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Ihach
Dec 2nd, 2003, 09:58 PM
What in gods name is the story on this game, i know at least james mustve played it. so is it worth buying or what? (ill buy it anyways)
EverythingWillSuck
Dec 2nd, 2003, 11:42 PM
IT HAS THREE SCANTILY CLAD POLYGON GIRLS DUH :|
SO WE ALL JUICE OURSELVES UP AND PRETEND IT'S JUST AN RPG
James
Dec 3rd, 2003, 12:43 AM
I played a demo, and I read a bit on it (though it seemed to have some minor spoilers, so I stopped). Reviews have been good as well.
The consensus from the reviews, is that the tone of the game is so much more lighthearted than past FF, though there still is that deepness of the plot and the emotions that shine through every now and then. This is the only thing I had to take from reviews, because I didn't get to see anything about the story from the demo.
It's not "girly" or "sex appeal-oriented" as many people had feared. I kept an open mind though during this whole thing, so many people who made up their minds when they heard about something like Yuna singing J-Pop will still hold those opinions and use them to make everything in the game reflect on them. Which is very easy, given the light-hearted feel of the game. There's not a lot to bring you back to the heavy tones present in past games, so your perception will affect how you feel about the game.
The gameplay is hectic. It goes back to the ATB meters, but there's no more waiting for one person to finish their turn for the next person to do theirs. Everything's happening at the same time. So there's a bit of strategy involved in when to make your move, setting up combos between your characters, and so on. It doesn't feel as turn-based as the past games have, which might make many people happy. But the frantic pace of the battles and the timing takes some getting used to, which I couldn't do when being thrown into a battle like that. The actual game prepares you better, I'm sure.
The Job Sphere system is interesting. You switch jobs classes on the fly, developing skills for each. Each job is complete with a Summon-Style cinematic, and a unique outfit for each girl. Just because it's called "Dress-Up," doesn't mean it's silly. It's very much like the job systems from FFV and Tactics, except you change jobs during the ongoing battles. According to the reviews, you'll actually WANT to get into random battles, just so you can switch through multiple jobs during the fight, and develop them more. And while I didn't get to spend much time with it, I can see why they'd feel that way.
The jumping and climbing is no big deal. At all. You can hold down Circle to jump and climb automatically when you come to a spot where you can do it, or you can just press it when needed. When not pressing it, you can't fall of ledges or anything. It just adds more depth to the environments.
The mission system is different. Not bad, just different. A lot of people didn't like how linear FFX (and other games in the series) was. If you're one of those people, don't complain about this. I haven't had any experience with it, but it doesn't sound like something to complain about. The system is also one of the things that reflects on which ending you get. Yes, there are multiple endings.
Oh, and the music is horrible, for the most part. It's not done by the guy who has done the music in the past. It's done by the team who did the music for The Bouncer. It's dreadful for the most part.
Not sure what else to say. I think the drastic changes influence a lot of people into being apprehensive, and maybe even to say that it's not as good as other FF games. But from everything I've seen so far, it's a quality game. And if you liked FFX at all, you'll want to at least continue the story by playing this.
Ihach
Dec 3rd, 2003, 04:33 PM
thanks james, i knew i could count on you, the music thing is a downer though, maybe itll be better in the final game, however all in all this sounds pretty damn cool
Emu
Dec 3rd, 2003, 04:33 PM
I haven't actually played it myself, but one of my friends owns it and I watched him play, so I don't know much about the gameplay itself. But, I can tell you that it reminds me a hell of a lot of Charlie's Angels. A whole god damn lot.
timrpgland
Dec 3rd, 2003, 04:34 PM
I'll buy and play through this although at first I wasn't sure. Gotta keep the FF collection going. Crystal Chronicles is taking a long time to come out... FFXII looks to have potential as well.
James
Dec 3rd, 2003, 05:40 PM
Now Crystal Chronicle is a game you sure as shit can avoid.
