Fallout: New Vegas

[Zomboid]

...comes out tomorrow. I pre-ordered the collector's edition a while ago, and I plan on skipping school to play all day. Excelsior!

[Fathom Zero]

Can't skip school. But I won't be doing anything else besides that and Fallout tomorrow. Excited as fuck.

[executioneer]

gwine pick it up at midnite, skip sleep

half tempted to wear my comicon vault suit costume when i go pick it up

[Fathom Zero]

DO EET

BE THAT GUY

[executioneer]

only this time, real weapon instead of cardboard hammer

[Fathom Zero]

and murder everyone in the store

[executioneer]

that MIGHT be taking it a little too far

plus it'd probably make jack thompson orgasm in his grave, i dont want that to happen

[OxBlood]

Hm...I keep hearing the game crashes quite often...can´t say I´m happy about that...

[executioneer]

i didnt have any crashes yet, but we'll see

[Zomboid]

Me neither. I pissed off the Powder Gangers, though.

[Zomboid]

ws-aXeeaN00

[Fathom Zero]

OH MY GOD IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME ONLY LONGER AND THE CHARACTERS AND QUESTS ARE MODERATELY MORE INTERESTING. More importantly, it's still Fallout. That's good enough for me. I'm wandering around getting on everyone's bad side.

Also, I'd install the game to mitigate the unbearable loadtimes. It hasn't frozen, but there have been a boatload of glitches. Nothing they couldn't patch up in a day or two, though. The quest you get from the guy in the dinosaur mouth was cool. Especially watching the end. I wonder if that one stray projectile will come into play later - maybe it landed somewhere.

Overall, I dig the environments way more. WAYYYY more colorful, which was the only thing that I didn't like about Fallout 3.

[Zomboid]

Yeah, it's still Fallout, so I'm also happy. There's supposed to be a patch tomorrow. I'm installing right now to combat the load times. I went and was killing all of those Powder guys in their prison place, and it said I failed a mission...so I went ahead and reloaded until I figure out what the fuck that's all about. Trying to hunt down this treasure that was mentioned in a note.

[Fathom Zero]

I've just been running around and exploring, doing a little bit of the main quest. I've got about fifteen active quests open.

I really really dislike that some quests are part of quests which are part of even more quests. Usually, you do stuff for somebody so they do something for you, then you go go back to the person that started to whole thing. They're not all like that, though.

My character Bill Sykes met the Yes Man and he laughed and laughed and laughed. Fuck, Obsidian's got some good writers. ALSO, I MET KRIS KRISTOFFERSON. :O

[Zomboid]

I got Ed-E! What a helpful little robot.

[OxBlood]

I was hoping that the writers that did Alpha Protocol did the writing here too cause AP had some really good stuff going on there. Happy to read that I was right aparently :)

I´ll get my copy tomorrow I guess. Funny thing is, the english uncut import-version is the cheapest. If I was totally stupid and wanted the german cut (no splattering and dismemberment at all, fuck that), I´d pay 20€ more (yes, twenty bucks more for less game). The german synchro (what´s it called in english, Dub?) is good but against the guys in the english one? Fuck no, I won´t play that in german. Ron Pearlman alone is enough reason to play it with the original voices.

The only question is...will I play as Doc Synder, menace of the wastes or Richter (yes, it´s even more fun for me to name someone Richter), Hero of Vegas first...

[Fathom Zero]

Aaaaand I'm calling it quits for the night. Nine hours is enough. Gotta pace myself - I beat Dead Rising 2 in two days. Hah. Games are damned expensive to a university student.

[Zomboid]

Yeah, I just stopped after 11. Totally skipping school today, though. I went yesterday, so I feel justified.

[Supafly345]

I had no idea this game was coming out so soon until I saw you mother fucker playing it. I looked for info on how good it was and found this immediately.
ToKIkw3LIoQ

[OxBlood]

That is fucking creepy.

"Hey fella, how ya doin? Don´t mind my horrifying rotating head of doom."

[Zomboid]

Holy shit, that's creepy. I've definitely noticed some bugs, but nothing that's stopping me from playing and enjoying the shit out of it.

[kahljorn]

i bet that guy gives great head

[Fathom Zero]

This game has moments of brilliance that are just shit on by all the glitches. For instance, many of my quests have map markers that are completely inaccessible and on top of mountains, usually. Fortunately, it's not yet required that I actually go to them as there's usually more than one way to solve a quest.

This shit's gotta get fixed fast, because it's just ruining the game for me. You know what it reminds me of? Alpha fucking Protocol. Bullshit.

[Fathom Zero]

Aaaaaaaaaand done. >:O

[OxBlood]

That was kinda fast...you just breezed through the main quest?

[Fathom Zero]

I beat Fallout 3 in two days... then continued to play it over three consoles for the next two years, beating it I don't know how many times. Story's a story. So yeh. But it was fairly epic. I decided to do what was probably the "middle-of-the-road" ending, and I'm not really spoiling anything when I say that I helped Mr. House. You have to help a faction take over Vegas, after all. He's a benevolent dictator. :)

Now I can start over and do things the propah way, lookin' in all the nooks and crannies for cool shit. I never found a snowglobe, either.

