NFL 2011/2012

[Colonel Flagg]

Let's talk some pigskin!

What's with Joe Banner? Did someone cut holes in his Dockers? He's spending Lurie's money like it was gasoline and he was driving a HumVee. And what are they going to do for DeSean Jackson?

[WhiteRat]

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Oh NFL, how we missed thee.

The lockout is finally over and everyone is ready for some foosball. The last week has seen a flurry of activity with free agents and undrafted rookies engaged in a spirited game of musical chairs of which the NFL has never seen before. Camps are now underway and out of shape fatasses like FORMER Vikings LT Bryant McKinnie are getting cut from their respective teams.

In case anyone forgot already, the Green Bay Packers (boo) won it all last year:
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Draft Recap
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Cam Newton (or $cam Newton as Bama fans will tell you) was taken number 1 overall by the Panthers, causing noted bitch-boy and former 2nd round pick Jimmithy Clausen to switch to Johnson & Johnson No Tears shampoo.

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Texas A&M LB Von Miller was taken second by the Josh McDaniels-less Broncos. He also tried to sue the NFL for the lockout shenanigans or something like that.

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Tide DL Marcell Dareus went to the Bills at number 3

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No Palmer no problem for the Bengals as they took Georgia WR AJ Green at number 4 and also took Palmer's future replacement Andy Dalton of TCU in the second round. Dalton's hair also matches his uniform.

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Arizona took LSU shutdown corner Patrick Peterson at number 5. Hopefully he pans out better than Antrelle Rolle who was taken high in 2005.

The Falcons traded up to get Julio Jones from Bama, who Tony Gonzalez is already saying "This kid Julio Jones is the real deal. He's the best incoming receiver I've ever played with. Come to think of it, it's not even close."

Young Qbs Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, and Christian Ponder went early to the Titans, Jaguars, and Vikings, respectively.

Also Nick Fairley went to the Lions, causing NFC North QBs to shit their pantaloons at the though of a Lions D-line anchored by Fairley, Suh, and Kyle VandenBosch.

The last player of the draft, Mr. Irrelevant, went to Cheta Ozougwu of Rice.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8pmMYveBJoY/Tb7zaSc2HEI/AAAAAAAAAFI/ZUYoPaMlRbQ/s400/cheta-ozougwu1.jpg

Godspeed, Cheta.

Notable Transactions
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CB Nnamdi Asomugha
Old Team: Raiders
New Team: Eagles

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WR Sidney Rice
Old Team: Vikings
New Team: Seahawks

Rice will be joining his bff and former Vikings QB Tarvaris Jackson in Seattle.

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Kevin Kolb
Old Team: Eagles
New Team: Cardinals

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Jason Babin
Old Team: Titans
New Team: Eagles

One year wonder ends up back in Philly where he palyed in 2009.

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CB Johnathan Joseph
Old Team: Bengals
New Team: Texans

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QB Matt Hasselbeck
Old Team: Seahawks
New Team: Titans

Keepin' the seat warm for Jake Locker.

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Barrett Ruud
Old Team: Bucs
New Team: Titans

http://i.imgur.com/BoH5w.jpg
Donovan McNabb
Old Team: Redskins
New Team: Vikings

I'm desperately hoping that last year's McNabb was a fluke.

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Reggie Bush
Old Team: Saints
New Team: Dolphins

http://i.imgur.com/XdI8b.jpg
Albert Haynesworth
Old Team: Redskins
New Team: Patriots

If anyone can whip this fatty into shape it's Belichick.

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Chad Ochocinco
Old Team: Bengals
New Team: Patriots

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Ronnie Brown
Old Team: Dolphins
New Team: Eagles

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Vince Young
Old Team: Titans
New Team: Eagles

Less pressure and a chance to learn from Vick on the bench.

New Coaches

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Jim Harbaugh
Old Team: HC at Standford
New Team: 49ers

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Jason Garrett
Old Team: OC/Interim HC Cowboys
New Team: Cowboys

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Hue Jackson
Old Team: OC Raiders
New Team: Raiders

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Leslie Fraizer
Old Team: DC Vikings
New Team: Vikings

http://i.imgur.com/ytxOT.jpg
Pat Shurmur
Old Team: OC Rams
New Team: Browns

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John Fox
Old Team: HC Panthers
New Team: Broncos

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Ron Rivera
Old Team: DC Chargers
New Team: Panthers

This took me too long to type up so you guys better enjoy it!

[Sam]

YEAH, LET'S GO BROWNS.

[Colonel Flagg]

I'm not going to quote you, WR, but good luck on the McNabb thing. He should do better with a few people to throw to, plus a running game. Peterson is still there, right?

Good luck with the new HC, too. I'll be watching with interest.

[k0k0]

YEAH, LET'S GO BROWNS.

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[WhiteRat]

I'm not going to quote you, WR, but good luck on the McNabb thing. He should do better with a few people to throw to, plus a running game. Peterson is still there, right?

Good luck with the new HC, too. I'll be watching with interest.

Yeah he's in the last year of his rookie contract. I have no doubts that he'll get locked up with a long term deal this season.

[All Hail Duke]

ok Raiders, please have a good season this year....or at the very least a halfway decent one like last year

[WhiteRat]

I think Jackson will have the Raiders in the playoffs within 2 years.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

http://i.imgur.com/lsqPA.gif

He's actually a Browns fan. :(

Whiterat, I wish you would post like this everyweek. I just caught up on more than I needed to in the nfl in less than five mins thanks to you.

[Pentegarn]

I think Jackson will have the Raiders in the playoffs within 2 years.

If Al Davis doesn't fuck it up anyway. The Raiders are where pro coaching careers go to die unfortunately.