It's a Guantlet-style game, in which you go through levels hacking away at enemies. Strategy seems somewhat limited, aside from the fact that you carry around a magic bucket, and you need to stay inside of its aura so you don't lose health.
The point of the game is it's really meant to be played with 4 players, though there is a single player mode. But in order to play with 4 players, you need, 4 Game Boy Advances and 4 Game Boy/Gamecube Link Cables. That's a pretty tall order to ask of people.
There's not a whole lot of "Final Fantasy" involved in the game, so you should definitely rent it first, before devoting those $50 into it because it's a FF game.
But back to FFX-2. The Charlie's Angels similarities, to me, end with the fact that it's three girls. There's not a whole lot of needless flash and a convoluted shit story like there is in those movies.
Maybe in the full game, some of the music is better. But in the section I played in the demo, the opening game music was the only good thing. The battle music and music for the area were just bad.
And speaking of bad, Yuna's voice actor seems to have improved a little since FFX. But Payne's replaces her in that role. Everything she said in my demo was muttered, forced apathy. However, all she said was two or three lines, so we'll see.
The bottom line is, the game with worth playing. Even if you don't like it, or you have your apprehensions, there's a lot of stuff going on with this game, that you really should play it and expose yourself to the changes in the formula.
HickMan
Dec 3rd, 2003, 05:47 PM
I have never played a FF game and liked it. NEVER. >:
The way I see it is...It's the same gameplay, just better graphics and different charactes. The plot is just about the same, too. Some bad guy you know is trying to take over the world and you meet a guy, then a girl you just happen to fall in love with, and some more people that don't matter.
I just think the games are completly boring and just don't desirve my time. BUT THAT'S MY OPINION >:
Nerd
Dec 3rd, 2003, 10:08 PM
Goddammit James you just ruined my high expectations for Crystal Chronicals. :tear
I'm still going to buy it though. Being the Final Fantasy fan boy that I am, not buying X-2 or XII is kinda disapointing. Like Tim said, gotta keep that FF collection going.
Supafly345
Dec 3rd, 2003, 11:39 PM
I actually thought that the turned based thing was the best part of 10. More strategy is possible. And it was a welcom change over the overused ATB.
timrpgland
Dec 13th, 2003, 01:48 AM
Been playing X-2 and so far it is pretty fun. It doesn't seem like the epic-like tale that FFX (one thing I did enjoy about FFX was the story and ending) was but it is enjoyable. It is kind of cool seeing some of the returning characters. I was worried about this whole sequel thingy but seems like they did it pretty well with also making it a whole new game experience. I'm working on some different classes. Rikku makes a pretty bad ass white mage.
Perndog
Dec 13th, 2003, 04:15 PM
I didn't even know FFX didn't have ATB; I'm still on disc 3 of FFIX. :(
Remind me to finish that game someday.
Emu
Dec 13th, 2003, 04:26 PM
Finish that game some day.
Remind me to finish 8, 9, and 10 some day.
Perndog
Dec 13th, 2003, 04:30 PM
Don't finish 8, the only interesting thing in the second half of the game is the ending CG, and you can just rip that off the CD with a computer.
Ninjavenom
Dec 13th, 2003, 10:26 PM
Don't tell him that. >:
It has some of the best music in any FF game to date. It's way better than FFVII's, and only second in awesomeness to Final Fantasy Tactics.
Supafly345
Dec 13th, 2003, 10:53 PM
Because I heard it had tubular music is the entire reason that I played that game in the first place. And it is really all we ever discussed after playing it as well. "Dude, wasn't 'Eyes on Me' totally killer?" "Yeah bro, I was like, in a total emotional kind of stage and everything."
I agree, the compositions on the soundtrack are reason enough to purchase and complete FFVIII. :|
Cap'n Crunch
Dec 13th, 2003, 11:13 PM
HEY GUYS, CRYSTAL CHRONICALS IS SHIT BECAUSE IT ISN'T ON THE BEST SYSTEM AROUND, PS2. IF A GAME ISN'T ON PS2, IT FUCKING SUCKS.