[Sam]

I've only found one snowglobe so far. :(

[LordSappington]

Anyone else get the fucking awesome orbital laser gun? Best 20 caps I ever spent.

[Fathom Zero]

Missed that. Got Deckard's Gun, though. Rather, the gun from Fallout 1 & 2, which was modeled on Deckard's.

[Dimnos]

I got this shit. Made my way to Primm or whatever the first town you go to (not the one you start in) then restarted. Then restarted again. Then again. I just couldnt make up my mind about what kind of character I wanted to play or if I wanted to be "good" or "evil".

I ended up playing a chick with energy weapons, science and speech as my tag skills (Are they even called tag skills in this game anymore? They dont seam to go up any faster than non-tagged skills.) and Im just doing whatever I want good or bad. Quest wise Im probably leaning more good but Im robbing the shit out of everyone all the way. I definetly hate the NCR (is that what they are called?) guys because I dont want no Johnny law in my wasteland but then the Leagon guys are all a bunch of fags too. :\ I thought I wanted to join up with the powder gang guys but once I got inside their base I realized they were a bunch of turd munchers playing at king of the shit pile so I killed them all except for the one guy you can hire to be sheriff. He seamed ok when he didnt pull a gun on me and just watched as I vaporized his "friends"


So are snowglobes like the new bobble heads then? I found one but didnt pick it up because I thought "I cant kill someone with that >: "

Whats the deal with books now? They arent permanent upgrades only temp?

[Dimnos]

Oh... Epic note. I cut a dudes arm off with a switchblade and he lived to run off. :lol

[executioneer]

the BOOKS are still permanent, the MAGAZINES are not

also the books are a lot rarer and give +3 instead of +1

[OxBlood]

@Dimnos:

Conercering Tag Skills, they only get a one-time 15point boost in character creation, they aren´t easier to level like in F1 or F2.

Just reached Primm myself. I decided to play a more or less neutral opportunist character. I steal whatever I can but I won´t kill a whole city full of people just because it has a funny name...it´s time I found some glasses though...picked the four-eyes trait.

[Dimnos]

Trigger discipline and wild wasteland are the way to go. :picklehat

[executioneer]

@Dimnos:

Conercering Tag Skills, they only get a one-time 15point boost in character creation, they aren´t easier to level like in F1 or F2.

Just reached Primm myself. I decided to play a more or less neutral opportunist character. I steal whatever I can but I won´t kill a whole city full of people just because it has a funny name...it´s time I found some glasses though...picked the four-eyes trait.

part of what i liked is the fact that you almost CAN'T just kill a whole town like you could in f3. I could kill all of megaton or three outcasts in power armour right out of vault 101, but in new vegas i couldn't even kill a bunch of elvis-impersonator dorks when i'd leveled up to about 10 because they swarm you the hell up

[Fathom Zero]

That and things really hurt, especially the giant radscorpions. I really don't fuck with them, and my explosives is at 100. I GOTS LOTS OF DYNAMITE. Kinda want the cowboy perk, too.

[Zomboid]

Oh man, the fucking giant radscorpions. I stumbled into one of their nests at around level 8, and I got destroyed. I couldn't take out deathclaws until around level 16, and even then, I was picking them off with a sniper rifle from very far away.

[Fathom Zero]

I'm trying to find an Anti-"Materiel" Rifle, though. Fucking thing rocks, more so than the Gauss Rifle I ganked off of some Brotherhood punk suckas.

[executioneer]

i've got the alien blaster for deathclaws but i don't want to waste it on anything less

[Dimnos]

I like how the radscopions are smart enough to run off and hide when you jump on top of a rock where they cant get you.

[executioneer]

i hate the hell out of cazadors, though now i've got good DR and a 10mm smg they're not so threatening (but they still kill me once in a while when there's a swarm of six or more and i'm not expecting)

[Dr. Boogie]

I'm trying to find an Anti-"Materiel" Rifle, though. Fucking thing rocks, more so than the Gauss Rifle I ganked off of some Brotherhood punk suckas.

The Fallout wiki had this to say:


The anti-materiel rifle can be bought from any of the gun dealers found in the Mojave, specifically the Gun Runners (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Gun_Runners)
The Gun Runner's kiosk has several rifles on display, including an anti-materiel rifle. However, its sealed walls prevents the player from pilfering them, and they are not guaranteed to appear in the sales inventory.
NCR Ranger Veterans often use them as their primary weapon. A source of Ranger Vets is Ranger Station Delta (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Ranger_Station_Delta), southwest of Hoover Dam (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Hoover_Dam).

[Zomboid]

I'm wearing the reinforced leather armor and combat helmet (with visor!) at level 22, and I mainly use the hunting rifle, .44 magnum, and caravan shotgun. I'm teaming up with the NCR, but I haven't attacked the BoS or done any of the Strip quests. So fun.

