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wizbenny
Jun 7th, 2010, 10:51 AM
Hey, I know posting this on a site with MOCKERY in the name is opening myself up, but if you can't be willing to take a ribbing or three, then why bother waking up in the morning. Anyway...

http://www.WaywardSons.net (http://www.waywardsons.net/)

We just launched Wayward Sons: Legends last week. It's a prequel ongoing daily comic to a series of properties including a movie that's in development. It updates every day Mondays through Fridays.

I've literally had this concept rattling around my brain for 17 years, and been in constant development in some form or another for the past couple years!

So this is a labor of love that's been LONG a long time coming, and I REALLY hope everyone likes it. Please do let me know what you all think!

Tadao
Jun 7th, 2010, 11:45 AM
That was pretty boring.

Colonel Flagg
Jun 7th, 2010, 12:43 PM
:bestthread

wizbenny
Jun 7th, 2010, 06:21 PM
Glad you liked it Colonel.

Hope you check back and watch as the action builds, Tadao. Sorry it couldn't begin with people dying and things exploding without a story behind the action. Just not the way I try to craft a story.

It does get pretty intense, starting tomorrow tho.

Tadao
Jun 7th, 2010, 06:24 PM
Is intense code for space soap opera?

Tadao
Jun 7th, 2010, 06:30 PM
u1sZDF8Gafk

wizbenny
Jun 7th, 2010, 06:36 PM
Is intense code for space soap opera?

Where something starts and where it goes are two different things. :-)

You'll be intensely surprised if you think this is a space opera.

Tadao
Jun 7th, 2010, 06:40 PM
I've read all the early Heavy Metal's and this starts of like one, but it's taking way too long. I'm sure it's too late to change the whole thing cause it's probably already finished, but many great stories where tuned out cause the "artist" insists on making us feel something important in the beginning. Who is this story for, us or you?"

Tadao
Jun 7th, 2010, 07:13 PM
OMG do you think Razelroq will tell Princess Omenia that he is really Prince of Bertqkuiknon 8?

Tadao
Jun 7th, 2010, 07:19 PM
motherfuckers better post more often or they are getting banned for spamming

wizbenny
Jun 7th, 2010, 07:54 PM
LMAO. This is five pages in.

Updating 5x a week, we're tied with Dreamland Chronicles for "fastest output of a full page/full color comic" so we can't go much faster.

But, perhaps the fact that you're anxious for more is a good thing.

Tadao
Jun 7th, 2010, 07:57 PM
5 pages into nothing.

Tadao
Jun 7th, 2010, 08:07 PM
If the Zyphonian module doesn't get to Epinon 4 by 18 Sun Clicks, the Fanterioum Gas will explode!

Pentegarn
Jun 7th, 2010, 08:17 PM
I will kiss my babies goodbye

And by babies, I mean unopened cans of Skyline Chili

Tadao
Jun 7th, 2010, 08:19 PM
THIS IS THE TRUE FACE OF A MASTER STORY TELLER!

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3848/537621-5502_creator_thumb.jpg

Pentegarn
Jun 7th, 2010, 08:22 PM
I went to school with a dude who looked like that

Tadao
Jun 7th, 2010, 08:27 PM
"Now, here's something I've been loathe to talk about RIGHT away, but since there's this nagging time-limit thing going with it, I figure the sooner the better. As anyone with eyes can see, our artists are doing a phenomenal job. I know I'm biased, but I think these guys may be producing one of the (if not the) best Webcomics out there.

HOWEVER, they're doing all of this for profit-sharing. Now, profits on Keenspot are generated via readers, and the fact is, it's going to take us awhile to get our readership to a level where we're hitting the number of pageviews necessary to cover their cost of living. But they continue on, knowing that we WILL get there.

As writer/creator, I personally don't make ANY money on stuff until long after they've been paid (and back-paid) and if I never make a dime from the comic, but they get paid... I'm perfectly content with that. I love these guys, and I want to continue working with them for YEARS to come.