New Browns coach makes me happy, regardless of who it is :lol

This has been an uber busy week, it is clear the owners really wanted things to get going again

[Womti]

RAIDERS ARE GONNA WIN THIS YEAR I JUST KNOW IT

[Pentegarn]

I assume you mean a game

[MailCall]

Bubba Smith passes away.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Legendary-NFL-defender-Bubba-Smith-passes-away-a?urn=nfl-wp4511

[Colonel Flagg]

Rest in peace, big guy. :tear
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[WhiteRat]

So who actually believes that Randy Moss is going to stay retired!





not me

[Colonel Flagg]

Sure he will, just like Brett Favre.

[Pentegarn]

He might, cause he has probably run out of teams who are willing to tolerate his shit

[WhiteRat]

He might, cause he has probably run out of teams who are willing to tolerate his shit

I was so excited last season when the Vikings traded for Moss. I always wanted Moss to somehow come back and finish his career in purple but I guess some thins are just too good to be true.

For what it's worth his arrival and quick exit helped Childress find his ass without a job.

[Colonel Flagg]

For what it's worth his arrival and quick exit helped Childress find his ass without a job.

No, he has a job.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/27867/Chili-BK_medium.jpg

[WhiteRat]

No, he has a job.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/27867/Chili-BK_medium.jpg

:lol

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Moss is gonna end up in the cfl.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

So who actually believes that Randy Moss is going to stay retired!





not me

Or even the
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[Sam]

Technically, this is the second time Randy Moss has quit football. The first was when he decided to play for the Raiders.

[Pentegarn]

Since it is pretty much a proven fact that Moss is a poison, I think even the CFL, the Arena league, WWE and American Gladiators won't want him even.

[Colonel Flagg]

There's always "Dancing with the Stars".

[Womti]

the's always the
http://www.cappersmall.com/nfllogo/miami.jpg

[Womti]

>: *there's

[WhiteRat]

No there isn't the Dolphins because they already passed on him. He retired to save face because not one of the 32 teams is interested.

[WhiteRat]

Ricky Williams signed with the Ravens.

First pre-season games this weekend.

[Fathom Zero]

As someone who's skipped a couple of seasons, is it alright to watch football again this year? Meaning, what's looking good for someone like me? Or is there nothing? :lol

[WhiteRat]

Que? I'm not followin ya, chief.

[Fathom Zero]

I mean, someone who hasn't been interested in football for a couple years. What (or who) should I be watching this year?

[WhiteRat]

I mean, someone who hasn't been interested in football for a couple years. What (or who) should I be watching this year?

Pretty much everything I outlined in my massive post on the first page.

[Fathom Zero]

OKAY

[k0k0]

Personally I'm like one of the wives or girlfriends who attends the football parties. I hang out with them and talk about things other than football, not really caring who wins or what quarter it is. I did used to really follow the buccaneers because of the whole pirate based team, but that wore off.

[WhiteRat]

Well if you have any desire to follow football again the Bucs would be a good team to follow. They have a shit ton of good young talent and a lot of cap space to snatch up a good veteran or two in the next few years. The Bucs are building the framework to make several playoff runs.

[Colonel Flagg]

Flacco comes home this Thursday. The Philly paper is all over it like white on rice.

Wherefore art thou, PacMan?

[Womti]

WELL, REMAMWEBER GUYS, THE RAIDERS ARE GONNA WIN IT THIS YEAR

[Sam]

GO BROWNS!

[Pentegarn]

GO BROWNS!

This

I get that it was preseason, but McCoy and Hillis played lights out in the 1st quarter. The 2nd string/3rd string held their own pretty well and I was impressed with how they were fighting for their spots in the depth chart. Of particular note I was impressed with 2nd stringer Smith's attitude, he was running out kickoff returns from 5+ yards deep in the endzone. He knew he had few chances to show off what he could do and he took them all. And as it turns out he got every return past the 20 so his chance taking paid off if even a little bit

[Pentegarn]

I mean, someone who hasn't been interested in football for a couple years. What (or who) should I be watching this year?

As Whiterat said, his opening statements were a good place to start. Preseason games are a good place to start because the players are rusty so seeing how the lockout is effecting play is interesting. Blown assignments, stupid penalties, and bad injuries will be the order of the day for the next few weeks

[WhiteRat]

I love how Jimmy Clausen was repeatedly booed by Panthers fans and even had them chanting "Cam! Cam! Cam!"

[MailCall]

Kerry Collins signs a one-year deal with the Colts. Is Manning hurt worse than reported?

[Pentegarn]

Sounds like someone is putting in for a year of leave

[Colonel Flagg]

Kerry Collins signs a one-year deal

Isn't he like 100 years old?

[WhiteRat]

Manning's backup Curtis Painter has been in their system for 2 years and they go out and get Collins. If I was him I would be huffin' and puffin'.

[Sam]

I'M GLAD THE BROWNS ARE KIND ENOUGH TO LET THE LIONS WIN, GOD KNOWS THEY NEED IT MORE. :rolleyes

[Pentegarn]

It is a scientific fact that the preseason Lions are unstoppable.

Then the season starts :lol

[Colonel Flagg]

The only preseason I remember the Eagles having a winning record was when Rich Kotite coached the team.

http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/863/PreviewComp/SuperStock_863-W149.jpg

Good times. :x

[MailCall]

Isn't he like 100 years old?

Dunno. But Reggie Wayne ain't happy about it:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Kerry-Collins-over-Curtis-Painter-Color-Reggie-;_ylt=ApmDVwhB9gPKXsUF0KbxE_xDubYF?urn=nfl-wp5814

Manning's backup Curtis Painter has been in their system for 2 years and they go out and get Collins. If I was him I would be huffin' and puffin'.

Painter never tore it up. But I think Polian and others really pulled the rug out from under him in this deal. Collins for 2 years might cost them Painter in less time.

[Colonel Flagg]

Dunno. But Reggie Wayne ain't happy about it:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Kerry-Collins-over-Curtis-Painter-Color-Reggie-;_ylt=ApmDVwhB9gPKXsUF0KbxE_xDubYF?urn=nfl-wp5814

:lol

[WhiteRat]

Dunno. But Reggie Wayne ain't happy about it:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Kerry-Collins-over-Curtis-Painter-Color-Reggie-;_ylt=ApmDVwhB9gPKXsUF0KbxE_xDubYF?urn=nfl-wp5814



Painter never tore it up. But I think Polian and others really pulled the rug out from under him in this deal. Collins for 2 years might cost them Painter in less time.