Crystal Chronicals is supposed to have the same exact battle things as ANOTHER ONE OF JAME'S FAVORITE GAMES ON PS2. COULD IT BE KINGDOM HEARTS? I THINK IT IS!
Perndog
Dec 13th, 2003, 11:46 PM
I suppose...I'd forgotten about "Maybe I'm a Lion," which DOES justify making it to the (pathetically easy) final battle.
EDIT: Thanks, Rongi. I forgot to mention that. No matter how good the music is, the game still munches balls.
Rongi
Dec 14th, 2003, 12:48 AM
FF8 was the worst FF in the entire series. Even worse then FF2. I cannot see how anyone can even sort of enjoy the game, with it's bland teenage carbon copy characters and horribly shitty plotline.
Supafly345
Dec 14th, 2003, 12:56 AM
You just described 98% of all RPG's.
Rongi
Dec 14th, 2003, 01:02 AM
No, I just described 98% of all japanese RPGS :rolleyes
Supafly345
Dec 14th, 2003, 01:40 AM
My mistake. Then I suppose you described 94.34% of all RPGs.
Ninjavenom
Dec 14th, 2003, 05:08 AM
Stop being a penis, Supafly. The music in that game is good enough to justify spending a whopping $20 on. You just didn't like the game and would like to think it's because it was a bad game, not because you have shitty taste in RPGs.
James
Dec 14th, 2003, 06:41 AM
HEY GUYS, CRYSTAL CHRONICALS IS SHIT BECAUSE IT ISN'T ON THE BEST SYSTEM AROUND, PS2. IF A GAME ISN'T ON PS2, IT FUCKING SUCKS.
Crystal Chronicals is supposed to have the same exact battle things as ANOTHER ONE OF JAME'S FAVORITE GAMES ON PS2. COULD IT BE KINGDOM HEARTS? I THINK IT IS!
When did you become so retarded? Did you fall out of a tree or something a couple months ago?
Supafly345
Dec 14th, 2003, 07:30 AM
I added a little hint in there NinjaVenom that you could just get the soundtrack.
I actually did like the game, I just didn't notice the music. And in my opinion, it is plain ludacris to buy an RPG simply for it's music.
But, according to the experts, the fact that I liked FFVIII is the exact reason why I have shitty taste in RPGs. :/
Rongi
Dec 14th, 2003, 10:07 AM
shitty taste in RPGs.
What the fuck are you talking about? The FF series started to lose it's touch right after 7. As much as I liked 7, 7 started the whole trend of throwing in boring tenage characters with weird hair colors and absolute shit plot. FF9 was complete shit and the main character looked like the third Olsen twin who was outcasted because she had a tail. And FF10 can suck it. Tidus looks like a girl and there is absolutely nothing that seperates FF10 from the rest of the series. Same boring characters, same shit plot, same turn based elements, same random incounters, same shit you've played 10 million times before.
Anonymous
Dec 14th, 2003, 11:11 AM
And in my opinion, it is plain ludacris to buy an RPG simply for it's music.
One of the better spelling errors on the boards.
Supafly345
Dec 14th, 2003, 11:27 AM
How embarassing. Pardon me. Ahem, "It is plain ludicrous to buy an RPG simply for its music."
Ninjavenom
Dec 14th, 2003, 12:39 PM
But, according to the experts, the fact that I liked FFVIII is the exact reason why I have shitty taste in RPGs.
Now how on earth did you manage to make it sound like you hated the game? D:
I, though, do feel that if i think the music's good enough, it's more than worth buying the game for. Assuming you've heard it and think so, anyway. No sense buying a game just for the fuck of it.