[Fathom Zero]

I got cheated out of the Master of the Mojave achievement. Eh. But I made it to Jacobstown. And met Lily. :lol

[OxBlood]

part of what i liked is the fact that you almost CAN'T just kill a whole town like you could in f3. I could kill all of megaton or three outcasts in power armour right out of vault 101, but in new vegas i couldn't even kill a bunch of elvis-impersonator dorks when i'd leveled up to about 10 because they swarm you the hell up

Yeah I also noticed that it seems to be a little more dangerous this time around. Not that I die all the time but I DID die, which happend only very rarely in F3 on normal.

I just finished the Dinosaur-Quest this morning and got my first packmule...err companion and house (the motel room does count as a safe house as far as I know). I want scopes and mods for my handguns though and I can´t find any decent traders around the wastes...only second rate fleamarket entrepreneurs...

[Fathom Zero]

Gun Runners has a couple.

[OxBlood]

They´re around Vegas itself, right? I still haven´t gottan that far north on the map yet but I guess that´ll be my homework for today. Another thing. The armor (especially the helmet) and the pistol from the cover...I guess that´s some kind of Vegas-Guard Armor and a modified .357 can anyone confirm that?

[Fathom Zero]

The gun just looks like a .357 Magnum Revolver, but I don't know what the duster and helmet are. It's not worn by anyone on the strip, at least that I know of.

[OxBlood]

Found the armor...in theory. It´s elite ranger armor and the gun seems to be either a modded .357 or the 44 magnum

[Fathom Zero]

Mmm. Never met one of them rangers before. Also, I got a snowglobe. And blew some poor doctor's head off because he wasn't giving me market value for my guns. Jerk.

[Zomboid]

The gun is different from both of those. It's the Rangers Sequoia or something like that, and it fires this harder-to-find ammo. I got one from Kris Kristofferson.

[LordSappington]

i hate the hell out of cazadors, though now i've got good DR and a 10mm smg they're not so threatening (but they still kill me once in a while when there's a swarm of six or more and i'm not expecting)
Dude, FUCK Cazadors. Eventually, I had to put it on Easy when they show up, simply because every hit would take my health down by a fifth.
Also, in F3, Deathclaws sucked, but at about level 20, I could take on five at a time and be allllright. I'm level 17, and even ONE Deathclaw can tear me a new one. I'm on a miniquest to take out a whole damned nest of them.

[Zomboid]

Yeah, the quarry. I did it with a sniper rifle.

[OxBlood]

Okay, I finally reached Vegas and got a Suite...though I don know...I like the Motel-Room better, it´s more compact and way easier and quicker to reach.

It´s interesting to see how useful Barter ans Speech are this time around which basically means I can´t finish some quests because I made my Char like a Fallout 3 - Character had to be meaning 9 Int and 1 Charisma...doesn´t help me that much here and man, there´s only 15 Perks I get to pick, should´ve thought about that a bit harder...

[Fathom Zero]

I like the perks that up damage percentages. The Entomologist helps with Cazadors, though, you only need an automatic weapon - you don't even have to be good with it, either.

[OxBlood]

I think the perk that I like the most is the Hand Loader perk. Getting more powerful ammo for free is pretty nice. I didn´t even pick the essentials like Finesse, Commando or Gunslinger yet because I just don´t know if I can afford wasting a Slot on something like that...

[executioneer]

fuck yes, they did the ending right this time. unfortunately now i realize i have to do quests for all the npc companions :( god DAMN there is so much game here

edit: omg wil wheaton and dave foley did voices? wtf wtf

[MrAdventure]

how many bottle caps do i need to spend to help ed-e keep out of melee range also will that upgrade keep him from randomly disappearing

also when do i get to the quest that stops hard locking the xbox 360 i couldnt find anything on gamefaqs

my character build is 5 str 5 end 5 daydream about murdering the people behind the QA bottleneck for this game and 10 luck im feelin lucky

i also want to thank them for the free quick draw perk it's nice not having the floating gun all the time (actually i'm serious about that, having the gun pop up when the left trigger is held is better in every possible way compared to gun on a stick)

[executioneer]

im sure they'll fix most of it in patches :( :( :( :( I STILL OVE THIS GAME

[Dimnos]

"Benny is going to show you the tops." :lol What a tool. I'm glad I got to carve up that dudes face while hopped up on jet and psycho.

[Fathom Zero]

Arcade Gannon is awesomely ~gay~.

And I don't have any of those problems you guys mentioned. Mainly, stuff spawns underneath the map for me, or there's some sort of singularity in the map that warps monster's models and kills them. Once, I shot a deathclaw and it floated up into the sky. It walked around for a while, only to fall down and die a bit later.

[OxBlood]

I seem to remember that there was a flying Deathclaw-bug in F3 too. It kinda ascended to heaven and then smashed down to earth again later.