True dat. I just don't understand how teams can just basically give up on QBs that they have spent time and money on developing after only a few seasons.

[Colonel Flagg]

*cough* Kevin Kolb *cough*

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

My girlfriend just saw oakland raiders fans for the first time on tv and was like "Why is GWAR at the football game?"

:lol

[WhiteRat]

Real men wear silver and black

kSoFECqjS40

[MailCall]

It is a scientific fact that the preseason Lions are unstoppable.

Then the season starts :lol

It's early yet, but the Lions lead the Pats 27-10. Stafford looks good, the O-line for the Cats looks solid, and the seven Patriot defenders who failed to make the trip to Detroit are hanging their heads in shame...:\

[Pentegarn]

See what I mean? Science

[Colonel Flagg]

Lions win the Pre-Super Bowl!

Do they deserve a pre-Parade?

[Fathom Zero]

:lol

[WhiteRat]

Remember Kevin Everette? The Bills TE who was paralyzed during a tackle back in 07?

oI6uYJrIqaw

[Colonel Flagg]

Impressive that he didn't start lol'ing. I sure did. :lol

[Pentegarn]

Colt. Freaking. McCoy.

Win or lose this game I can't help but be impressed at his poise and awareness as a QB. Pulling a 40 yard pass out of an almost certain sack is impressive

[MailCall]

Colt. Freaking. McCoy.

Win or lose this game I can't help but be impressed at his poise and awareness as a QB. Pulling a 40 yard pass out of an almost certain sack is impressive

You guys face the woebegone Colts with John Kerry at QB. I think I might have the name of that QB wrong...

[Pentegarn]

You do, it is Carrie Underwood

[Pentegarn]

The Detroit Lions?!?! :confused

[Colonel Flagg]

Yes, the Detroit f***ing Lions. :eek

[Pentegarn]

Go Browns anyway

[Sam]

DEM FUCKING BROWNS, GODDAMN. :eek

[Pentegarn]

Bad news for the Browns this week is Peyton Hillis is out with strep, but that should be a one week thing so he will be back next week. Hopefully the Browns can overcome this week in the meantime and beat the Dolphins

[Pentegarn]

How about them Browns!

[Pentegarn]

Also, the 1PM games were all great, I didn't see one bad one

EDIT: By the way I am going to call it now, Lions Bills Super Bowl :lol

[MailCall]

By the way I am going to call it now, Lions Bills Super Bowl :lol

Don't look now, you don't seem so crazy. Throw in the Rayduhs while you're at it!

[Pentegarn]

Not really. The Raiders have sucked just as consistently in the last decade like the Bills and the Lions have. Sports are a very what have you done for me lately kind of thing. Since we are looking at the recent report card on these 3 teams compared to their current 3-0 record, I would say his comparison is apt. Besides, any credit the Raiders got with their one Super Bowl win is erased cause their fans dress like degenerates and they have a synthetic Darth Vader who shows up to their games.

As for Vick, there is a little something to what he said. The refs this year are calling every little touch a qb takes (see the Browns Dolphins game yesterday, every incidental bit of contact got a personal foul flag tossed on it). Vick is getting hit every play and he could throw his O-line under the bus and even be technically right is he had said so, Instead he took his hits and merely asked why every other QB gets the ref's protection, which is a valid question.

[Pentegarn]

My mistakes about a team who can't even stay in one city for more than a decade notwithstanding asshole (and believe me you have now officially landed on my radar, enjoy what you have wrought) my 'what have you done for me lately' comment is still valid. It is widely accepted by the experts, you smarmy fuckwad, that the shine has long since fallen off the Raiders coin. Don't believe me? Just watch ESPN or Fox Sports for more than 20 seconds when they talk football. Hell half the people thought they would lose to the Jets. So you can go fuck yourself there.

Furthermore dumbass, Vick is right about ref consistency. But not because he said it, just because it has always been that way in every sport. Refs are human, they make mistakes and they do show favoritism.

Just because I don't know, (or give a fuck) about your precious criminal organization known as the Raiders, does not mean I don't like football. The fact that I don't follow or even acknowledge the Raiders and their retarded owner shows I am a better football fan than your Raider loving ass will ever be.

[Pentegarn]

fav. book- I haven't read a book in years

In high school you were voted most likely to...- I'm not sure, I never went.



This shouldn't shock me either. 99% of Raiders fans are both illiterate and uneducated. Why should you be any different :lol

[Pentegarn]

Also you talk out of both sides of your smarmy little mouth. You say the Bills deserve no respect for the Super Bowls they have been in cause they haven't won them, then turn around and say the Raiders deserve respect for the Super Bowl where their over the Hill QB couldn't be bothered to remember what team he was on while throwing it to the Bucs a record 5 times. That's Alzheimer's for you :lol

[Pentegarn]

I won't totally dissect you this time. Now I'm just going to ignore your blatantly ignorant comments.

Cause you don't have what it takes to keep up with me. But by all means, keep up your unfunny attempts to be 'cool' and I will keep verbally beating you down

[Pentegarn]

And this is coming from a Browns fan? A team whose name is the same color as dookie.

I love how you call me a child and then this is your 'mature' reply. Way to be, champchump

[Pentegarn]

They aren't even the "real" Browns, that team is in Baltimore. So what were you saying about teams moving? Hilarious.

The Brown's didn't move you ignorant bitch, they were ripped from Cleveland by an ingrate owner and then NFL ripped the team itself right back. Think of it as a massive trade where all the players went to the new expansion team in Baltimore. If you're little comment were accurate, then why are they called the Ravens and not the Baltimore Browns? And you say I don't know football :lol

[Pentegarn]

So the child gets upset when he gets corrected?

