you die because you can't afford a treatment :rolleyes unless its like a transplant or something like that.

The Leader
Apr 26th, 2010, 08:17 PM
I think Zhukov summed it up a while ago regarding you're perception. When things don't fit into your cookie cutter idea of reality you tend to start getting a little confused and revert right back to "left / right". So no one is disagreeing with me on the Bailout for the Insurance companies but JUST BECAUSE IDIOT IMBECILE SARAH PALIN SAID DEATH PANELS EXIST THAT AUTOMATICALLY MAKES THEM FAKE?
They don't exist because they don't exist.
Do you see? Little Puppet. Do you see how they pull your strings?
No, do you see how you're too slow to understand what other people post? No? Not yet? Ok, well then me and Zhukov will keep fucking with you for kicks.
They get the discredited and hated "Right wing" to say their against something and it automatically makes people rally behind it. It's been done TIME and TIME again.


So, once again, you're saying that factcheck is unreliable but a site that Bill O'Reilly writes for is reliable. Or, rather, you can't wrap your undoubtedly deformed head around this concept and instead will either read too much into one aspect of this post or seem to miss the point entirely.

Coolie, what's it like being too stupid to know that you're stupid?

Colonel Flagg
Apr 26th, 2010, 09:09 PM
It's all good. I'm done repeating myself.

Dude, you will never be done repeating yourself. :rolleyes

Colonel Flagg
Apr 26th, 2010, 09:12 PM
For The Leader:

NUjjFETMTxE

The Leader
Apr 26th, 2010, 11:01 PM
I'm sorry. I'll try to be less lucid. :(

Zhukov
Apr 26th, 2010, 11:18 PM
The Leader you are an idiot if you think Government Death Squads don't exist. Remember Allende? Who do you think was really responsible for murdering John Lennon?

Pentegarn
Apr 27th, 2010, 06:04 AM
Who do you think was really responsible for murdering John Lennon?

Yoko Ono

Colonel Flagg
Apr 27th, 2010, 08:58 AM
:lol

TheCoolinator
Apr 27th, 2010, 09:05 AM
They don't exist because they don't exist.

So rationing of care is not Death Panels? Your lack of logic amazes me.



So, once again, you're saying that factcheck is unreliable but a site that Bill O'Reilly writes for is reliable.

FactCheck is absolutely unreliable for numerous reasons. First reason is that it's run by a private family (Foundation's are used by the rich for social manipulation and tax avoidance on their large sums of money), secondly it has ties to Annenberg which Obama used to work for.

So, the place where Obama used to make his living from is protecting him and you see no conflict of interest there?

I mean, come on TheLeader, Do you see now how when your little cookie cutter idea of reality doesn't add up you'll always go back to you're little "Left vs Right" Mentality?

Your hatred of Bill O'Reilly and other right wing fascists cloud your judgement and make it impossible for you to see that they're ALL fascists.

Once again, I'll repeat, The article I posted, is true. It doesn't matter that Bill-O wrote anything on the site, the article itself can't be challenged. Even Dennis Kucinich (DEMOCRAT) said the same exact thing. Please think rationally.

Colonel Flagg
Apr 27th, 2010, 09:59 AM
Dude, do you understand the phrase "Please continue this discussion in the Health Care Thread." - pick one, there are at least two that I know of.

Dimnos
Apr 27th, 2010, 10:58 AM
Fine Ill get it. >:

Zhukov
Apr 27th, 2010, 11:30 AM
Obamacare Paramilitary Death Panel, yesterday:

http://www.cipcol.org/images/080624agui.jpg

These people will decide whether you get medical aid or not, whether you live or die (genocide).

The Leader
Apr 27th, 2010, 11:44 AM
So rationing of care is not Death Panels? Your lack of logic amazes me.
How is that any different that what is done now with people being refused coverage because of pre-existing problems, etc? This bill hasn't changed anything and suddenly calling this process of determining who gets care a "death panel" is misleading. There is not some government run panel that will choose who lives and who dies, the insurance companies will be doing the same thing that they always have.

And I don't think that you've ever studied logic, much less practiced it.