Ronge, you're whining because you don't like the new character designer. Tetsuya Nomura does have some shitty character ideas, i'll give you that. They made me not want to play FFIX and FFX, but i'm going to eventually work my way towards those, because i hear that they actually weren't that bad. And yes, i am kind of disappointed with the visual direction the games are taking. I think that the old is fusing too much with the new, (see the FFXII screens, but i'm not whining about Ashe :love ) but soon enough i'm sure we'll have our old-school ones back. And to be fair, Amano did do some pretty ugly drawings, too.
Rongi
Dec 14th, 2003, 12:56 PM
i'm not whining about Ashe
Well, I love all of the FF babes. Square is excellent at making cute RPG chicks, but they're too good at it, which is why all the new main male characters are a bunch of pussies. The guy in FF12 looks even gayer then Tidus, and Tidus looks like fucking Meg Ryan.
Then again Auron was a badass :rock
HickMan
Dec 14th, 2003, 01:05 PM
Yes. This is what Rongi was talking about when he said the characters of the newer ones look like girls.
http://gamespy.com/previews/november03/ffxiips2/08.jpg THIS IS THE MAIN CHARACTER FOR FFXII >:
EDIT: SORRY RONGI :(
Rongi
Dec 14th, 2003, 01:06 PM
Did you even read what the fuck I just said you stupid peice of shit?
HickMan
Dec 14th, 2003, 01:09 PM
I WAS PUTTING THAT THERE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET, SORRY RONGI. :( I SHOULD OF SPECIFIED THAT. :( I'll reword it for you if you like. :(
ScruU2wice
Dec 14th, 2003, 01:38 PM
IS IT WRONG TO BE TURNED ON BY THAT PICTURE :(
Supafly345
Dec 14th, 2003, 01:52 PM
Now how on earth did you manage to make it sound like you hated the game? D:Thats something I would like to know too. All I commented on was the music really. Nothing about the game itself. But I could understand how a music buff would take a knock at the music as a knock on the game quality as a whole.
Anonymous
Dec 14th, 2003, 02:20 PM
Square is excellent at making cute RPG chicks, but they're too good at it
Although they kinda screwed up with the latest ones. Though I admit I've only seen the commercials, those are some unpleasant, and sometimes scary-looking, girls.
Rongi
Dec 14th, 2003, 02:28 PM
Are you talking about FFX-2? Rikku is cute :(. The new girl ( I forget her name ) isn't much of a looker though :/
Anonymous
Dec 14th, 2003, 03:08 PM
The one I'm thinking of is the blonde one from the commercial that looks like an 8-year-old raver. At the commercial's end, she dons a truly terrifying smile.
Supafly345
Dec 14th, 2003, 03:11 PM
Square is excellent at making cute RPG chicks, but they're too good at it
Although they kinda screwed up with the latest ones. Though I admit I've only seen the commercials, those are some unpleasant, and sometimes scary-looking, girls.
I haven't seen them myself, but on the other hand, I have yet to view any of the girls.
Ninjavenom
Dec 14th, 2003, 04:20 PM
You're thinking of Rikku, Boogie. Yeah, her smile is kinda creepy at the end of the commercial. Teeth are too white, i think. I think they're all cute, though.
Tidus looks like fucking Meg Ryan.
That's the truest thing i've heard all week. D:
ItalianStereotype
Dec 14th, 2003, 04:41 PM
fuck all of you, I've never played a Final Fantasy that I didn't like.
liquidstatik
Dec 14th, 2003, 04:46 PM
I was going to buy FX-2 the other day at Wal-Mart.... but I didn't. :(
Yay! :(
Nerd
Dec 14th, 2003, 04:50 PM
fuck all of you, I've never played a Final Fantasy that I didn't like.
:rock
Rongi
Dec 14th, 2003, 05:01 PM
fuck all of you, I've never played a Final Fantasy that I didn't like.
