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Alxcipher
Nov 5th, 2003, 11:58 AM
I just got back from the cinema... After Reloaded finished I had a good idea what was going on. As far as Revolutions goes, I have no idea if I liked it or not, or understood it at all.
Anonymous
Nov 5th, 2003, 01:19 PM
The real question is do you care?
Snatchtastic
Nov 5th, 2003, 03:39 PM
This movie rules.
It makes up for those that hated Reloaded, but I liked Reloaded so fuck you America.
ShanghaiOrange
Nov 5th, 2003, 06:30 PM
Every third line in the movie was a question of 4 word or less.
O71394658
Nov 5th, 2003, 10:13 PM
For my formal synopsis: (perhaps minor spoilers)
Much better than RELOADED, but it still leaves much to be desired. The most non-conclusive ending to a trilogy I've seen. Seemingly, the Wachowski brothers didn't have the fantastic finish we've all been waiting for, so they kind of just lop it off. It kind of leaves you hanging. Almost like there's little closure. It's not like the end of the first one, with the "what's going to happen now type deal", it's just like a "that's it?" kind of ending. The thing I got to give RELOADED credit for is that the ending totally ruled, and left you hanging. This had nothing of the sort.
It seemed more or less like the W.B. had too much to jumble together, too many plots and sub-plots at the end, that they kind of tried to fit it all into one package and please everyone, but ended up accomplishing very little. They're seriously lacking in character development. Characters are introduced and lopped off with absolutely no warning (for example, there may be some sort of "major" character that you simply don't see again- for reasons unknown). Also, towards the end, the WBs didn't try to gradually wind down the plot. Instead, they had a consistently developing plot (more questions being asked than answered), until the last 5 minutes, when suddenly everything is supposed to ravel up into a nice little package. The execution was horrible. Not to mention so many of the important questions were left unanswered; the movie time was instead devoted to things that really didn't flow well.
Despite my harsh overtones about the ending, the entire movie was fun to watch (Although a bit George Lucasey for me at parts - trying to dazzle you with lights and special effects to take your mind off the important issues at hand). Very action-packed, and I would recommend watching it. But you just might be scratching your head at the ending.
(Note: Did anyone else find it hilarious that the only Asian man on the ship was the best "gunner" in the video game like sequence of killing the sentinels?)
Anonymous
Nov 5th, 2003, 11:35 PM
(Note: Did anyone else find it hilarious that the only Asian man on the ship was the best "gunner" in the video game like sequence of killing the sentinels?)
That was great. Even better, he got more screentime in the video game.
Don't get me wrong, though, the game was terrible.
whoreable
Nov 5th, 2003, 11:53 PM
I just watched reloaded. I love how they made such a big deal with the "TO BE CONCLUDED!" like I was supposed to give a shit or something. After the piece of shit reloaded was and how bad the inital reviews are I am sure not planning on paying to see this one.
Skulhedface
Nov 5th, 2003, 11:57 PM
Ahh... this one was supposed to tie up all those loose ends, but when I walked out of the theater, I had only reached one conclusion:
"WHAT in the good fuck just happened?"
Although... the action sequences (particularly Neo Vs Smith, the final battle) were pretty awesome.
Anonymous
Nov 6th, 2003, 01:37 AM
Although... the action sequences (particularly Neo Vs Smith, the final battle) were pretty awesome.
Are you kidding?
*SPOILERS AHEAD*
Them flying around punching each other through walls? That was some of the corniest crap I've ever seen. As I told Zomboid, it was just one fireball away from becoming DBZ. Plus, the whole theater was laughing at what I can only describe as the "face-punching animation."
And then Neo just gives up, and wins anyway. BS.
Still, I did like it better than Reloaded because it focused more on over-the-top action than inane philosophical drivel. Also, what other movie can claim a chase scene that involves the pursuit of a dirty hobo?