For the record, it wasn't the 'corrected', it was the 'how you corrected' that got you this beat down. You are new here, know your place and stay in your lane bitch

[Pentegarn]

Now I'm just going to ignore your blatantly ignorant comments = I got nothing.

That's where the beatdown happened. If you had a pair you would have answered anything I said after your little tantrum about 'respecting the Raiders'. But you played the "I am going to ignore you' card. It means you are too weak and/or lazy to engage, hence you get beat. Live with it.

Where's your reply where I said you talk out of both sides of your mouth?
Where's your reply when I pretty much showed what a hypocrite you were by calling me childish and then dropping a 'same color as dookie' reference?
Where's your answer to the fact that you started this whole thing and are now being a whiny bitch about it?

Don't act hard till you are hard son.

[Colonel Flagg]

And I see Mike Vick is crying about getting hit late. Garbage. Blaming it on the Refs huh? Try complaining to your offensive line, asshole.

For the record, without him the Eagles are merely average. The fact he tried to do it all himself last year got him into trouble, which he fully acknowledged at the start of this season. And, guess what? He is getting hit late, and not getting the flag.

Also, for the record, if they had a former Eagle QB playing, he would have been all about throwing his O-line under the bus (he did it on more than one occasion). The fact that Vick isn't doing this is a testament to his being a team player.

Get your facts straight before you start getting all pumped about trashing a player. Dick.

[Pentegarn]

You have no class whatsoever. Flagg is the most educated and intelligent member of these forums. He is a freaking chemist, they don't let stupid people do that. Get your facts straight and learn some fucking respect asshat.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

At least the Raiders actually played in and won Super Bowls unlike the Lions. Or didn't choke in 4 straight Super Bowls like the Bills did. It's disrespectful to put the Raiders in the same class as those teams.

And I see Mike Vick is crying about getting hit late. Garbage. Blaming it on the Refs huh? Try complaining to your offensive line, asshole. Or maybe getting rid of the ball a little earlier? I seen NOTHING that other QBs don't have to deal with. What a crybaby, still blaming others but himself. I am glad this worthless germ is not on my team. He won't make it past week 7.

You need to learn to watch your lips you fucking shitbag.

[Pentegarn]

I am sure nobody here agrees with that claim. You're just making yourself look sillier.

How's this statement working out for you asshole? Cause so far you have few friends.

I feel bad for Flagg cause he has to share a state with this human failure

[Pentegarn]

That begs the question: why the hell are you here then?

That is a new brand of stupidity that makes a person willingly place themselves in a place full of people they claim they hate.

There are several possible reasons, such as:

1) you are a troll yourself
2) you are merely too stupid to understand you can just go away (I favor this theory)
3) you actually wish you were as entertaining as the average poster here, but know deep down you aren't and hope you will get some self esteem by association (the Pram Maven Theory)

Your stupidity is epic in scale. I could bottle it and keep MTV in reality shows for decades.

[Pentegarn]

Someone already PMd me and told me how many trolls are on this forum. I don't want those kinds of friends.

Since we are bragging about our private messagess, several people have given me green pickles for verbally beating you down, thanks for green points :D

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Haha, or what? Is that some kind of threat? It's funny how children act these days. I don't care about anyone who is a chemist. This isn't a chemistry topic. And I could care less about "making friends". Someone already PMd me and told me how many trolls are on this forum. I don't want those kinds of friends.

Who do you think is a chemist now? That's why I'm talking about you watching your lips. So you don't come off as stupid as you do.

[Pentegarn]

You understood it all just fine with your first reply in this thread where you were calling people dumbass and saying people's team sucked without provocation you fucking hypocrite. I provided reams of proof you were beaten and you just refuse to answer those questions of course. I notice it was all fun and games until you became the butt of the joke.

The moral of the story is don't dish it out unless you are ready to take it

[Pentegarn]

Who do you think is a chemist now? That's why I'm talking about you watching your lips. So you don't come off as stupid as you do.

He gets confused cause he starts 3-5 different fights then has trouble answering them. And the answers he does give are to the wrong person :lol

[Pentegarn]

No those are actual facts (other than the one SuperBowl thing, but I owned that) about what you see in a Raider game done in a humorous manner, you took them personally cause you have issues

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

He gets confused cause he starts 3-5 different fights then has trouble answering them. And the answers he does give are to the wrong person :lol


Okay, that makes more sense. I was going to say I know Flagg is a chemist and maybe thought he was talking about him but it was all lumped together in one paragraph.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

I love when new people start posting and find it obligatory to start waving their dicks around.

[Pentegarn]

We need to modify the BAPE emoticon to say EPEEN

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Yeah, but the dog pound was doing that to sneak in their own kegs to their seats. The Raiders fans just really like Beyond Thunderdome.

[Pentegarn]

Oh, so now it's about what you see in a Raider game? Nice way to change it up and ease off your statement. As opposed to the Browns fans/Dog Pound, who dress up as dogs and carry and eat dogbones and such?

They do. I am a Browns fan and even I wouldn't sit in that section. But the difference between us is I am willing to admit my team's fans have flaws (you forgot the bottle incident by the way) without taking it as a personal slight. Again though, that would be due to the issues you clearly have

[Pentegarn]

Yeah, but the dog pound was doing that to sneak in their own kegs to their seats. The Raiders fans just really like Beyond Thunderdome.

:lol

You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later

:(

[MailCall]

. It's disrespectful to put the Raiders in the same class as those teams.
.