You liked FF2? What are you some kind of fucking massochist? And by FF2 I don't mean FF4
And shut up Nerd, you fucking sheep.
soundtest
Dec 14th, 2003, 05:07 PM
I agree with Rongi for the most part, except I think FFVII is way overrated. I blame it for this annually regurgitated 'thing' that FF has become. The chicks are hot and some of the monster designs are great, but the gameplay - or lack thereof - sucks and I will be happy when this series is finally put to death.
Rongi
Dec 14th, 2003, 05:10 PM
Amen.
Nerd
Dec 14th, 2003, 05:48 PM
FF2j wasn't that bad. The leveling up system kinda sucked, but the story and fighting system was pretty decent. It's okay, but I don't hate it.
Boy, I never get tired of the Final Fantasy bashing threads...I swear, there's a new one every week...
Emu
Dec 14th, 2003, 05:54 PM
FF3j is pretty good :(
Rongi
Dec 14th, 2003, 06:11 PM
The leveling up system kinda sucked
That's like saying "Hitler was kinda mean to the jews"
ItalianStereotype
Dec 14th, 2003, 07:46 PM
maybe I am a fucking masochist, but maybe I'm just someone who doesn't expect a magnum opus from every single game I play. you enjoy some Final Fantasy games, so why don't you just play the ones you like instead of bitching about all of them? purple assfucking christ, you need to stop whining like fanboys.
Rongi
Dec 14th, 2003, 07:53 PM
maybe I am a fucking masochist, but maybe I'm just someone who doesn't expect a magnum opus from every single game I play.
I wasn't expecting a magnum opus, I was expecting an enjoyable game, and it wasn't even enjoyable. It was about as much fun as sticking needles into your corneas and being fucked in the ear by Ron Jeremy who hasn't bathed in 6 weeks.
so why don't you just play the ones you like instead of bitching about all of them?
...I do play the ones I like. And I'm not bitching, I'm just saying the the FF series is like a dying dog that just needs to be put to sleep.
soundtest
Dec 14th, 2003, 07:55 PM
It's called an opinion asshole. Takes Squaresoft's collective cock out of your fucking ear and realize it's just as valid as yours.
I've never played a Final Fantasy that I didn't like.
And I'm the fanboy.
ItalianStereotype
Dec 14th, 2003, 08:13 PM
get the fuck over yourself, soundtest. I was only commenting on the unnecessary amount of BITCHING in this thread. nothing was directed at you, stupid cunt. yeah, I've never played a FF game that I didn't like, but that doesn't mean I've played EVERY one of them, so fuck off.
Cap'n Crunch
Dec 14th, 2003, 08:34 PM
When did you become so retarded? Did you fall out of a tree or something a couple months ago?
GOOD ONE JAMES. I am just sick of you writing 6 or 7 paragraphs about how every Playstation 2 game is better than the games on anyother system. Like, in this thread, you posted about 3 or 4 of them when someone says the game doesn't look as well or doesn't compare to a certain game.
soundtest
Dec 14th, 2003, 08:38 PM
get the fuck over yourself, soundtest. I was only commenting on the unnecessary amount of BITCHING in this thread. nothing was directed at you, stupid cunt. yeah, I've never played a FF game that I didn't like, but that doesn't mean I've played EVERY one of them, so fuck off.
If anyone needs to 'get over themselves', it's you King Faggotti. Just because this thread isn't 30 replies of: "FF is great! :) " "Yea FF is so badass!!" and somebody has an opinion that differs from yours doesn't mean they are bitching, and how they can be called a fanboy is beyond me. No need to cry though toughguy - I'm sure there will be at least another 10 sequels of ultimately the same, boring game for you and the herds to throw money at and wank over.