Snatchtastic
Nov 6th, 2003, 01:38 AM
I walked out of the theatre cracking up. I just got back from seeing it again, and it's just like any of the other Matrix films where the more you watch it the better it gets.
Besides the whole religious deal with Neo as a Mesiah and the sacrifice he made so that other people could live, to me It also had certain aspects of RETURN OF THE JEDI.
In the begining we have Morpheus and Trinity and Sarif who go to the Hell Bar to free Neo from the Marovingean, much like Lukes character saving Solo from Jabba the Hut. I chuckled when I saw the Marovingian cause he lo.Oked like the devil. Another scene was Niobe flying through the electrical tunnel in the Hammer much like the melenium falcon in the death star.
I know alot of people didn't like Reloaded maybe because it didn't have the same feel as the first one. I mostly love the first one because it's like your watching a live action comic book scene by scene. But thats something you cannot do, is make a sequel in part of a trilogy as good as the first. Since it opened a world that none of us have seen before, and Reloaded just delved deeper into the world of the Matrix.
The only thing I'm really pissed off with in this whole franchinse is why the crap didn't they release a character poster of Saraif for Matrix Reloaded? He was the coolest character from the show.
And why does the architect look like Colonol Sanders?
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! !!!
Mockery
Nov 6th, 2003, 01:38 AM
POSSIBLE SPOILERS BELOW
Just got back from the movie and I fucking loved it. Highly entertaining and pretty goddamned funny at points too. The very end scene with the sunrise 'n shit was corny, but I consider the real end of the movie to be the battle between Neo and Smith, and that was just fucking great. This movie was just too much fun and I can't wait to see it again. I'll comment more on it when I have the time to... right now I have to crash before work.
Oh and by the way... buy the soundtrack immediately because the music in this movie rules. I didn't think they'd be able to top the music from Reloaded, but they did and then some. Don Davis is my fucking musical idol right now.
-RoG-
Protoclown
Nov 6th, 2003, 01:41 AM
I just got back from the movie, and while it does have its faults, I found it to be extremely enjoyable and satisfying. I think on the whole I like it better than Reloaded, but I'll need to watch it a few more times to be sure. NOTHING beats the freeway scene in Reloaded though.
The first movie is still the best, but I think the trilogy came out pretty damn well.
Agent Smith and the Merovingian were fantastic, I was laughing my ass off just about every time they spoke a line.
Alxcipher
Nov 6th, 2003, 02:20 AM
The plot and ending were surprisingly similar to that of Dark City. Which was stated at the release of the original.
I also see the similarity in the blowing up the Death Star twice and the cracking up of Smith, again, twice.
I'll have to watch it again however before I fully understand the subtext.
One thing that I'm entirely sick of is the critics and their response to this film. They all seem to say "i understood it", "yeah I get it" followed by "but I didn't like it anyway". The one point I fail to see in any reviews is what it was about, or at least some hint that they have an answer. Instead it seems as if the film, in its complexity confused them so they just have to blanket it with a nod and a "oh sure I get it" with no explanation.
Snatchtastic
Nov 6th, 2003, 02:41 AM
OHRBRAAAAAAAAAAAWR WTf?/
I hate this shit, I just read about 5 lines in the paper about some jackhole just trashing this movie and giving the statement that Alxcipher just mentioned about "getting the movie" then thrashing on it.
Fuck one of the best things about these movies is you can annalyze it howeverthefuckyou want too, There is such a rich blend of Religion, Philosophy, Action, etc.etc that in a way it's not meant to be figured out as a whole.
Take what you want from the film that has a special place in your beliefs or whateveeeeeeeeeer!!!!
I loved Reloaded. I loved Kill Bill Vol 1. Ishtar was the worst movie ev4r.