FactCheck is absolutely unreliable for numerous reasons. First reason is that it's run by a private family (Foundation's are used by the rich for social manipulation and tax avoidance on their large sums of money), secondly it has ties to Annenberg which Obama used to work for.

So, the place where Obama used to make his living from is protecting him and you see no conflict of interest there?

I mean, come on TheLeader, Do you see now how when your little cookie cutter idea of reality doesn't add up you'll always go back to you're little "Left vs Right" Mentality?

Your hatred of Bill O'Reilly and other right wing fascists cloud your judgement and make it impossible for you to see that they're ALL fascists.
You're the only person who has made it left vs right. I don't hate Bill O'Reilly, I don't know him. I believe that he is biased towards the Republican party and goes with whatever the "conservative" view is. The reason I pointed out that he writes for the site you quoted from is because you attempted to discredit the site I used for reference by calling it biased. The whole point is that you are a hypocrite. It's ok if you use something from a biased website because it fits in with your view but it's not ok for me to reference an article from a biased website because it goes against your view.

If you're going to call the sites that I used biased, then don't use ones that are so obviously biased to back up you claims. Once again you are going off on some tangent that has nothing to do with what is being discussed.

Once again, I'll repeat, The article I posted, is true. It doesn't matter that Bill-O wrote anything on the site, the article itself can't be challenged. Even Dennis Kucinich (DEMOCRAT) said the same exact thing. Please think rationally.
Well, using your rationality I could say the same thing about factcheck.org. All I would have to do is ignore its biases like you do with your favored sites.

TheCoolinator
Apr 27th, 2010, 12:01 PM
How is that any different that what is done now with people being refused coverage because of pre-existing problems, etc? This bill hasn't changed anything and suddenly calling this process of determining who gets care a "death panel" is misleading. There is not some government run panel that will choose who lives and who dies, the insurance companies will be doing the same thing that they always have.

Like I said previously, no one will put a sign over a meeting hall that says "THIS IS A DEATH PANEL".

This is passed into law and as you stated will not change anything and will actually make matters worse by cutting more benefitial entitlement programs. You're not going to get a cut and dry manifestation of what Sarah Palin said. You will get see (soon enough) how these genocidal laws will be upheld by politicians, judges, and law enforcement. I. E. DEATH PANELS.


You're the only person who has made it left vs right. I don't hate Bill O'Reilly, I don't know him. I believe that he is biased towards the Republican party and goes with whatever the "conservative" view is..

So you're using Bill O'Reilly in an attempt to discredit an article that has nothing to do with "Right or left" ........see what I mean?

Dimnos
Apr 27th, 2010, 12:01 PM
GOD DAMN IT I DUG UP THE HEALTH CARE THREAD FOR THIS SHIT! YOUR KILLING THE COLONEL! >:

The Leader
Apr 27th, 2010, 12:10 PM
Like I said previously, no one will put a sign over a meeting hall that says "THIS IS A DEATH PANEL".

This is passed into law and as you stated will not change anything and will actually make matters worse by cutting more benefitial entitlement programs. You're not going to get a cut and dry manifestation of what Sarah Palin said. You will get see (soon enough) how these genocidal laws will be upheld by politicians, judges, and law enforcement. I. E. DEATH PANELS.
Law enforcement? What, when someone gets denied coverage are they going to get knee-capped by riot police?

If it doesn't cause the creation of a death panel, a actual panel of individuals who actually chooses who lives and who dies, then whey do you keep calling it that? The reason: it is a meaningless and superficial term but it makes things look bad even though nothing is changing.

So you're using Bill O'Reilly in an attempt to discredit an article that has nothing to do with "Right or left" ........see what I mean?
Yes, because that's what you did, but apparently you have a problem with it when I do it.

The Leader
Apr 27th, 2010, 12:11 PM
GOD DAMN IT I DUG UP THE HEALTH CARE THREAD FOR THIS SHIT! YOUR KILLING THE COLONEL! >:
TOUGH TITTY I'M HAVING FUN

Dimnos
Apr 27th, 2010, 12:12 PM
MY ONLY WISH IS THAT WHEN THE COLONEL DIES HE ENDS UP WITH WILLIE SO HE AT LEAST HAS BETTER COMPANY THAN THIS! >:

Dimnos
Apr 27th, 2010, 12:13 PM
JERKS! >:

The Leader
Apr 27th, 2010, 12:14 PM
YOU'RE THE JERK TELLING PEOPLE WHAT TO DO >:

Dimnos
Apr 27th, 2010, 12:16 PM
IM TRYING TO SAVE LIVES!