So with all of that in mind, there are some things that you, as readers, can do to help. First and foremost, that's spread the word about the comic. The faster we get those readers, the faster these guys get paid what they're worth. The OTHER thing you can do is really BACK this project..."

http://wizbenny.livejournal.com/

Tadao
Jun 7th, 2010, 08:34 PM
http://wizbenny.livejournal.com/2066.html?view=1298#t1298

(Anonymous) wrote:
Jun. 8th, 2010 12:34 am (UTC)
Spam 4 Spam
http://www.i-mockery.com

EVIL ROBOT RULES

Pentegarn
Jun 7th, 2010, 08:37 PM
I :lol'd

Colonel Flagg
Jun 7th, 2010, 08:44 PM
Just in case you all missed it ...

:bestthread

I predicted ALL this. BEFORE it happened. :posh

Colonel Flagg
Jun 7th, 2010, 08:55 PM
I went to school with a dude who looked like that

Clubs - Math Team, Bridge Club, Chess Club
Nickname - Douchebaguette
Voted most likely to - retain his v-card for life

The Leader
Jun 7th, 2010, 09:02 PM
Everyone is so muscley and well built. I hate it. And that last page is dumb as hell. Oooo he kissed her hand and left magic alien sparkleys. It's like the fantasy of all of your socially awkward readers is coming to life. Perhaps they will even be able to live vicariously through mr. Alien Warden man. :O

Pentegarn
Jun 7th, 2010, 09:11 PM
Oooo he kissed her hand and left magic alien sparkleys.

That's just his space seed

Pentegarn
Jun 7th, 2010, 09:12 PM
Clubs - Math Team, Bridge Club, Chess Club
Nickname - Douchebaguette
Voted most likely to - retain his v-card for life

My school was too ghetto for Math team and Bridge club. We might have had a chess club/team, but I don't know. We had the "In the Know" team. They would work to get on the PBS game show "In the Know"

EDIT: :lol @ Douchebaguette

Colonel Flagg
Jun 7th, 2010, 09:27 PM
It's like the fantasy of all of your socially awkward readers is coming to life.

My cup runneth over. :lol

Tadao
Jun 8th, 2010, 12:15 AM
Tomorrows better be as good as he said.

Pentegarn
Jun 8th, 2010, 06:17 AM
By the by, (from my post in the other webcomic thread) this was what I think might be the wrong way to do it.

However in the comic forum (and art forum for that matter) it might be a grey area too. What with both of these forums being a place to talk about comics/art and sites related to them, I can see why new posters would think it acceptable to post their webcomic/art blog/site. Which isn't to say it is right for them to do so, just that I get how they might think it is

wizbenny
Jun 8th, 2010, 07:59 AM
Ah, you found my picture from back when I was a writer at Marvel comics. Flattering you'd go to all that effort.

The Leader
Jun 8th, 2010, 09:14 AM
I can see why new posters would think it acceptable to post their webcomic/art blog/site.
Ain't it in the rules that you can't join to do that, the ones that you get a link to via pm when you join? This idiot should have been banned already.

10,000 Volt Ghost
Jun 8th, 2010, 10:32 AM
There'll be peace when you are done. Lay your weary head to rest. Don't you cry no more.

BER NER NER NER BER NER NER NER BER NERRRR NER NERRRRRR

wizbenny
Jun 8th, 2010, 11:19 AM
Ain't it in the rules that you can't join to do that, the ones that you get a link to via pm when you join? This idiot should have been banned already.

Actually it says " Spamming. If you only signed up to shill your product/band/website/etc., your post will be deleted and your username and IP address will be permanently banned."

Spam is defined as - the use of electronic messaging systems (including most broadcast media, digital delivery systems) to send unsolicited bulk messages indiscriminately.

Since I specifically posted (and continue to interact) this isn't spam. Also, I did not join up "ONLY" to "shill" (which is a sychophantic and positive only interaction on behalf of a product) etc.