Some FUN FACTS about the Oakland Raiders:
--One of their Super Bowl wins was during a strike-shortened season.
--Davis held the city of Oakland hostage because they wouldn't sink hundreds of millions into Oakland Coliseum for luxury boxes, during a recession that crippled the city. So, ala Art Modell, he moved the team to L.A....a move he planned from the start as shown in the antitrust hearings.
--Davis moved the team back to Oakland in 1995 after the Board of Supervisors approved a quarter-million dollar deal to improve the stadium--a deal which also included a training facility, free maintenance and operating costs, and a sweet rent deal...one of the cheapest ever.
--After arguing with coach John Gruden over play calling, Davis fired his coach, then covered it up by calling it a planned trade with Tampa Bay. New, Davis-approved coach Bill Callahan took the reigns, using Gruden's playbook and personnel, he led the team to their next Super Bowl. Where they lost to...you guessed it: the Gruden-coached Buccaneers.
--Raider merchandise sales peaked in the late Seventies and early Eighties...when the Raiders were involved in heated rivalries with the Denver Broncos and the Pittsburgh Steelers. But sales following the move declined sharply. Many claim this was another major factor in Davis' move back to Oakland.
--After Callahan's second season without Gruden's cheat sheets resulted in a losing record, Davis hired and fired a total of five different coaches in seven seasons.
--The Raiders' most famous addition to NFL lore and laws occurred in 1978, when TE Dave Casper faked trying to retrieve a fumble, kicking the football into the end zone for a TD and victory against the Chargers. The move became outlawed and to this day is referred to as the Dave Casper Rule.
--The current HGR and steroid issues prevalent in sports grew out of the Oakland Raider BALCO scandals in the mid-90s. The company provided such drugs to sports stars everywhere, but it took a class-action involving several former Raider players to bring it to the forefront.
--Since 2002, the Raiders have failed to finish higher than third place in their division. During that time, they have never finished above .500, only reaching .500 one time.

[Pentegarn]

I am gonna play your card Silver, how did I get schooled? Seems all you have been doing is getting mocked, and being proven to be an asshole who takes his 'lost my baby cause my sperm sucks' issues out on everyone when he should be looking inward as to why his dick is such a failure in life.

: pipebomb

[WhiteRat]

Dude you need to relax. The Raiders are on the up and up and with Jackson' hiring I can see them making a good playoff push this year if not making it next year (I mentioned that earlier in the thread). But you can not dispute that the Raiders have been abysmal from 03-09. You've basically outlined in your last post why the Raiders have fared so poorly in recent years so I really don't know why you are getting so defensive. Historically, the Raiders area successful franchise but as Pent said, It's a what have you done for me lately league. You can shout all you want and take shots at other posters' teams but that still doesn't change the fact the Raiders had a .349 winning percentage from 2003-2009. It's okay to admit that your team was shit back then, which is what this whole argument is about.

[WhiteRat]

People Raider bash because the Raiders deserve to be bashed for 7 years of ineptitude. Until they do something meaningful like make the playoffs people will continue to bash them, and rightfully so, if you ask me.

[WhiteRat]

Okay, I will ask again. When is the last time the Lions, Browns, or Bills have been to the playoffs? When is the last time the Lions or Browns even played in a Super Bowl? Never. I don't understand why everyone focuses on Raiders? I still am not getting any type of answer here.

Those teams have all been shit as of recent years but what it comes down to is those teams aren't run by Al Davis. The shit has flowed freely down from the top for the last 7 years. If you are still having a hard time understanding why people here as well as the rest of the NFL world laugh at the Raiders well then I really don't know what to tell you other than to take a deep breath and stop being such a homer maybe?

[WhiteRat]

I'm a Stephen McGee and Cowboys fan.

Men do what they want boys do what they can ya heard me?

[Pentegarn]

Okay, I will ask again. When is the last time the Lions, Browns, or Bills have been to the playoffs? When is the last time the Lions or Browns even played in a Super Bowl? Never. I don't understand why everyone focuses on Raiders? I still am not getting any type of answer here.

Nobody was 'focusing' on the raiders, if you read the NFL threads of the past, or any other sports thread, you would see we all make snide comments here and there about all the teams, and none, not one of us (until your whacko Raider fan goes Raider fan ass that is) went as apeshit as you did over MailCall and I making the couple of easy layup 'kooky raiders fans look like Madmax extras' jokes. Everyone says that everywhere by the way. You going to go to every sports forum and whiteknght the raiders there too? You must have little time for sleep/sex/eating/job if you are so damn busy defending the Raiders 'honor' ( :snicker ) from every detractor on the internet.

Be less of a bitch and you will be treated like less of one. Otherwise quit yer bitching when we mock you mercilessly for being the bitch that you are mmmmmkay?

[Pentegarn]

I never denied the fact that they were trash during this period. There is no way I can argue that. But the guy started talkin shit about them for no other reason than "the fans look like the Road Warriors/Legion of Doom rejects".

If you can't take a joke about your team, that is on you. If you take it personally and start dropping 'dumbass' bombs unprovoked, you will get your ass destroyed verbally in retribution. If you cannot handle these two facts about this board, I suggest you look elsewhere because you can't handle what the i-mock forums are about.

And of course I'm going to counterreact if it's a Bills, Lions, and a Browns fan. There is nothing you can say about them. Yes, they got of to a good start. Fitzpatrick is probably the most underrated QB of the last 2 years. I like him as a player. He's been doing big things, even against the Raiders. But we all know things can quickly change.

Don't you think that is a rather stupid statement to make? There are Buckeye fans like that and they make all the other Buckeye fans look shitty when they do that and I hate it when they do, just like you make Raider nation look shitty when you represent them like a 10 year old child would react to a joke. If you had real pride in the Raider nation you would have seen a joke as a joke, regardless of who made it, and not went all petulant child when the jokes were made. That, and only that, is why this has gotten to this point. I am tired of explaining this to you.

I just think it's garbage when people Raider-bash just for the sake of it. Especially when there have been worse teams in the past decade.

That would be like Jeffery Dahmer saying, 'I am tired of people trash talking about me when there are people like Hitler that existed' Just roll with what is said or go away, otherwise your time here will be you constantly getting hit with the worst comments people can think of to throw at you.

And I have been relaxed

No you haven't

I am not the one making personal attacks and making disgusting remarks. I have to defend myself, but I don't sink to those levels.

every time you tell this lie, I am going to post this quote


I won't even argue with your dumbass Vick comments. His concussion was caused by his own fucking player last week. I can tell you are not a football fan. And if you are a Browns fan, shut up. They never made it to the Super Bowl either.