Dole
Nov 6th, 2003, 11:36 AM
" The thing I got to give RELOADED credit for is that the ending totally ruled, and left you hanging"
-WORST
-ENDING
-EVER
James
Nov 6th, 2003, 12:10 PM
Garth Franklin (webmaster of Dark Horizons) usually gives reviews that match my own opinions perfectly. So when he doesn't like something, I take notice. I usually don't care for reviews otherwise.
http://www.darkhorizons.com/reviews/revol-n.htm
Film Review: The first Matrix may have been cliched but it took those old elements and reawoke them in a superb flick driven by an inherently interesting concept and good story dynamics. "Reloaded" had its moments of brilliance but to get to them one had to wade through many yawn-inducing fights and endless monologues about the nature of choice vs. fate. It was a very different film and all up a disappointment. Those hoping for answers in "Revolutions", or at least a worthy follow-up to the original film, are going to be left short changed again sadly.
Had "Revolutions" come out sooner, say July it would've been in better company for what you have here is a Summer blockbuster - and an very average one at that. The money is all onscreen, the FX from a technical point of view are utterly tremendous and visually it can't be faulted. However the scripting & dialogue is terrible, action scenes drag on well past the point of numbness and the cardinal sin of the whole thing is that by the end the audience is left feeling very cheated. Take away the pretty pictures and you have a film as equally problematic as other crap sequels this year ala "Bad Boys" and "Charlie's Angels" but without the playful sense of fun.
For all the complaints about 'Reloaded' being too high brow, the opposite is true with 'Revolutions' - there's almost no depth here. The first half hour is also the worst. If you haven't seen the first two films then don't bother trying to understand, hell if you haven't seen the second one again very recently its still going to be a tough slog at the beginning. From a family of programs in a train station limbo, to a new Oracle who gives her role dignity but lacks the quirky sense of humour so signature of her predecessor - its a class in exposition 101 with endless talking albeit very little said.
When things move to the S&M Club Hell (an interesting, albeit overly theatrical place), we once again meet the Merovingian - gone is the dangerous man with a taste of eccentricity, replaced by a Bond-esque olive-sucking baddie complete with trophy wife with just one line (although Monica Belucci's cleavage in this is the most impressive FX shot of the whole film). From there on things fall apart. Most notable is that the main stars of the movie go missing.
Maybe we've been spoiled by TV or films like "Return of the Jedi" or "LOTR: The Two Towers" where there's constant cutting between 2-3 separate subplots but its an effective storytelling method which helps keep the pace moving and add tension. Yet, for an hour or so in the middle of the movie we watch the defense of Zion - that's it. Sure Morpheus' head appears at times and Jada Pinkett puts in a far better turn this time out, but they're the B-story to what is one of the longest non-stop action sequences on film. Yes its random faces (such as the overly eager kid and the old warhorse general) in CG tonka toy gun suits shooting non-stop at squids. Its fierce and furious to be sure, and impressive but also exhausting and unrelenting to the point it becomes tedious. Zee and her butch army buddy (such a Vasquez wannabe) fire rockets and more rockets, the council ponders, the shooting continues, someone gets killed by the squids, something random crashes and falls over, on and on and on.
Eventually we get relief from this and go back to Neo, Trinity, the machine world and of course the much advertised dual of Smith & Neo in the rain. The exteriors of the machine world look superb, likewise there's a nice moment in this when Trinity sees a natural wonder for the first time in her life and comments on it before it slips away. Yet it also preceeds a moment of the film that whilst designed to be emotional, in actuality comes out laughable in the extreme for both what is said and how long it drags out.
Whilst the Neo/Smith duel again looks visually impressive, its also overly inflated. These guys can't hurt each other yet they continue on and on in bigger and bigger ways to the point where you are very much like - get it over with already boys. Indeed if there's one thing this whole sequence does well is that it inspires you to think about possibilities - not about what's happening on-screen but rather how cool would a Superman movie be using the filmmaking techniques used here. The ending I'm not going to even comment on, suffice it to say it renders the point of pretty much everything before it moot and cheats the audience - its a stop gap measure at best and leaves open way too many sequel possibilities for a film that it was claimed would always be "the last".