I had two lockups and one texture-fail in my three days of playing the game. Picked up Veronica on the way, what a nice girl. Now I´m trying to do her quest along with the vault 22 one but I can´t seem to finish the quest cause I need to

incinerate the whole place but I don´t know how to survive the fucking blast. Maybe I need a timebomb or something and then lock myself in somewhere...


The only thing that really bugs me is that feeling of "there´s fifty thousand more quests for you to dooooo" looming in my mind...okay it´s just 136 or something, still. A lot to do. Then again, the first playthrough is just there to test the waters...

[Fathom Zero]

I'll draw you a diagram, hold on.

[Fathom Zero]

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/4434/vault22.jpg

Throw a grenade or shoot one from a launcher. You won't get burned.

[Dimnos]

The only thing that really bugs me is that feeling of "there´s fifty thousand more quests for you to dooooo" looming in my mind...okay it´s just 136 or something, still. A lot to do. Then again, the first playthrough is just there to test the waters...

This is sort of my issue too. I kind of want to blow through this first play through because I want to side with other people and try different things. I think Im going to do a few a few more side quests then finish it up siding with Mr. House this time. Next play through I think Im going Joe raider billy bad ass and siding with Caesar on hardcore and try to do everything. I also kind of want to do another run through with a non combat character. Just jack up all my speech and barter and charisma and try and rely on companions for bodyguards. That dude Boone should be more than enough. :lol

[Zomboid]

Yeah, I was planning on trying to do pretty much every quest and then just make different decisions on subsequent playthroughs, but there's just way too many. I'm gonna do the same as Dimnos for my next game and murder/enslave people left and right.

...is there an evil companion? Ed-E is pretty much neutral, but everyone I've met so far is more-or-less good. Boone is a fucking beast, by the way.

[Dimnos]

Boone kills shit before I even know its there. Ill be walking along, no red marks on my compass, out of no where a slow mo crit death scene! WTF?! A min later I find a dead body.

No idea on evil companions. Ed-E and Arcade maybe just because they have Enclave ties? On my current play through Boone doesnt really seam to give a shit when I kill or rob people. He just doesnt want to be friends with Legion. Or use brotherhood power armor.

[Fathom Zero]

No companion wants power armor. It counts as a disguise to them, so they drop it and it disappears. Same with Legion and NCR armor, I believe.

[Zomboid]

You can probably upgrade everyone's armor, though. I've got Boone wearing NCR First Recon armor after going back to Bitter Springs and fighting off a Legion raid, and ED-E has upgraded armor after bringing him to the BoS.

Boone doesn't seem to wanna use the sniper rifle I gave him, though >:

[Fathom Zero]

After you do their quests and stuff, they get upgraded. Same with almost every companion. I dunno if Lily has a companion quest associated with her.

[Zomboid]

There must be. I can't see them leaving one character out like that.

[Fathom Zero]

ED-E's is cool. So are Arcade Gannon's and Cass's.

[Mad Melvin]

Got the collectors edition last friday and been playing this since then. I played the shit out of Fallout 3, but New Vegas is so much better. If I have to say something negative about this, there seems to be TOO much stuff to see and do. It baffles me.

Just killed Tabitha and found Raul. I have Boone with me atm, so i'll have to make a choice. Boone is a crack shot, but on the other hand he is boring and always giving me shit about my shooting abilities. I'd much rather listen to Danny Trejo, but Raul is propably kinda shitty at combat.

[Dimnos]

Boone is almost to good. I haven't decided if he makes the game to easy and therefore boring. I'm seriously considering dropping his as off at the house and going on without him.

[Fathom Zero]

I think I've explored a single cave during the whole time I've had the game. It's time to go spelunking!

[OxBlood]

Found the safe spot and finished the quest :) My Ed-E Quest seems to be bugged. I took him to the Scrapyard, the old lady sat around, doing nothing. After a while she turned hostile and now she´s dead...hm, who cares, she seems to have the unique Sawed-off shotgun, fires both barrels at once.

Anyone know where I can find a better rifle for 5.56 ammo? The service rifle sucks and I have nothing else to use that ammo with apart from That Gun and I don´t wanna waste my repair-kits on that thing.

My personal revelation of the day was that Companions can´t die on Non-Hardcore. Nice.

[Zomboid]

Boone is almost to good. I haven't decided if he makes the game to easy and therefore boring. I'm seriously considering dropping his as off at the house and going on without him.

Yeah, I know what you mean. A couple of times I've found myself aware that there are enemies nearby (ED-E's little alert thing), and if I'm in a vault or something I sometimes just keep exploring and let Boone and ED-E handle it. They do it without any trouble whatsoever. Not sure if that's a good thing or not, but I think it's making me lazy.

[executioneer]

Found the safe spot and finished the quest :) My Ed-E Quest seems to be bugged. I took him to the Scrapyard, the old lady sat around, doing nothing. After a while she turned hostile and now she´s dead...hm, who cares, she seems to have the unique Sawed-off shotgun, fires both barrels at once.

Anyone know where I can find a better rifle for 5.56 ammo? The service rifle sucks and I have nothing else to use that ammo with apart from That Gun and I don´t wanna waste my repair-kits on that thing.