The Leader
Apr 27th, 2010, 12:17 PM
Oh, ok then.

Colonel Flagg
Apr 27th, 2010, 12:47 PM
Aaaaack. (cough cough) ......

<expires>

"Code Blue! Code Blue to Room 222, stat!"

"Clear!"

<BZZZZZZT>

:shocked

CF: "A Pint of Stout!"

TheCoolinator
Apr 27th, 2010, 01:16 PM
Law enforcement? What, when someone gets denied coverage are they going to get knee-capped by riot police?

If it doesn't cause the creation of a death panel, a actual panel of individuals who actually chooses who lives and who dies, then whey do you keep calling it that? The reason: it is a meaningless and superficial term but it makes things look bad even though nothing is changing.

Naivety strikes again!

Government regulators (most of which from the IRS) will be forcing you UNDER LAW to buy products from for-profite insurance companies. You ever know what happens to people when they don't pay their income tax? hmm? JAIL.

Guess what will happen to you if you don't buy these "products".

Also, just guess what will happen if you fight them in court about denying coverage........ITS THE LAW NOW...WE CAN DENY YOU.. "DEATH PANEL"

The term is not superficial. It's real. It exists. It's wrapped up in a different kind of paper with a bow on top but it's still a Death Panel.

Open your eyes.

Yes, because that's what you did, but apparently you have a problem with it when I do it.

No, what you did was just reference some discredited right-wing mad man in an attempt to demonize the content of my article.

WHAT I DID:

Was explain to you the history behind "FactCheck.org", where it comes from, who used to work for it (Obama), and why it's being used to manipulate public opion.

My way was much more indepth.

The Leader
Apr 27th, 2010, 01:23 PM
Naivety strikes again!

Government regulators (most of which from the IRS) will be forcing you UNDER LAW to buy products from for-profite insurance companies. You ever know what happens to people when they don't pay their income tax? hmm? JAIL.

Guess what will happen to you if you don't buy these "products".

Also, just guess what will happen if you fight them in court about denying coverage........ITS THE LAW NOW...WE CAN DENY YOU.. "DEATH PANEL"

The term is not superficial. It's real. It exists. It's wrapped up in a different kind of paper with a bow on top but it's still a Death Panel.

Open your eyes.
Open my eyes? Where have you even mentioned some panel who decides who lives and who dies?

No, what you did was just reference some discredited right-wing mad man in an attempt to demonize the content of my article.

WHAT I DID:

Was explain to you the history behind "FactCheck.org", where it comes from, who used to work for it (Obama), and why it's being used to manipulate public opion.

My way was much more indepth.
So, because your way was much more "indepth", then it makes it ok for you to demonize the content of my article by showing how it is biased, but it's not ok for me to demonize the content of your article by pointing out how it is biased. That is your argument, it seems. I have no rebuttal to this because it fails logic and only demonstrates how you adhere to dogma.

TheCoolinator
Apr 27th, 2010, 01:30 PM
Open my eyes? Where have you even mentioned some panel who decides who lives and who dies?

If a law passes the Senate and the house which Obamacare did and it becomes law, federally mandated, who do you think will enforce it?




So, because your way was much more "indepth", then it makes it ok for you to demonize the content of my article by showing how it is biased, but it's not ok for me to demonize the content of your article by pointing out how it is biased.

All you did was say "Bill O' Reilly".

That's it.

I however explained the historical significants of foundations, who owns and operates them, what they are for, who owns the Annenberg foundation, who used to work for them (Obama), and finally who operates FactCheck.org.


Any other questions?

The Leader
Apr 27th, 2010, 01:37 PM
Yes, were you born retarded or did something happen to you?

TheCoolinator
Apr 27th, 2010, 01:51 PM
Yes, were you born retarded or did something happen to you?