Had any of those been my goal, it would have been posted and I'd have moved on, clearly demonstrating I pass that litmus test.

HOWEVER, interestingly enough in the FAQs are these ways to get banned:

1. Do not take anything personally2. Do not start internet fights3. Do not hijack threads

Practice what you preach?

Tadao
Jun 8th, 2010, 12:07 PM
Also if a mod feels like it.

wizbenny
Jun 8th, 2010, 12:12 PM
Also if a mod feels like it.

That goes without saying.

LOL. By the way, I commented on your "Spam for Spam" and gave a plug for i-mockery. It is a fun site. You guys are crazy.

Tadao
Jun 8th, 2010, 12:17 PM
Thank you very much. You'll probably enjoy all the articles here since you were born in 73.

The Leader
Jun 8th, 2010, 12:21 PM
Practice what you preach?
Like I have to listen to a spammer. :rolleyes

Tadao
Jun 8th, 2010, 12:23 PM
If the Zyphonian module doesn't get to Epinon 4 by 18 Sun Clicks, the Fanterioum Gas will explode!

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii285/tadao_mockery/WebJunk/5cycles.jpg

:lol

The Leader
Jun 8th, 2010, 12:29 PM
Why, on the last page, does the guard get cut on the front of the throat (with blood appearing on the blade so it was cutting into him, mind you) but then in the last panel there is no wound the his throat but is instead on the back of his neck? And why is it so fucking big with blood splatter on the wall behind him, he was just cut, is it like some kind of future knife?

Also why did you delete my post on your blog you stupid comic book jerk? >:

wizbenny
Jun 8th, 2010, 12:40 PM
First off, it's a wound on the SIDE of his neck.

Given that this is a STATIC comic book and not an animation or movie, allow me to explain how a throat is cut.

You begin on one side and move toward the other, generally severing the windpipe and jugular vein, suffocating AND causing them to bleed out.

The jugular vein is a major arterie and it creates quite a lot of splatter. Further, bodies cut and thrown violently against a wall will tend to twist in an effort (since you're still conscious as you're dying -- it's not instantaneous) to catch yourself. That's instinctual.

Short answer -- it looked cool to the artist, so they drew it that way.

Also, don't know what your post was. The moderators there might have deleted. I did comment on Tadao's and he's followed me even over to Twitter. Perhaps they thought you were being a jerk?

I believe I've demonstrated I can take whatever you wish to dish with stride and a smile.

wizbenny
Jun 8th, 2010, 12:42 PM
Thank you very much. You'll probably enjoy all the articles here since you were born in 73.

I did enjoy that CRAZY video on the band Wayward Sons you posted as well. VERY funny. I will probably add that to the facebook fan page. It made me laugh.

And is that another "Old" crack? Sheesh. You guys are brutal.

Tadao
Jun 8th, 2010, 12:47 PM
Stalking is a hobby of mine. :(

Tadao
Jun 8th, 2010, 12:48 PM
No man, I was born in 70. RoG is a little younger than us I think, but is really fascinated with 80's toys and game. Our stuff.

The Leader
Jun 8th, 2010, 12:57 PM
thrown violently against a wall will tend to twist in an effort (since you're still conscious as you're dying -- it's not instantaneous) to catch yourself.
I didn't know he was thrown, I just assumed he had slumped down against the wall. It looks like his spine would have been severed from how deep and insane the wound is so I didn't even consider that he would be able to move. And his trachea doesn't look like it was touched in the last panel. :c

Perhaps they thought you were being a jerk?
Impossible! :x

I believe I've demonstrated I can take whatever you wish to dish with stride and a smile.
You know nothing of our ways, outlander.

wizbenny
Jun 8th, 2010, 01:01 PM
Stalking is a hobby of mine. :(

It's all in fun.

You guys probably get a ton of people who come into a forum, post their crap on your front door and then leave. I instead figure I'll get more usable feedback by becoming a PART of forums.