My personal revelation of the day was that Companions can´t die on Non-Hardcore. Nice.

well the light machine gun and the marksman carbine are pretty okay, i just used the varmint rifle with mods for 5.56 though because i found a low-light scope for it early on

[Dimnos]

I spent last night working for the King. Got the dog Rex. Hiked my ass all the way up to Jacobstown to talk to the Doc there only to be sent off to find a new brain for the dog. I hear the one that gives him extra health will glitch out and actually not give him extra health. Has anyone done this?

[Dimnos]

Just how fucking retarded is this Caesar guy? The guy has spies that have been following you around and he knows KNOWS that you have been working for Mr. House. Yet he sends you in to blow up the bunker in the fort and trusts that you do it just because you said you did?!?

[executioneer]

Just how fucking retarded is this Caesar guy? The guy has spies that have been following you around and he knows KNOWS that you have been working for Mr. House. Yet he sends you in to blow up the bunker in the fort and trusts that you do it just because you said you did?!?
well it does make the ground shake... but he does double-check after you leave the fort so he obv doesn't trust you TOTALLY

[Dimnos]

Oh does he check? After I came out he said the bit about the ground shaking then just gave me my shit and let me go thinking I would kill the guy paying me while he does nothing for me. I got the fuck out of that sausage fest.

[Zomboid]

I did the stuff for the Kings last night, too, and it was annoying because I had to kill some NCR troopers. I'm working for the NCR, so that little stunt bought me some infamy :(

Oh, and if you do like 3 quests for the Van Graffs, you can get in on a part where you can slaughter all of them and loot the entire shop. Loooots of guns and armor to sell.

[executioneer]

you don't HAVE to kill the ncr troopers :( also @dimnos:

it gives you (or at least it gave ME) that quest notification that you can't work for caesar ever again right after you leave the Fort after that

[Zomboid]

Yeah, but I killed Pacer myself and got infamy from the Strip. I was fucked no matter what, so I figured I'd kill some NCR people for sending me on such a stupid mission. I really dislike them now, and I'm looking forward to my next game so I can be evil and just kill as many as possible.

[Fathom Zero]

Depending on who you talk to about getting the Boomers on someone's side, that locks off working for any other faction.

[executioneer]

Yeah, but I killed Pacer myself and got infamy from the Strip. I was fucked no matter what, so I figured I'd kill some NCR people for sending me on such a stupid mission. I really dislike them now, and I'm looking forward to my next game so I can be evil and just kill as many as possible.
you don't have to kill pacer either. i don't remember exactly what's required but i remember doing a bunch of skill checks in conversation

[Dimnos]

For the Kings missions I dont think I had to kill anyone or even do any skill checks. It was a bunch of walking around and talking to people.

I still have the mission for Caesar where he wants me to kill Mr. House. Nothing is failed but I have yet to go see the Boomers.

[Zomboid]

Fuck's sake. I had to be the King's bitch, and the last mission involved helping Pacer fight NCR peeps. My speech skill is really low, so I might've missed out on a couple of things.

[LordSappington]

I spent last night working for the King. Got the dog Rex. Hiked my ass all the way up to Jacobstown to talk to the Doc there only to be sent off to find a new brain for the dog. I hear the one that gives him extra health will glitch out and actually not give him extra health. Has anyone done this?
I preferred the junkyard dog's brain; it gives him more attack. Really depressing when you get it, though. Poor Rey. :(

[Dimnos]

I got the brain from the Legion. Before the brain Rexs health was 242/242. After it jumped to 362/262. I thought it was current/max but I dont know anymore. :\ Either way he seams to be tougher and I see him in fights more so... Guess I cant complain.

@Zomboid... Before the fight were you able to go into the NCR safehouse where they were passing out food to NCR citizens? A few steps before the fight the King has you go talk to people in the slums about what the NCR might be doing in Freeside. Someone also suggests you talk to that one Dr. girl in the Mormon mission. If you talk to her she tells you about her NCR friend and tells you to go talk to her and say she sent you. The NCR girl tells you she sent someone to talk to the King but that they were killed. Pacer tries to pay you off not to tell the king so he is probably the one who killed the envoy. You tell the King they sent someone and he doesnt know anything about it and send you back to the NCR guys to smooth things over.

[executioneer]

I preferred the junkyard dog's brain; it gives him more attack. Really depressing when you get it, though. Poor Rey. :(
well in a way you're helping him live even longer, though, kind of?

[Dimnos]

That pretty much exactly what the Legion guy said when I asked for his dogs brain. "Lupa will become IMORTAL!!! Well... kind of." He then went on to say that if I butchered her with a machete I could have her brain.

[Fathom Zero]

I got bored and killed Caesar and everyone at the Fort with a Super Sledge, which is a billion times more powerful in this one than the previous. I would've thought that would get the NCR more on my good side than anything else. They stillwon't let me save their shitty president, though.

[Zomboid]

Damn it! I didn't go talk to that Mormon chick, but I saw it as an option. I went to the NCR food place and then back to the King. That'll learn me.