Saying a persons name doesn't automatically discredit the subject matter and Laws passed by congress and the senate are upheld through regulatory agencies.

This is all common sense. Please stop writing your little papers and begin to learn how the world really works.

Thank you.

The Leader
Apr 27th, 2010, 01:58 PM
I didn't just write his name. Why would anyone take you seriously if you can't even read posts?

TheCoolinator
Apr 27th, 2010, 02:05 PM
I didn't just write his name. Why would anyone take you seriously if you can't even read posts?

Oh, ya.....well.....BILL O'REILLY! Take that. Shows you. >:

Zhukov
Apr 28th, 2010, 12:48 AM
The Leader
Open my eyes? Where have you even mentioned some panel who decides who lives and who dies?

If a law passes the Senate and the house which Obamacare did and it becomes law, federally mandated, who do you think will enforce it?

Uh, the Grim Reaper? I mean I don't see how it's a panel deciding who lives and who dies otherwise.

Sorry for not understanding!

kahljorn
Apr 28th, 2010, 05:59 AM
So rationing of care is not Death Panels? Your lack of logic amazes me.When i was a kid my mother would often ration her care between my sister and I and even my father! Personally I can't believe my mother would ever be on something like a death panel... i better go talk to her about this!
doctors ration care.
People with more than one cute puppy ration care.
You ration care everytime you decide what/who to respond to.

YOU ARE ON A DeATH PANEL! AMERICA IS A DEATH PANEL.


dude, don't you know? There's no such thing as a death panel. its just a word some dumbass made to get people's panties in a bunch. who knows how many times this gay type of argument has been made. why don't you drop it. its gay. Its a loaded word. You could call them "HEALTH PANELS" and it has the same meaning. "TREATMENT PANElS." Fuck they don't even have to be panels. It's a way to "DEMONIZe" things (I think that's your CLEVeR word usage) by saying, "Oh look they make decisions about people's lives, therefore they are DEATH AGENTS" or some shti. but unforunately in the world some people have to deal with and make decisions about death, and if nobody did the world would be A LOT FUCKING WORSE. So you can take your little vagina that has been shedding its little CROCODILE TEARS ALL OVER THE PLACE and do something else with it >:
Insurance companies sans obamacare have "Death panels." Even doctors make decisions on who should receive what treatments and what is too risky. They don't give new livers to alcoholics. Why should they? OBAMNACAREDEATHPANEL THATS WHY. fuck and its not even like all of their decisions will inflict death upon people. What about the decisions of what cosmetic sugeries to include? DFEATHPANEL. FUCK WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE WHO DECIDE WHICH SHITTY SHOWS TO CUT HUH? ARENT THEY LIKE A DEATH PANEL OR SOMETHINg. ISNT THAT LIKE EVIL. TOTALLY EVIL DUDES TOTALLY JUSt MUrDERINg OFF SHOWS WHICH PEOPLE MIGHT LOVE. DO YOU KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE TO LOSE SOMETHING YOU LOVE? MAYBE YOU SHOULD RECONSIDER YOUR LITTLE DEATH PANEL THAT PLAYS ROULETTE WITH PEOPLE"S eNTERtAINMENT.

go deathpanel yourself

Zhukov
Apr 28th, 2010, 07:23 AM
Uh, Kahl, it's "terrorism" that doesn't exist, not Death Panels. Death Panels are real. Death Panels Death Panels Death Panels.

Colonel Flagg
Apr 28th, 2010, 09:01 AM
Welcome back, Kahl. :)

TheCoolinator
Apr 28th, 2010, 09:12 AM
Uh, Kahl, it's "terrorism" that doesn't exist, not Death Panels. Death Panels are real. .

Terrorism is a tactic. Not an army. Not a person. Most terrorists are funded and or condoned by Governments because they serve a purpose.

Nothings new under the sun.

Dimnos
Apr 28th, 2010, 11:51 AM
Not an army?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

TheCoolinator
Apr 28th, 2010, 01:27 PM
Not an army?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

Wow, thanks for the wikipedia reference.

Anyway,

Hamas is a political group. They aren't terrorists, nor are they an army. If they commit crimes then those individuals in Hamas are criminals.....not terrorists.