So you can either quit your lying, or get used to seeing it as I keep posting it every time you lie

[Colonel Flagg]

I am a die-hard Philadelphia fan - baseball, football, hockey and even (excuse the expression) basketball.

I have had a coworker who was a die-hard Cowboys fan. We had a great love-hate relationship with both of our teams, and I exceptionally enjoyed talking trash (and sometimes football) with him over the years.

Where I used to work, I was friendly with a Rangers fan. Anyone who knows hockey knows how much Flyer fans hate the Rangers, and vice-versa. We too found common ground, and although we didn't have too much else in common, we could always talk hockey.

El Blanco was a former poster who is a die-hard Mets fan. No need to explain the hatred here, yet we always managed to keep it civil.

I have very little rooting interest or any other feelings toward the Lions, Browns, and Bills. Yet I enjoy discussing football with these guys, largely because it's mostly objective. They give me an impartial take on the Eagles and I can be impartial with their teams as well.

With all due respect, Mr. Fox what is your problem?

[Colonel Flagg]

At least the Raiders actually played in and won Super Bowls unlike the Lions. Or didn't choke in 4 straight Super Bowls like the Bills did. It's disrespectful to put the Raiders in the same class as those teams.

And I see Mike Vick is crying about getting hit late. Garbage. Blaming it on the Refs huh? Try complaining to your offensive line, asshole. Or maybe getting rid of the ball a little earlier? I seen NOTHING that other QBs don't have to deal with. What a crybaby, still blaming others but himself. I am glad this worthless germ is not on my team. He won't make it past week 7.

In case you may not remember, this was your first post in this thread. Not a "Hey, I'm a Raiders fan, and I think they've got an ass-kickin' team this year!" More like "You all suck and should choke on your own feces!" You came here trying to start a fight. Why?

[MailCall]

I love it when people chime in, and have nothing to do with the argument. And really know nothing about football. How long did it take you to do that google research? You just put your copypastas on the board, nothing special. You should've just posted the links, because you didn't write that and probably have no idea what it all means. The Raiders went 6-0 in the division last year.
.

Here is your first post on this thread subject.

http://i-mockery.com/forum/showpost.php?p=743784&postcount=73

Here is my post which caused it:

http://i-mockery.com/forum/showpost.php?p=743749&postcount=72

You got right on the defensive without real provocation. Everybody knows these facts about the Raiders, except, apparently for you. Since you like making assumptions about others, let me make an assumption about you: less than 30 years old?

[Pentegarn]

Last post on this and then back to football

Looking at a thread where we are yelling at a guy who got deleted from the forums makes us look like we are nuts and makes me :lol

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Why was Tadao's character deleted?

[Pentegarn]

Because willie didn't think it was Tadao's character

Like even a Tadao character would be caught dead in the sports forum :lol

[Colonel Flagg]

I don't think I've ever seen that before. Deleting an entire post history of a single individual indicates someone really circumvented something.

Makes one wonder.

At least we have all the post quotations to prove that we didn't make it all up, and the person in the sports forum didn't just disappear when we started to talk to them. That would be nuts. :JOAT

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Maybe he was in deep.

[Pentegarn]

I don't think I've ever seen that before. Deleting an entire post history of a single individual indicates someone really circumvented something.

Makes one wonder.

At least we have all the post quotations to prove that we didn't make it all up, and the person in the sports forum didn't just disappear when we started to talk to them. That would be nuts. :JOAT

I find your post funny sir, and will express this through a quote and literal public declaration of said fact.

[Colonel Flagg]

And I will publicly thank you for acknowledging my funny post with a somewhat less witty post of my own.

Do I need to spread my acknowledgements around before giving them to specific people again?

Oh the conundrums we create for ourselves. The horror, the horror.

[Pentegarn]

I look at it as liberating, I can now laugh at what I want, when i want, who i want

[Pentegarn]

Hear that (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/al-davis-football-pioneer-and-renegade-owner-of-oakland-raiders-dies-at-82/2011/10/08/gIQACEpBWL_story.html)? That (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/al-davis-football-pioneer-and-renegade-owner-of-oakland-raiders-dies-at-82/2011/10/08/gIQACEpBWL_story.html)is the sound of millions of Raiders fans screaming in pain for years, then it suddenly being silenced (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/al-davis-football-pioneer-and-renegade-owner-of-oakland-raiders-dies-at-82/2011/10/08/gIQACEpBWL_story.html).

[MailCall]

Well...I won't be attending the funeral, but for Al I will say this: at least he coached in his past. And I believe he really loved that team.

[Pentegarn]

You have a point. Most owners have no idea how to run a team before they buy it, but Al Davis managed to do that in reverse :lol

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Rip al.

Fucking love chris burrman

[Colonel Flagg]

Excellent job Eag's. Way to give the game away. I mean how many teams win while turning the ball over 5 times? Worst start since 1999. Yay team! >:

Kudos to the Bills for coming back after getting beaten last week.

[Pentegarn]

No offense but I wish the Browns had to visit the Eagles next week and not the Raiders

[Colonel Flagg]

Yeah, sucks to be you Pent. :rolleyes

[Pentegarn]

As I Browns fan I am inclined to agree

[MailCall]

As I Browns fan I am inclined to agree
More Clevetastic hijinks from those Brownies, compliments of DE Marcus Benard.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-browns-benardaccident

[Babs]

Cleveland Browns, The most snake bitten team ever. Just after 5 years when Art Moddell sold the team off to Baltimore, they won a Super Bowl. I feel so bad for the Browns, I might actually start rooting for them. Sucks even more for you Pent.... or maybe not?

[Pentegarn]

So I called the win by MSU a possible hosing, I would be remiss if I did not call the same thing for the Browns game. I am glad the Browns won, don't get me wrong, but there was at least one missed call and one flat out wrong call both in the Browns favor.