[LordSappington]

well in a way you're helping him live even longer, though, kind of?
I dunno; I think the brain is just a CPU for the dog, like Robobrains. I don't think it uses it for personality.
Either way, Fallout science can get weird.

[Zomboid]

Kinda reminds me of the part in Fallout 2 where you get a brain for Skynet, your robobrain companion. You could end up with a chimp brain :\

[executioneer]

rF80N2sxNLo

:x

[Fathom Zero]

Guess who's got all his companions.

[Dimnos]

All? I cant get Arcade to come with me. I passed his speech check and have done everything I can think of for the Followers. When I talk to him he says something about me having quite the menagerie and to come talk to him when I have done some trimming.

[Zomboid]

You can only have one human follower and one robot follower.

[Dimnos]

In your party at the same time? I get that. When I first went to him I only had Rex with me. I thought it must be some strange character conflict thing. So I took Rex back to Novac and had him stay in the room. Went back to Arcade and still no go. :\

[Fathom Zero]

He doesn't like it if you're in good with the Legion at all. So be sure to really piss 'em off before asking him.

Also, did you have a follower before and lose them? 'Cause they're still attached to you. As is any character standing in the Casino lobby of the Lucky 38, since they're not allowed in the penthouse and default to standing there. There are a couple other locations like that, if memory serves. It's just bad design.

[executioneer]

yeah, there's ways to correct that though. I think it was using the vault 22 elevator that was supposed to send all your companions to wherever you are from wherever they are? and if you asked them to wait for you somewhere, they'll eventually return to whatever their "home" is after a certain amount of time

[Fathom Zero]

Yeah, I lost Arcade somewhere, so I did what some other guy did and waited for something like four or five days. Eventually, they'll go back.

[OxBlood]

Ah, I just love the sheer number of guns in this game...I thought I´ve seen most of them but then new ones come up for sale and I gotta have them...thanks to Jury Rigger, maintaining the expensive ones is no problem anymore...

[Tadao]

I just started playing last night. YAY ME!

[OxBlood]

Huh...it doesn´t really speak for your qualities as a military leader if two strangers with sniper rifles can just walz into your tent and end your megalomaniac roman cosplay-act in under a minute, now does it...

If there´s one thing the post-apocalyptic future doesn´t need, it´s fucking romans.

[LordSappington]

Yeah, me and Rex just stormed the damn base and killed everyone, including some slave with a name that was being a dick.
Go chainsaw!

[Zomboid]

Yeah, they're not as tough as they think they are. Unfortunately, I beat the game with the NCR, so now I'm going pure evil with the Legion. Melee time :O

[Dimnos]

Yeah, they're not as tough as they think they are. Unfortunately, I beat the game with the NCR, so now I'm going pure evil with the Legion. Melee time :O


This is exactly what my plan was except Im thinking about going unarmed to check out all the special unarmed skills. I also I think im going to try it on hardcore too. I hope to kill every NCR i come across. :fu

[OxBlood]

Beat it a moment ago with a Vegas-Ending. Really good game, better than its predecessor. And now it´s time for Doc Synder do step up and take the Mojave for himself.

[Zomboid]

I helped the Powder Gangers take over Goodsprings. I smashed Doc Mitchell's head in with a shovel.

[Tadao]

I wonder if you have way less quests when you're a bad guy.

[WhiteRat]

I got into the strip by luring the stupid security bots away from the entrance, killing one, stealing the key, and then waltzing right in. It's great because every time I go into the strip the robots demand for me to stop but don't fire in time as I go in unscathed.

[LordSappington]

Finally took out those goddamn Deathclaws in the quarry. Thank God for that Anti-Materiel rifle.

[Fathom Zero]

Started a new game wherein I dumped loads of points into explosives, grabbed a bunch of C4, and killed Caesar pretty much out of the gate.

[Zomboid]

I used some C4 to kill a Queen Radscorpion. Haven't used the Holy Hand Grenades yet, but I pissed around with them before reloading. They're essentially mini-nukes.

[Zomboid]

I framed that Brahmin rancher in the UltraLuxe for the murder of his son, and the dialogue from the Securitron was hilarious. Good stuff. That whole quest is fun.

[Tadao]

I've been taking my time and doing as many quests as possible on my first character. I got to Benny and

if I strike a deal with him, his crew comes in the room and opens fire on me. Has anyone been able to make a deal with him and not have to fight?

[Fathom Zero]

Depends. Did you pass every skill check in the conversation?

[Tadao]

I tried every venue of conversation available to me, I think. I take it you fought as well then?

[Fathom Zero]

My first playthrough. Then the second time I helped him out, up 'til I took off his head later.

I can say definitively that you can get to team up with him, at least for a while.

[Zomboid]

I had him crucified.

[Tadao]

I must have been doing it wrong. :( Thanks, I just wanted to make sure that it can be done.