There are no terrorists. It's a term used to demonize the enemies of the oligarchical anglo-american imperialistic empire.

Dimnos
Apr 28th, 2010, 01:42 PM
No they just continually shoot rockets into Israeli homes. :rolleyes

TheCoolinator
Apr 28th, 2010, 01:53 PM
No they just continually shoot rockets into Israeli homes.

Some criminals shooting a home made rocket out of desperation doesn't equal "ARMY OF TERRORISTS".

And I guess Israel didn't do anything to provoke such an attack, right?

like...building illegal settlements on Palestinian land

like...shooting Palestinians indiscriminately

like...bulldozing Palestininas homes

like...denying them free range of travel

like...torture and imprisonment without trial

Watch Occupation 101.

Dimnos
Apr 28th, 2010, 02:38 PM
Israel tried to give the Palestinians a bunch of land, out of their own country no less, that the Palestinians already occupied and called home. The Palestinians basically spat in their face and refused. Israel has never said they wanted to wipe anyone off the face of the earth however many Arab countries and the Palestinians have repeatedly said they wish to do so to Israel and have repeatedly attacked them. OH GOD FORBID THEY DEFEND THEMSELVES IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY!! WHAT MONSTERS!!

TheCoolinator
Apr 28th, 2010, 02:50 PM
Israel tried to give the Palestinians a bunch of land, out of their own country no less, that the Palestinians already occupied and called home. The Palestinians basically spat in their face and refused. Israel has never said they wanted to wipe anyone off the face of the earth however many Arab countries and the Palestinians have repeatedly said they wish to do so to Israel and have repeatedly attacked them. OH GOD FORBID THEY DEFEND THEMSELVES IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY!! WHAT MONSTERS!!

You need to watch Occupation 101 and Peace, Propoganda, and the Promised Land. Free on google video.

Israel is the aggressor and an anglo-american staging ground for US / Britain attacks on middle eastern countries.

And Israeli generals are now considered more war crimes then they already were after they attacked the gazan strip with white phosphorus. An international war crime.

Dimnos
Apr 28th, 2010, 02:53 PM
You need to watch all these films where some guy states his bias opinion and only covers the facts and half truths that support what he wants you to think

No thanks.

TheCoolinator
Apr 28th, 2010, 03:17 PM
No thanks.

I think it would help you. :love

The Leader
Apr 28th, 2010, 03:31 PM
Terrorism is a tactic. Not an army. Not a person. Most terrorists are funded and or condoned by Governments because they serve a purpose.

Nothings new under the sun.
You said terrorists don't exist and that I was wrong for distinguishing between terrorists and conventional government military forces. Which is it? Is terrorism a tactic or does it exist?

TheCoolinator
Apr 28th, 2010, 03:39 PM
You said terrorists don't exist and that I was wrong for distinguishing between terrorists and conventional government military forces. Which is it? Is terrorism a tactic or does it exist?

False flag government sponsored terror exists. Terrorism as a military tactic exists but the terrorism that the media portrays doesn't exist in the slightest.

It's all smoke and mirrors.

Most of these alledged terrorists are nothing more then disenfranchised, desperate people who are fighting against an imperialistic reign.

As I said in the beginning. People who commit crimes are criminals not terrorists. The only reason why we call them all terrorists now is to perpetuate a paranoid mythology based on fairy tales.

Did you know that 16 of the 19 highjackers on 9/11 are still alive ? See? Smoke and mirrors.

The Leader
Apr 28th, 2010, 03:46 PM
False flag government sponsored terror exists. Terrorism as a military tactic exists but the terrorism that the media portrays doesn't exist in the slightest.

Most of these alledged terrorists are nothing more then disenfranchised, desperate people who are fighting against an imperialistic reign.
This is a contradiction. You say that they are financed by imperialists but are fighting them?

TheCoolinator
Apr 28th, 2010, 03:49 PM
This is a contradiction. You say that they are financed by imperialists but are fighting them?

Who we call "terrorists" are citizens of the country fighting imperialistic powers.

I.E. USA / Britain / Israel .