Yeah, I want feedback and eyeballs on my stuff. But even snarky comments are helpful.

I knew (and admitted) what I was getting into on this forum from a site called i-mockery. And it's been engaging to say the least.

You, for instance, were complaining about length of "set-up" before the action. That's something that does concern me. I also know that this isn't a space opera... although it starts out looking like that. So, it's interesting to see the general reaction in that regard.

I'm the kind of creative guy who thrives on the negative and just shrugs at the positive. Positive doesn't give me anywhere to go. Negative does. So that's why I have found this forum (so far) the most helpful.

No man, I was born in 70. RoG is a little younger than us I think, but is really fascinated with 80's toys and game. Our stuff.

That's why I jumped on this one. It was on my radar already. It's frustrating when you have ADULTS who work for you that don't get half of the references to pop culture that people our age might make. This is the generation that sees Hasslehoff as only the guy who drunkenly eats a burger off the floor and MAYBE remembers him from Baywatch. We know him as Michael Knight.

wizbenny
Jun 8th, 2010, 01:04 PM
I didn't know he was thrown, I just assumed he had slumped down against the wall. It looks like his spine would have been severed from how deep and insane the wound is so I didn't even consider that he would be able to move. And his trachea doesn't look like it was touched in the last panel. :c

Yeah, in 72 dpi, that line faded. It's there in the 300dpi version. It was faint there as well. I may have artists go in and correct... but I can see where it might be seen that way.

All in all, though, it is an achievable cut.

As Mark Gruenwald once told me, "The action in comics takes place between the panels."

The Leader
Jun 8th, 2010, 01:14 PM
You did the comic adaptation of Robotech: the Movie?! :O

wizbenny
Jun 8th, 2010, 01:58 PM
UGH... yes. It was a last-minute job I was contracted to do because the publisher was losing the license to Antarctic Press. We had no time and 2 issues (which is short for an adaptation)to (in Macek's words) "Fix this..."

I go into greater detail on an interview I did for some guy's Robotech site here http://mysite.verizon.net/rtcompanion/interviews/bennypowell.htm if you're at all interested.

I like Robotech, but boy did we get blasted for doing that by the fans.

The Leader
Jun 8th, 2010, 03:39 PM
I wasn't aware anyone cared enough about Robotech: the Movie to throw a hissy fit over the comic. Hell, I haven't even seen it. I know that there's a bike and something or other happens, but from what I've read that was the film's plot anyway.

Tadao
Jun 8th, 2010, 03:40 PM
That's the cartoon with Minmay always singing and shit right? God I hated that cartoon.

The Leader
Jun 8th, 2010, 03:43 PM
FUCK YOU > :O

The Leader
Jun 8th, 2010, 03:44 PM
But yeah, Minmay is dumb. :(

wizbenny
Jun 8th, 2010, 05:11 PM
The thing was a hatchet-job between Megazone 23 (a pretty crappy anime) and Southern Cross. It made literally NO sense. So the first issue was basically what little was salvagable from the movie, then we spent the second issue trying to give some sort of actual PLOT that would tie the two together.

People actually got UPSET that we "butchered Macek's vision" which was laughable, because Macek HAD no vision. That's WHY the movie was never released. HE knew it sucked. Oh well... fan backlash even produced a Mystery "Ruins" Theater (riff track style commentary) on both issues from some crazed fans. http://www.heavens-feel.com/elmer/sor.htm lists us if you're really bored.

People love emailing me links from time to time... just to rub salt in those wounds.

The Leader
Jun 8th, 2010, 05:32 PM
He knew it sucked because Texas preview audiences said so, and you don't mess with Texas. I'm just sad that Robotech: the Sentinels never made it into syndication. :<

Pentegarn
Jun 8th, 2010, 06:01 PM
Ain't it in the rules that you can't join to do that, the ones that you get a link to via pm when you join? This idiot should have been banned already.