[Chojin]

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i see no need to actually play the game now

[Guitar Woman]

WASTELAND JUSTICE

[Dimnos]

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[Zomboid]

I love how it sounds like those hallway carpets are just filthy and covered in shit, or something.

[OxBlood]

I rerolled my Doc Snyder-Energy Guy and now I´m Mr. Gideon, homocidal maniac that speaks to his angry fists.
He basically punches people and is evil, that´s what I´m trying to say. Quite fun so far, destroying the good people of Goodsprings and siding with the Powder Gangers :) At the same time I´m pushing Speech so I don´t have to punch everyone everytime, very nice.

[Dr. Boogie]

I finally got this game yesterday and spent all evening playing it. In that time, it crashed three times, with two of them being BSOD crashes. Still, it keeps me coming back for more.

Early on, I got bored with helping the Goodsprings people, so I raided the prison down the road. There I am, enjoying the bloodbath when I get a message about some guy named "Meyer" being dead. Who cares? Then I find out they wanted him to be the new sheriff of Primm. Oh well, I'm sure they won't mind being under martial law.

Later, I walked into Cottonwood Cove in leather armor, and walked out with centurion armor, and no one said anything. Maybe they just didn't notice the bloody bullet hole in the back of the helmet, or maybe they thought their leader was just taking a nap.

Also, the cowboy rifle is kicking the shit out of every new gun I find.

[Tadao]

Yeah, the Cowboy Repeater was my favorite in the beginning too.

[Zomboid]

There's a few options for a new sheriff in Primm. I got a robot to do it the first time. I also helped the Power Gangers take over Goodsprings this game.

The NCR has declared me a terrorist, so now they're attacking me on sight. What this has resulted in is me wiping out a few outposts and the embassy on the strip. I also murdered everyone in Jacobstown with an axe. Same deal with the Brotherhood of Steel base, though that was definitely a bit tougher.

[OxBlood]

I just did Primm and the Jail too today. Worked for the Powder Gangers and got Meyer back as the Sheriff. Boone in Novac seems to hate me though cause the NCR can´t stand me...just because I murder their stupid Rangers with my Spike Knuckles...psh, sissies, they started it, I´m just fucking defending myself...by breaking their faces, true, but still, not my fault. They could´ve just handed the armor and guns over and walked away but noooo they have to get all bitchy and shit.

[Zomboid]

I just spent like 20 minutes blowing Raul sky-high with C4 over and over again. Oh, and I found and killed the giant Cazador.

[Mad Melvin]

I fucking hate cazadors. Aside from explosives, riot shotgun is pretty much the only usable weapon if you come across a large pack of those bastards.

In other news, I have been banned from two casinos for winning a shitload of caps. Gots me some implants and a huge boner.

[Dimnos]

I find the plasma rifle Q-35 Matter Modulator works like a dream on them. :)

[Mad Melvin]

I find the plasma rifle Q-35 Matter Modulator works like a dream on them. :)

I bet. Only problem is that my energy weapons skill is around 15. Never cared for them.

[OxBlood]

Yeah, Cazadors are about the most annoying enemy in the game I think, good job on creating a small deathclaw so to speak. I mostly relied on Veronica to distract them while I shot them with whatever normal gun I had. The Gobi Rifle works well of course, being about the most useful and powerfull weapon in the game...

But it doesn´t help that you can´t target their head due to a bug, unless they´re right ON you. Makes it a lot harder than it should´ve been. I wonder how my unarmed guy will fare against them.
I also noticed that for a unarmed-build that really only uses Unarmed as its only attack-skill, you don´t have that many specific perks to choose from. No Ninja, no Superslam, just Piercing Strike, Stonewall and Slayer. Paralyzing palm only works if you´re fighting with your fists, so that one isn´t useful either...Purifyer maybe but it´s only worth it for the Deathclaws I guess.
Well, that leaves a lot of slots for utility-perks. I took Terrifying presence, I wonder how that´ll work out.

Also, since my first Character had a Speech-skill of about 12, I can safely say: Damn, I missed a lot of opportunities, Speech is extremely useful :)

Though I do have a massive problem right now. I´m in Vault 34 and I´m fighting the "boss" there along with his 2 turrets and I can´t really reach them so there´s no punching them either...I guess I´ll have to leave, stock up on explosives and come back or something like that...

[Tadao]

I think my second character will not do 1 quest if possible. I'm just gonna run out to the hills, get exp via killing, then kill towns people. I doubt that will work. :(

[OxBlood]

It could work, though you would probably take longer to level since there´s only so much lowlevel enemies around until they respawn (if they do, I don´t know how the game handles that).

And of course you can´t finish the game without doing quests but you know that of course :D

One stick of TNT was the solution to my little vault-problem and I´ve arrived in Vegas once again, doing stuff for the Kings. I want the dog :D

[Tadao]

Yeah, I don't think it will work because I haven't found any respawns.

[Zomboid]

Cazadors seem to respawn, but I haven't really noticed a trend for anything else. There was one abandoned warehouse/boathouse or something near one of the large bodies of water, and it had a bunch of Cazador nesting stuff inside; that's where I go when I need a couple hundred exp.