Of course, after all the Browns have gone through every year since the 1960s I find it kind of hard to feel bad about 2 blown calls giving us a win against a bad Seahawks team

That all being said, the Browns clearly need a better o-line

[Colonel Flagg]

I'm a little ticked off at the Eagles organization for hyping the piss out of this team, then losing the way they did 4 games in a row. This being said, I'm really enjoying the fact that they're kicking the crap out of the Cowboys right about now.

[Colonel Flagg]

Of course they'll now blow the lead in the 4th quarter.

[Pentegarn]

Or a measly 7 points of said lead anyway

I am just glad the Browns managed to lose by less than 2 touchdowns. The disparity between the NFC and the AFC this year is silly. The NFC championship looks to be shaping up to be the actual championship with the Super Bowl being a mere unnecessary game

[MailCall]

On a funny note...meaning funny outside Michigan...the Lions are the only NFL team that's losing money. It must be leaking out of that new stadium.

[Pentegarn]

It's leaking out of that new economy Detroit has. You know, the one where nobody who lives there is employed

[Pentegarn]

Colonel, what happened man, the Eagles had it. The Bears are who we thought they were and you let 'em off the hook! SWmQbk5h86w

[Colonel Flagg]

:wah

They took my heart out of my body, stomped on it, then put it back in, backwards. I only have two words - Go Flyers.

[MailCall]

The season is about as consistent as Ohio weather. So far, the Pack looks like the frontrunners, but they have holes at D--especially in the secondary. SF is 8-1, but most of their games have been very close. The AFC seems to be led by whoever the hell is peeking at the time...

[Pentegarn]

How bout them Eagles Colonel?

[Babs]

Can't believe the Bengals had the number 1 ranked defense for awhile and were posting a pretty hearty winning schedule. I believe both the Pittsburgh and Baltimore games were both very close and in the end both thrilling games to watch. Hope a Wildcard is still within grasp.

[Colonel Flagg]

How bout them Eagles Colonel?

:o

It's not yet time to jump back on the .....

GOOOOOOOOO EAGLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Colonel Flagg]

Playoffs, baby!

:rave

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Anyone else see the curb stomp that Suh from the Lions tried pulling on the thanksgiving game?

[Pentegarn]

See it? Even my GF, who hates pro football, saw it and was outraged.

Suh is a classless fuckwad and I look forward to the hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines he will have to pay for his future fuckwaddedness.

[Babs]

He's most likely just going get a 2 game suspension and some chump change fine.

[AChimp]

Hey guys. How about that Tebow? :lol

[Pentegarn]

He wins games he does. He wins them ugly but that W isn't any less of a W for it

[Babs]

So pent, how about dem bengals over the browns.

[Pentegarn]

Just one more bite out of the huge shit sandwich that is being a Browns fan

[Sam]

TASTES GREAT, LESS FILLING. :(

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

GOTTA FILL DAT GRILLE

[MailCall]

Hey guys. How about that Tebow? :lol

He's got Jesus Power!!


http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/5343/timtebowjesusjersey.jpg

[Colonel Flagg]

Fuck Andy Reid, DeWhine Jackson and Vince "4 interceptions" Young. Lose out, get a high draft pick and rebuild with a new coach. :explode

[Pentegarn]

:casey

[Colonel Flagg]

You understand. ;)

The only question left is who to pull for during the remainder of the season. I'm thinking the Lions.

[Pentegarn]

I was pro lions until Suh. Now I am pro 49ers and a bit pro Packers running the table so Favre's legacy is entirely decimated in a short 2 years :lol

[Colonel Flagg]

If I was interested in the AFC, I'd be looking to Houston as a rooting interest.

[Pentegarn]

The AFC isn't interestd in the AFC this year :p

[Pentegarn]

Except for the Broncos (aka The Saint Tebow Cathdral)

Is there even a reason to play out the rest of the Broncos games? Tebow plays for Denver therefore God himself does too. Let's just skip to the Super Bowl where he will likely win that too. I am done saying if Denver goes to the Super Bowl. After what I have been seeing from Denver, I am now saying when.

[All Hail Duke]

ugh, asses kicked by the dolphins

[Pentegarn]

Yeah I wish I could rub that one in Silver Fox's face, but he got banned for his rage flooding

[Colonel Flagg]

YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF RAIDER "HATERS"!

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Tim-Tebow-is-tattooed-as-a-centaur-on-this-gentl?urn=nfl-wp13419

Tebow tattoo :rolleyes

[Pentegarn]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Tim-Tebow-is-tattooed-as-a-centaur-on-this-gentl?urn=nfl-wp13419

Tebow tattoo :rolleyes

He keeps pulling these wins out of his ass like that and I may get a Tebow tattoo.

7-1 when every talking head was sure sure sure he was not the QB Denver was looking for.

How do you spell wrong motherfucker when you are Tim Tebow? I don't know but I am sure there's 7 w's in it.

[AChimp]

Tebow is one of the worst QBs in the history of forever. He's fun to watch, though. I think the football gods are just laughing their asses off by stirring up this kind of shit. :)

[Pentegarn]

Tebow is one of the worst QBs in the history of forever. He's fun to watch, though. I think the football gods are just laughing their asses off by stirring up this kind of shit. :)

I wouldn't go that far. Heck I wouldn't even say he is one of the worst QBs this year. He rarely loses the ball and he wins games. If you can do those 2 things you are pretty much set. You should look up Todd Philcox though and his act in a Browns game against the Vikings years ago.

He was so terrible I still remember his name and he played in so few games.

[MailCall]

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/871/tebowfather1.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/33/tebowfather1.jpg/)

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-miss-plays/09000d5d8255d978/WK-16-Can-t-Miss-Play-Jumpin-Jerome-Simpson?module=HP11_headline_stack

Front Flip + Football = touchdown

[Fathom Zero]

Seeing that on my big screen was aweeeeeeeeeeeesome

[Babs]

Yup, that's the bengals. Seeing as they lead he wildcard race now in the AFC. COME ON BROWNS, YOU'RE MAKING THE NORTH LOOK BAD!