So is it worth seeing? Well for fans I guess. Whereas the action felt cartoonish in the second film, it does have more weight here and by setting things in the real world it does give it a bit more brutality and an effective sense of desperation at times - its interesting to see a movie where the idea of people hoping for a better tomorrow comes off sincere (for the most part at least). Bruce Spence has a nice little turn as a wild-eyed hobbo program named the Train Man, and Hugo Weaving does arguably his best baddie work yet as Smith. The main compelling reason though is eye candy - this is what $200 million and a whole lot of CG workstations can buy and filming techniques employed in these scenes will probably never be used again so for cinematographers and filmmakers of varying expertise who have a thing for visuals - Revolutions is your wet dream.
Sadly its just wet for the rest of the audience. Those who found 'Reloaded' not "sci-fi actiony" enough for them will get into this more - indeed its designed as more of a crowd pleasing film than the last one. Yet I honestly prefer "Reloaded" myself and think with the failure of many of this years crap sequels its been shown that people are getting tired of these bloated blockbusters with little or no point. Don't believe any of the talk from the producers that "this is actually the second half of one big movie" - tone and look wise this feels very different to the other two - far more glossier and vapid best sums it up. A fancy hollow ending to a film series which should've just ended at the first movie.
I'm inclined to believe him. So just like Reloaded, I'll be waiting for this one to be on TV, and no sooner.
Protoclown
Nov 6th, 2003, 12:34 PM
I can't wait to see that crazy Trainman as the Mouth of Sauron in "Return of the King".
Buffalo Tom
Nov 6th, 2003, 01:50 PM
What has happened to the Wachowski Brothers? They seemed to have gotten a bad case of George Lucas-itis. The parallel narrative threads of the attack on Zion and of Neo's journey to the final confrontation with Smith was so 'Return of the Jedi' I was half expecting the Oracle, Seraph and that irritating Indian kid to break out in that maddening Ewok ditty in the final scene. The dialogue was as corny as my popcorn, and just as fluffy.
The only things that made the experience worthwhile were the CG battle scenes in Zion, and Hugo Weaving's portrayal as Agent Smith (though, near the end, his performance was so near over-the-top, I was surprised that he didn't have a fake moustache to twirl between his fingers in a Snidely Whiplash-like gesture).
AChimp
Nov 6th, 2003, 02:33 PM
So, uh... can someone ruin the ending for me? ;)
Buffalo Tom
Nov 6th, 2003, 02:39 PM
So, uh... can someone ruin the ending for me? ;)
That chick in the movie? It turns out to be a guy.
OrganSplitter
Nov 6th, 2003, 03:13 PM
The trainman is the Gyro Captain
James
Nov 6th, 2003, 03:20 PM
Agent Smith finds his way into the real world, and uses his powers to destroy the Matrix from the outside. Neo sacrifices himself, and stays in the Matrix to attack from the inside. Trinity kills herself to be with Neo. Niobe finds out she's carrying Morpheus' baby, and the two decide to name it Thomas Anderson (Neo's name inside The Matrix). Let's hope it turns out to be a boy.
And yes, that is all made up. So don't shit your pants and get mad at me.
O71394658
Nov 6th, 2003, 05:11 PM
Them flying around punching each other through walls? That was some of the corniest crap I've ever seen. As I told Zomboid, it was just one fireball away from becoming DBZ. Plus, the whole theater was laughing at what I can only describe as the "face-punching animation."
I found this fight scene boring as well. Funny, I was also thinking it was live-action DBZ at its best (or worst?).
Alxcipher
Nov 6th, 2003, 08:05 PM
I still don't understand the ending. If anyone can explain it, please do.
Royal Tenenbaum
Nov 7th, 2003, 12:13 AM
"The thing I got to give RELOADED credit for is that the ending totally ruled, and left you hanging."