Dimnos
Apr 28th, 2010, 03:50 PM
:lol

The Leader
Apr 28th, 2010, 03:50 PM
You really, really suck at explaining things.

TheCoolinator
Apr 28th, 2010, 03:52 PM
You really, really suck at explaining things.

I don't find it that difficult to follow. Maybe it's just you.

The Leader
Apr 28th, 2010, 03:54 PM
Who we call "terrorists" are citizens of the country fighting imperialistic powers.

I.E. USA / Britain / Israel .
I'll try to get it out of you again, they use terrorist tactics and are therefore terrorists, but you said that they don't actually exist and all real terrorists are state sponsored. So which is it, are terrorists people who use terrorist tactics to combat government forces or are they only groups hired by governments?

TheCoolinator
Apr 28th, 2010, 04:02 PM
I'll try to get it out of you again, they use terrorist tactics and are therefore terrorists, but you said that they don't actually exist and all real terrorists are state sponsored. So which is it, are terrorists people who use terrorist tactics to combat government forces or are they only groups hired by governments?

You're being too absolute. Things aren't so rigid here in the real world. Maybe in a comic book or a cartoon which the news media is slowly becoming today.

Not all criminal activities are state sponsored and not all alledged criminal activity is actually criminal activity. Some of it is a rational response to the avarice and manipulation of other imperialistic nations.

9/11 was a state sponsored attack focused at the USA funded by the USA and the mythology was perpetuated by the USA

A suicide bomber from a Palestine whos family has just been crushed to death in their homes by an Israeli bulldozer was a reaction to the powers that be.


Some criminal acts are real, some are not. We shouldn't be talking about the tactic of terrorism. We should be talking about why crimes happen, who funds these criminal groups, and are they really criminals?

The Leader
Apr 28th, 2010, 04:04 PM
See, it's not that hard to answer someone's question. All you have to do is, uh, answer it instead of posting several links and rambling about something that has no connection to the question at all.

The Leader
Apr 28th, 2010, 04:05 PM
Things aren't so rigid here in the real world. Maybe in a comic book or a cartoon which the news media is slowly becoming today.
You've clearly never read any of Alan Moore's work.:posh

Dimnos
Apr 28th, 2010, 04:06 PM
I don't find it that difficult to follow. Maybe it's just you.

i bet a lot of people make fun of you when you try to communicate your opinion entirely through copypasting alarmist blogs with varying levels of boldness and font size. is that because everyone is stupid but you? or maybe there's a simpler reason.

Im going to go with Occam on this one.

TheCoolinator
Apr 28th, 2010, 04:08 PM
Im going to go with Occam on this one.

Someone seems to be taking lessons from Colonel Flagg.

Dimnos
Apr 28th, 2010, 04:33 PM
THATS WAY TO PERSONAL YOU DICK! >:

TheCoolinator
Apr 28th, 2010, 04:59 PM
THATS WAY TO PERSONAL YOU DICK! >:

I'm sorry, :(

but you're still wrong about everything.

Dimnos
Apr 28th, 2010, 05:09 PM
Your still a hypocrite. :rolleyes

The Leader
Apr 28th, 2010, 05:10 PM
"You are" is still spelled you're.

Dimnos
Apr 28th, 2010, 05:11 PM
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The Leader
Apr 28th, 2010, 05:12 PM
:(

TheCoolinator
Apr 28th, 2010, 05:15 PM
Your still a hypocrite.

And to be brutally honest.....I don't like the way you depict dinosaurs in you're avatar. They aren't all pole dancers. Some of them have families, Friends, occupations....Dinosaurs aren't just here for you're amusement. >:

I'm done with this thread. DONE!

Dimnos
Apr 28th, 2010, 05:22 PM
He is supposed to be animated. :(

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Dimnos
Apr 28th, 2010, 05:24 PM
And..... I never said they ALL were. She is just doing what needs to do to provide for her family and get through collage. DONT HATE >:

Tadao
Apr 28th, 2010, 05:43 PM
Holy god that is sexy

Colonel Flagg
Apr 28th, 2010, 09:19 PM
I'm done with this thread. DONE!

Show of hands - who believes this statement?

mew barios
Apr 28th, 2010, 10:53 PM
there i fixed it