You may be right (in fact I am pretty sure you are) but art and comics do seem to almost welcome that sort of thing based on how they operate

After reading this thread, I think this dude has potential as a poster of entertaining value. What sort of entertainment remains to be seen :lol

wizbenny
Jun 8th, 2010, 07:13 PM
He knew it sucked because Texas preview audiences said so, and you don't mess with Texas. I'm just sad that Robotech: the Sentinels never made it into syndication. :<

I think he KNEW it sucked too... they confirmed it.

I have a copy of the video here at the house (obviously) and man, we had to watch and rewatch that thing like crazy... it is beyond awful. And we had like 2 or 3 weeks to do 64 pages!!!

I didn't have time to write or edit anything, really. My "script" was basically stick figures drawn in tandem with the artist in front of a TV in my living room. Only time I ever wrote a comic on my coffee table.

They were literally INKING in the back of a van on the way to the Fed Ex at the airport with just minutes to spare. That's how close we were to the deadline. I think I made practically no money for all of that zaniness. But somehow, it was fun.

The Leader
Jun 11th, 2010, 06:59 PM
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s152/Leader1977/800px-Munificent_TCW.jpg

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s152/Leader1977/20100609.jpg

If your artists are going to steal designs tell them to at least take them from the good Star Wars films.

Pentegarn
Jun 11th, 2010, 08:33 PM
So what's that ship called anyway? The U.S.S. Blatant Ripoff?

Grislygus
Jun 12th, 2010, 05:58 AM
I didn't know he was thrown, I just assumed he had slumped down against the wall. It looks like his spine would have been severed from how deep and insane the wound is so I didn't even consider that he would be able to move. And his trachea doesn't look like it was touched in the last panel. :c

MAGICAL WINDPIPE REPAIR AND WOUND RELOCATION. SCIENCE.

Also, what the hell do you mean severed spine? Front of throat= slit

Grislygus
Jun 12th, 2010, 06:04 AM
At least until it the slash moved to left omohyoid and sternocleid-whatzit muscles.

The Leader
Jun 12th, 2010, 09:53 AM
Look at the frame where he's slumped against the wall and look at how deep the wound is on the back of his neck.

wizbenny
Jun 14th, 2010, 01:51 AM
Was that you who I emailed? Anyway. I replied, thanks for the catch if it was. It's being taken care of. An artist was paid by crew to "design" and he stole instead. New artist is replacing. But it was a good thing we caught this before going to print!!!

On the plus side, the new (original) design is much better now. Just means we have about a DOZEN pages already done that we have to replace the artwork on!

wizbenny
Jun 14th, 2010, 01:53 AM
So what's that ship called anyway? The U.S.S. Blatant Ripoff?

Nope, those are the U.S.S. Lazy Artist and U.S.S. Fired His Ass.

Blatant Ripoff was the engineer's name.

Pentegarn
Jun 14th, 2010, 06:30 AM
Wow Leader, you are now officially an unpaid editor/fact checker for this comic :lol

The Leader
Jun 14th, 2010, 12:55 PM
Maybe I could get credited when they print it! :eek

The Leader
Jun 14th, 2010, 12:58 PM
Was that you who I emailed? Anyway. I replied, thanks for the catch if it was.
Yup, it was. I was worried that you weren't going to see that I posted it on here so I decided to mention it on your site too.

Tadao
Jun 14th, 2010, 01:33 PM
This is comical.

wizbenny
Jun 14th, 2010, 05:22 PM
Yup, it was. I was worried that you weren't going to see that I posted it on here so I decided to mention it on your site too.

What, you think I'd "join just to promote my book" and leave? Heh.

Seriously tho... thanks. I will definitely give you a thank you in the book. Send me an email with your real name or whatever name (that's not obscene) you want to use!