Are you on crack? The ending was a pile of shit. Ooohhh, lool, a slow pan down to a guy with a beard. Soo coooool it's krazy!
Alxcipher
Nov 7th, 2003, 12:24 AM
I thought the ending of Reloaded was great. It left it all hanging with many questions. Revolutions didn't however answer those questions.
Dole
Nov 7th, 2003, 04:34 AM
Yeah....questions like 'Why was the script/acting so appalling?', 'Why did I sit through this film?', 'Thats the end?? Are they taking the piss??'
So the ending of that film (reloaded) is essentially some bloke we saw in one throwaway scene holding a knife is .....a villian! And he is lying next to Keanu!! And whats more, to emphasise the fact this random bloke is a bad guy, we will play a little 'DA-DA-DAAAAAA!' musical sting! And then it ends.
BUNCH OF ARSE.
Alxcipher
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:20 AM
Or the parts of the film that ask, "how could Neo stop the squids in the real world", "Why is Bane still alive", "How did Smith get into Bane" etc etc. I guess you missed that. Pity, it was rather clever.
wreckreation
Nov 7th, 2003, 05:48 AM
MATRIX
Dole
Nov 7th, 2003, 10:16 AM
"it was rather clever."
Erm...No, it wasn't.
O71394658
Nov 7th, 2003, 11:00 AM
"The thing I got to give RELOADED credit for is that the ending totally ruled, and left you hanging."
Are you on crack? The ending was a pile of shit. Ooohhh, lool, a slow pan down to a guy with a beard. Soo coooool it's krazy!
I loved the ending. The whole architect theme brought in some interesting concepts. After the second movie was over, everyone was making conjectures onto what exactly happened. I'm not so much talking about the actual "Smith gets into Bane" parts, but the fact that the Architect brought an entirely new persepctive into the film was well done. Too bad the last movie didn't do a very good job of explaining anything.
Anonymous
Nov 7th, 2003, 11:42 AM
Yeah....questions like 'Why was the script/acting so appalling?', 'Why did I sit through this film?', 'Thats the end?? Are they taking the piss??'
I certainly took the piss. On that movie! *rimshot*
Seriously, though, looking back, it did raise some interesting questions, like "will there be a filthy homeless person in the next movie?", "will the final movie in the series actual tie up the loose ends of the story?", "whatever happened to Bill S. Preston Esq.?", and other such questions.
Tropical
Nov 7th, 2003, 11:44 AM
Spoilers*!!!!!!
The thing i'm most interested about is how machines and humans co-exist. Do they live together as friends, or do they mark up seperate boundaries promising never to cross each others land or mess with their business.
How Neo sacfiriced himself to destroy all the smiths were cool, cept... Smith copied himself to many normal pluged-in people of the matrix right? Couldn't the matrix can goto one of the fetal pods and electrocute that?
Nice touch on all the sentinals flying together to form a face.
Lot's of nostalgic memories of the first movie.
Ie. Battles with smith were similar, neo getting up from the ground with dust in his hair.
The deja-vu cat, and other little bits i can't remember now.
I loved the movie, glad they didn't explain it with the matrix in matrix theory. I still don't understand why smith gets neo powers by posessing the oracle. All she does is see the future right??? Not fly around... and describing Smith as a parrallel of Neo is kinda silly... i dunno... it's still beautiful. Yea my friend talked about how it's borderline DBZ. I'm dissapointed, many actors got like so little show time. I wanted to see more of the archetech merovingian and persephone.
I heard somewhere that in the matrix game, apparently when neo kissed persephone, they traded information or something... i dunno can anyone spoil the game pls?
Peace
Buffalo Tom
Nov 7th, 2003, 12:55 PM
How long will it be before we see 'The Matrix Musical Revue' on Broadway or on some stage in London's West End? My votes are for Robert Goulet as Morpheus and Sebastian Bach as Neo. Tyne Daly could play the Oracle, or that decrepit council member who yapped at Neo about destiny and shit while they were in the bowels of Zion.