[MailCall]

--The Pack now have HFA thru the playoffs. I'm not a fan of Green Bay, but I gotta say watching a bunch of games in a stadium NOT named after a brand of mayonnaise or a credit card company is a plus.
--The Bengals are shoring up injuries on defense in the wake of their crucial upcoming Ravens match. Meanwhile, players are appealing to fans to come out in support. Maybe they could start by being more appealing to fans.
--I guess a lot of questions will be answered after this week-end's games. So I think I'll just watch the Bengals/Ravens game and catch the rest of the scores on Yahoo.
--Lastly, as far as Denver goes, is New Year's Day. The good news for Tebow is that Elway promises he'll be around next year. And maybe Tebow will be, too.

[Pentegarn]

This is the most down to the wire I can ever remember it being.

Which is good

[Colonel Flagg]

Bengals win will doom the Jets which will make me smile. Can't figure out who I want to win the Dallas Giants game, as I hate both franchises. Probably leaning to the Giants, just because of the JJ factor. Neither should go far in the playoffs, though.

[Pentegarn]

Giants should win that game, they play a little better when it matters and that is important in this game. Tony Romo has a proclivity for choking that will be hard to overcome

[Colonel Flagg]

Agreed. They certainly showed that in the Jets game. ON the other hand, the Jets suck worse than the Cowboys. Still, it should bear more than a casual watching on my part.

[Babs]

Okay, you know I'm going to talk about this, inevitable. Bengals vs. Texans, I think the Bengals should definitely win this game, they'll have their shit together and have all the momentum and excitement on their side. Doesn't matter anyways, winner goes on to play the Patriots BUT GOD DAMNIT I WANT THIS ONE FOR MY LOUSY ASS TEAM THAT NEVER DOES ANYTHING

[Colonel Flagg]

Bengals 10, Texans 31.

Sorry about that.

[Colonel Flagg]

Did the Lions defense think the game was over at halftime or what?

[Babs]

Bengals 10, Texans 31.

Sorry about that.

Beginning to think I was as good as dead here.

[Colonel Flagg]

No, I'm a glutton for punishment.

[Colonel Flagg]

Atlanta is much improved from last year, but the Giants should be able to beat them easily, unless the same team shows up that lost to the Eagles in November. An easier call is Pittsburgh/Denver - the Stillers are the far better team on paper, and on the field. The only thing is if TeBow has another miracle comeback in him this year?

Here's to next week, which should have the much better games.

[Colonel Flagg]

[...] the Stillers are the far better team on paper, and on the field. The only thing is if TeBow has another miracle comeback in him this year?

Yes, that's what I said. Hoo boy.

[AChimp]

I think Tebow was hiding that throwing arm all season. I was expecting the Broncos to get slaughtered.

[Pentegarn]

The problem is that the Steelers tried to Tebow Tebow, and then got out Tebowed themselves in the end. This is why martial arts masters always beat the shit out of their own impertinent students when they challenge the master. You can't beat a master in his own dojo and you can't out Tebow Tim Tebow.

[Colonel Flagg]

You said "Tebow" 5 times in that last post. YOU HAVE SEALED YOUR DOOM!

[MailCall]

Holy sh*t...tip the hat to the 'Niners.

[Phoenix Gamma]

I vote Tom Brady troll of the year.

[Colonel Flagg]

Meh to both games. Bring on Green Bay and the Giants.

[AChimp]

How about that Tebow? :lol

Would have happened last week if the Steelers had been healthy and not trying to screw around.

[All Hail Duke]

green bay, what the fuck >:

[Pentegarn]

Turns out Defense does win championships, 75% of the teams left have great defenses.

Would have been 100% of them had Tebow had another Tebow in him this year though.

[MailCall]

Things seem to be falling right into place for New England. I don't have a rooting interest in the post-season from here on. The Pats have the O. The 'Niners have the D. New York has the momentum. And the Ravens have Ozzie Newsome as GM.:lol

[All Hail Duke]

go giants i guess,hoping they repeat in beating those queefs in the super bowl

[Geggy]

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Go pats! Bring another one home! The rest of the world can suck it

[Pentegarn]

Or lose to the Giants again so they can bring another public tantrum by Belichick home. Either or.

UD1GiJEi1cY

[Colonel Flagg]

Just saw Ahmad Bradshaw run for the go-ahead touchdown. The hot-dog move at the end, stopping at the goal line and falling backward into the end zone will probably make coach Bellicose lose sleep for about 2 months. And that is not a bad thing.

[Colonel Flagg]

Back to you, Pentegarn.

[Pentegarn]

Just saw Ahmad Bradshaw run for the go-ahead touchdown. The hot-dog move at the end, stopping at the goal line and falling backward into the end zone will probably make coach Bellicose lose sleep for about 2 months. And that is not a bad thing.

That was not a hot dog move, that was an 'oops I was hoping not to score just yet' move. Turns out he needn't have worried, but it was clear on that play that the Pats deliberately let the Giants score so they would have more time to score themselves. The Giants clearly wanted to do the old 3 runs and a go ahead field goal limiting the Pats time for a comeback even further though.

[Colonel Flagg]

They needn't have worried - their defense was stellar with only a few breakdowns during the game. Still, it shows again why I'm a better fan than a coach.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

During the coin flip too the patriots refused to shake hands. I hope next year they rename the team to the New England Hatriots because they are a bunch of haters.

[Pentegarn]

Are you surprised? They just follow the Hoodie's example. He stalked off before the clock ran out the first time the Giants beat them thus avoiding the good sportsmanship that the post game handshake would require.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Belichek is such a class act though. He probably had some fancy dinner party he was late for.

[Kitsa]

Nation Horrified by Carolina Panthers' Disturbingly Graphic Logo Redesign (http://www.theonion.com/articles/nation-horrified-by-carolina-panthers-disturbingly,27266/)