True thing, that guy was PAID to "design" those... Those were the only elements from his tenure on the book (he was going to be the artist, but he split from his studio over his attitude... good thing) that we kept. Hey, we paid for them, they looked decent... why not? They only even appear in the first issue anyway.

Ah well... that ALWAYS happens when you try to save money. I'm sure I'll laugh more later. MUCH later.

Pentegarn
Jun 14th, 2010, 05:58 PM
This is comical.

Well I would hope so, this is the comic forum :lol

aaaaaaaaaaand

:rimshot

Tadao
Jun 15th, 2010, 12:37 PM
:youhavealittlecaptainobviousinyou

Pentegarn
Jun 15th, 2010, 05:00 PM
:ifnotdoyouwantone

wizbenny
Jun 25th, 2010, 03:16 PM
Hey Leader, did you see the changes to the ships?

The Leader
Jun 25th, 2010, 05:38 PM
Yup, why'd ya change the second one, did it look too much like the Nostromo's cockpit area? :O

You missed one page though. :c http://waywardsons.keenspot.com/d/20100614.html

wizbenny
Jun 25th, 2010, 06:57 PM
Both ships were "designed" (aka stolen) by the fired artist. So better not to chance it. Because they go to print. Now we know 100% these are OUR designs.

It somehow hadn't uploaded in the FTP update. Thanks for the catch. Re-upped it and is fixed now.

The Leader
Jul 14th, 2010, 08:43 PM
http://waywardsons.keenspot.com/d/20100629.html
Wouldn't it be harder for a large ship to land safely?

http://waywardsons.keenspot.com/comics/20100709.jpg
Stop ripping off Star Trek. >:

wizbenny
Jul 16th, 2010, 01:48 AM
http://waywardsons.keenspot.com/d/20100629.html
Wouldn't it be harder for a large ship to land safely?

The larger an object is, the less of it will burn up in re-entry. Also, it is more heavily armored to withstand that extreme friction. It would also be assumed that a lot of the same actions being taken by the crew of the Ulympea would also be taken by the Tytans... since the protocols and procedures in just such a crisis would be readily known by an Admiral.

None of which mattered, really, since they had all been altered by that point... so anything shy of decapitation they would survive. Which they're soon to find out.

http://waywardsons.keenspot.com/comics/20100709.jpg
Stop ripping off Star Trek. >:

No. LOL. My favorite response so far was someone said they shot milk out their nose when they read that line. That alone makes it worth keeping. Lactic acid nostrils are just fun.

The Leader
Jul 16th, 2010, 11:07 AM
The larger an object is, the less of it will burn up in re-entry. Also, it is more heavily armored to withstand that extreme friction. It would also be assumed that a lot of the same actions being taken by the crew of the Ulympea would also be taken by the Tytans... since the protocols and procedures in just such a crisis would be readily known by an Admiral.
I was thinking more along the lines of being able to control descent and maintain the ship's structural integrity under the effects of gravity. :<

10,000 Volt Ghost
Jul 17th, 2010, 03:38 PM
GRAVITY JUST GOT DENOUNCED. IRL

The Leader
Jul 17th, 2010, 04:01 PM
>:

Nick
Jul 25th, 2010, 07:23 AM
Dur hur Zeus is really from space. We get it stop dragging it out so long.

Nick
Jul 25th, 2010, 07:38 AM
ps: This comic makes me want to steal the concept and make a much better comic.

Pentegarn
Jul 25th, 2010, 02:15 PM
I know an artist who used to work for his comic you could hire to help you steal :lol

Nick
Jul 25th, 2010, 03:56 PM
Sounds great to me, as long as he steals from Star Trek and Star Wars while I write my ham-fisted Greek mythology meets 2001: A Space Odyssey fan fiction!

Pentegarn
Jul 25th, 2010, 08:57 PM
Ham-fisted is still a term that makes me :lol

wizbenny
Jul 30th, 2010, 02:25 PM
Absolutely Nick. Good on ya if you can do better.

Back in reality, I've returned from San Diego. SO tired...