Sam
Nov 7th, 2003, 02:40 PM
SPOILER MAYBE
DID ANYONE CATCH HOW AGENT SMITH CALLED THE ORACLE MOM??? :chatter
Anonymous
Nov 7th, 2003, 03:03 PM
Yeah, I caught it. Of course, the movie didn't go anywhere with that angle. I guess the brothers Wachowsky just wanted Agent Smith to look like a big digital version of Oedipus. Lousy mother fucker.
I wanted to see more of the archetech merovingian and persephone.
I agree. Frankly, I wanted to see more of Persephone, too, and I'm not talking screentime, baby!
Not that her boobs didn't steal the show enough when she was on camera, but still.
I heard somewhere that in the matrix game, apparently when neo kissed persephone, they traded information or something... i dunno can anyone spoil the game pls?
My pleasure. Neo doesn't appear at all in the video game. You do get to see both Ghost and Niobe kiss Persephone, but only to rehash that scene in the bathroom, where one has to prove their love for the other, and not to exchange information.
Also, to further spoil the game for you, the game was god awful and tiresome.
Alxcipher
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:28 PM
"it was rather clever."
Erm...No, it wasn't.
Well, that's certainly god-damn conclusive. You've made a believer out of me.
Immortal Goat
Nov 7th, 2003, 11:28 PM
How Neo sacfiriced himself to destroy all the smiths were cool, cept... Smith copied himself to many normal pluged-in people of the matrix right? Couldn't the matrix can goto one of the fetal pods and electrocute that?
I see your point, but I think I may have the answer. Here goes...
The machines couldn't electrocute any of the bodies in the tubes because they weren't linked in the same way. The body fields are not directly linked to the center of the city, otherwise known as the "source". Neo, however, was linked, not only to the Matrix, but linked through the actual "CPU", so to speak. Since he was a direct link, they were able to manipulate him in ways that were not possible out in the fields.
Dole
Nov 8th, 2003, 05:34 AM
"it was rather clever."
Erm...No, it wasn't.
Well, that's certainly god-damn conclusive. You've made a believer out of me.
I can't believe anyone takes these movies' cod-philosophy seriously. I have seen deeper meaning in 'Ernest goes poopoos'
Protoclown
Nov 8th, 2003, 10:50 AM
The ending of Matrix Reloaded was CHEESY AS SHIT. Of course, that's pretty much the whole reason WHY I like it, it makes me laugh.
The trilogy as a whole is nowhere near as strong as it could have been, it didn't live up to its potential that was hinted at in the first movie. A lot of the philosophical stuff was never explored, just brought up and then never touched again. So you have a lot of dead ends there. I think the Wachowskis tried to be vague on some things so you could form your own interpretations, but I think a viewing of all three movies closer together would be required to really find any hidden meaning in any of it.
I certainly enjoyed the trilogy, it was GREAT eye-candy. The acting for the most part was shit, Hugo Weaving was the best of the bunch. But I love the old Star Wars movies too and the acting was pretty much crap there too. Sadly, the movies don't have NEARLY as much depth as they seem to think they have, but that doesn't bother me but so much.
I like the movies, but as for the trilogy as a whole, it doesn't rank up there anywhere near the old Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Indiana Jones, Back to the Future, etc...
Spectre X
Nov 8th, 2003, 03:59 PM
Just back from seeing it. Holy shit. Awesomeness abound.
Ihach
Nov 8th, 2003, 08:50 PM
well i just got back from seeing and man did it suck, im really dissapointed. the battle for zion was cool, but man was the neo vs. smith thing retarded, i fully agree with the whole real life DBZ comment. so all in all, this series just got worse with each movie
Emu
Nov 8th, 2003, 10:45 PM
Everything was great except the Trinity getting killed part and the Smith vs. Neo part. I say the Trinity dying part was bad not because I like her, but because she talked a whoooole lot for someone with an iron rod through her lung. And the Smith vs. Neo thing was just retarded on many levels.