Oh, and I mainly use the chainsaw with my melee/explosives guy. The special attack in VATS does a shitload of damage.

[Tadao]

I've been to that boathouse. I'll have to go back and see. My light machine gune makes short work of them. I'm sure I'll get tons of exp from killing people, it might be really tough in the very beginning though. I'm not sure how tough the town of Goodsprinf will be At level 5. Also I sure hope the robot doesn't interfere.

[Zomboid]

He actually shows up and defends you sometimes. He saved me from a giant radscorpion when I was way too weak to take one out.

[WhiteRat]

It could work, though you would probably take longer to level since there´s only so much lowlevel enemies around until they respawn (if they do, I don´t know how the game handles that).

And of course you can´t finish the game without doing quests but you know that of course :D

One stick of TNT was the solution to my little vault-problem and I´ve arrived in Vegas once again, doing stuff for the Kings. I want the dog :D

I had Rex as my companion throughout the game and the little guy can pack a punch. Although I was disappointed when I was ready to start the attack on Hoover dam with the legion that he wasn't waiting for me at the Lucky 38 like I told him too. Never saw him again. :(

[OxBlood]

I had ED-E with me in the Vault but he was lying around in shables most of the time...I don´t know if anyone can keep a companion alive on Hardcore for more than a minute...they die so damn quick...

Disappearing companions are really stupid, I agree...I think Dogmeat did that often in F3 too. Maybe it´s a dog-thing who knows. I hate that they don´t teleport to the Lucky38 but start walking towards it, that´s fucking stupid. Realistic but stupid. Just port them there, problem solved, nothing can happen to them.

[Tadao]

I gave Boone a Gladius Machete and now all her does is run into battle and get in the line of fire. He one hit kills a lot of people though.

[LordSappington]

Mr. House's ending was just plain disappointing. :(

[Supafly345]

Once again, I only get games after the DLC is all in one package... and the game is used.
Soooo, this game is sort of a give and take from FO3. They beefed up the levels, made the perks a hell of a lot better, and overall the character growth system is many times more enjoyable to make. However, the core of the game seems to have been diminished: the exploring. FO3's major strength over every other open world game of this kind was how fantastic its exploring was. Every dungeon had a distinct narrative, and there was little crap to discover here and there just for fun.
This game however seems to punish exploration, there is nothing to find. They have map markers to just mark areas in the middle of nowhere with nothing more than a boring dead body to populate it, and the areas that actually do have something only offer a tiny bit of consumables. The only good stuff comes from killing people, so scavaging through refuse is completely meaningless in this game.

Admittedly I've only been playing a about 6 hours, but it feels like they took all the comments and complaints about how to make FO3 better and used them to make a new game, but forgot to leave in all the stuff that was good about FO3 in the first place.

[Mad Melvin]

Once again, I only get games after the DLC is all in one package... and the game is used.
Soooo, this game is sort of a give and take from FO3. They beefed up the levels, made the perks a hell of a lot better, and overall the character growth system is many times more enjoyable to make. However, the core of the game seems to have been diminished: the exploring. FO3's major strength over every other open world game of this kind was how fantastic its exploring was. Every dungeon had a distinct narrative, and there was little crap to discover here and there just for fun.
This game however seems to punish exploration, there is nothing to find. They have map markers to just mark areas in the middle of nowhere with nothing more than a boring dead body to populate it, and the areas that actually do have something only offer a tiny bit of consumables. The only good stuff comes from killing people, so scavaging through refuse is completely meaningless in this game.

Admittedly I've only been playing a about 6 hours, but it feels like they took all the comments and complaints about how to make FO3 better and used them to make a new game, but forgot to leave in all the stuff that was good about FO3 in the first place.

I think you have a point there. When I was playing New Vegas, I didn't really notice the lack of those "mini-stories", like the robot in FO3 that sang lullabies to dead children, because the quests in NW were so much better compared to FO3, that exploring the world was kinda secondary. Still, NW is far superior to FO3, IMO, and i'm pretty sure there is a mod to NW which adds some random locations with some cool shit.

[Dimnos]

If you have it on hard mode and have to scavenge for food and clean water, scavenging almost becomes required. If you really want to get into the crafting, the game becomes a huge scavenger hunt.

[Guitar Woman]

Where do Rex and ED-E go when you dismiss them from your party? They don't seem to be at the Lucky 38 with my other companions, and otherwise I've got no idea where to start looking.

I wouldn't mind without them so much except that even with the Riot Shotgun and Reinforced MKII Combat Armor, Cass gets killed really really easily in high-risk fights, like the Legate clusterfuck at Hoover Dam. I don't want to use another companion because she's my favorite character in the game.

[Dr. Boogie]

I think ED-E goes to Primm, and Rex goes back to the King?

[executioneer]

my last playthru of this i reverse-pickpocketed a landmine into Benny's pants it was the best :sunglasses

[LordSappington]

I do not know how many characters I've played this game through with. It and DOOM II are my favorite games, ever.