Alxcipher
Nov 9th, 2003, 02:56 AM
"it was rather clever."
Erm...No, it wasn't.
Well, that's certainly god-damn conclusive. You've made a believer out of me.
I can't believe anyone takes these movies' cod-philosophy seriously. I have seen deeper meaning in 'Ernest goes poopoos'
I saw the Philosophy as cogent and well done. I'm not sure how'd you construe it as stupid.
Rongi
Nov 9th, 2003, 10:43 AM
Oh I can see it plainly
Anyone who thinks Keanu Reeves is jesus is stupid.
HickMan
Nov 9th, 2003, 12:57 PM
Matrix Revolutions was disappointing, but it wasn't bad. It definetly didn't live up to my expectations. No agents. I would rather have agents fight in the movie then see three jillion Smiths do nothing.
CaptainBubba
Nov 9th, 2003, 07:38 PM
Saw it. It sucked.
THE END. >:
Mockery
Nov 10th, 2003, 01:12 AM
http://www.corporatemofo.com/stories/031109matrix.htm
Command Prompt
Nov 10th, 2003, 02:41 AM
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Nov 10th, 2003, 02:47 AM
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I didn't laugh that much, I wanted to see what it would look like.
Command Prompt
Nov 10th, 2003, 03:09 AM
Cool, I'm watching Reloaded right now, and I just noticed that the candy the Oracle offers Neo, is a red pill when she unwraps it.
Wonder what the hell THAT's supposed to mean :/
Skulhedface
Nov 10th, 2003, 05:05 AM
It means you do too many drugs and you need to knock it off, lest you start seeing pills floating in your Spaghetti-O's.
the_dudefather
Nov 10th, 2003, 05:23 AM
i love that spegetti-os mix, the only problem is i OD after about three mouthfulls.
deleeceous
Comrade Rocket
Nov 11th, 2003, 02:39 AM
I saw it. Action was good, Huge Battle in Zion was good. Kinda pissed me off by just giving me more questions, but it was better than the last one.
But during the Neo vs Smith fight, the only thing I could think was...
NEXT TIME ON MATRIX BALL Z!!!!!!!
I even thought at one time Neo was going to start doing a Kamahamaya Wave.
And the ending pissed me off, cuz a friend told me that the Matrix gets Formated and a new one is built but its all lord of the rings style...but you know.
Spooky
Nov 11th, 2003, 08:14 AM
It pissed me off because now I want to play that retarded fuckinggame so I know what happened to the Oracle to make her change "shells".
Other things (possible spoilers):
On the note of Oracles new body, I also was reminded of that when Neo was assimilated. Earlier, she claims "I may be different, but bits and pieces are still there", and it points to that when Smith says "Cookies need to be made with Love", and later says whatever the hell he says to Neo in the final battle where he goes "What did I just say?"
However, I went and saw it again, and knowing what happens, you can see alot of foreshadowing.
One last thing, when Trinity and crew are chasing the Train Man, who looks like a creepy homeless Jesus, the subway has a large poster of "Tastee Wheat" which is a fake product referenced in the first movie by that little perverted kid with the tommyguns.
Protoclown
Nov 11th, 2003, 03:38 PM
Don't bother playing the game, Spooky. It sucks, and they don't explain the Oracle being different any more in there than they did in the movie.
Command Prompt
Nov 11th, 2003, 05:26 PM
So what are you saying Spooky?
that we find out in Revolutions, the Oracle gave her shell up in Reloaded to save Trinity when she died in the matrix?
Thats deep. Or maybe its because the actor who played the oracle passed away before they were finished filming and they needed a quick way to cover it up. >:
This shell jumping has me more confused than I was when watching mission impossible 2. >:
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