Ihach
Dec 14th, 2003, 08:38 PM
im going to have to stand by chainsawsmash on this one, i never met an FF i didnt like, which includes 5,6,7,8,9,10, tactics. i wasnt a huge fan of 9, but it was still fun, and an interesting game to play. as for ff8, it was awesome the first time through. i enjoyed the story, all the CGS, which were awesome for the time, and it had the greatest mini game ever, the card game! on later play throughs the draw system gets a little old, but i mean the first time you do the assassination of edea? too cool. as for FFX, i dont see what the problem is. incredible graphics, awesome music, some cool characters, new fight system, new and extremely varied enemies, whats the problem here!? and ninjavenom is right, tactics kicked ass in too many ways to count
Nerd
Dec 14th, 2003, 08:49 PM
If anyone needs to 'get over themselves', it's you King Faggotti. Just because this thread isn't 30 replies of: "FF is great! :) " "Yea FF is so badass!!" and somebody has an opinion that differs from yours doesn't mean they are bitching, and how they can be called a fanboy is beyond me. No need to cry though toughguy - I'm sure there will be at least another 10 sequels of ultimately the same, boring game for you and the herds to throw money at and wank over.
Fuck you. I may be a fan of the series, but I won't buy a game that I wouldn't like. I didn't get X-2 or XI, and I'm not sure about XII. Not all Final Fantasy fans are hopeless fanboys.
Rongi
Dec 14th, 2003, 08:55 PM
Coming from the guy who wanks it to Misty from pokemon. Just admit you're a god damn loser and a fan boy and shut the fuck up Nerd.
incredible graphics, awesome music, some cool characters, new fight system, new and extremely varied enemies
I am baffled by "new fight system". Even the most hard assed stubborn FF 'fan' will admit that there has been no real change in the FF series whatsoever. The only changes I recognized are the summoning (which isn't even that big of a change) and the ability to change characters. Big fucking deal.
And what cool characters? The only person in FFX that wasn't a complete and utter pussy was Auron.
Perndog
Dec 14th, 2003, 09:01 PM
You know, I might rip on Final Fantasy 8 a lot (I said it munches balls) but I'm only comparing it to the RPGs that I really like...honestly, I have a hard time finding *any* roleplaying game that isn't even worth playing through, Final Fantasy or otherwise. And yes, I've played an awful lot of them.
:fanboy
Nerd
Dec 14th, 2003, 09:07 PM
Rongi, in every Final Fantasy they have tried something new. Every damn one of them. 6 had relics, 7 had materia, 8 had draw and junction, 9 had abilities, and 10 had the sphere grid.
Rongi
Dec 14th, 2003, 09:09 PM
Yes, but it had the same kind of fucking turn based combat.
For example, all of them basically had this:
ATTACK
MAGIC
[INSERT SUMMON, SWORD TECH, ETC.]
OPTIONS
Nerd
Dec 14th, 2003, 09:13 PM
Most turn based RPG's are like that. You might as well say that whole genre is the same damn thing. When there's a drastic change in gameplay I wouldn't call it a rehash.
Rongi
Dec 14th, 2003, 09:16 PM
Let me get this straight, you people actually enjoy that 11 12 times? You enjoy playing the same fucking game with the same fucking commands except maybe a slightly different set of characters in a sort of different colored world?
Fuck, I loved ff7, ff5, ff4, ff1, but honestly, I would like a little fucking change in the combat. It's like playing the same god damn time.
Nerd
Dec 14th, 2003, 09:19 PM
Well, yes. I do enjoy the stratigy involved with each one. And the new and different story keeps it interesting. Though I do agree with you; it would be nice to see something new. I hear FFXII is going to try real-time fighting...which sounds kinda iffy, but I'll have to see it myself.
soundtest
Dec 14th, 2003, 09:21 PM
The FF series has become a metaphor for what is wrong with the videogame industry as a whole. It sucks the dick of the casual gamer but makes them feel like they're hardcore, wasting precious development time and resources that could be put toward new ideas. It's a vicious cycle but its grip is waning which each pathetic release.
Ihach
Dec 14th, 2003, 09:22 PM
and how exactly would you change the fight system to make it so new and exciting? as for the characters, lulu was cool, braska, seymour, really i liked all the characters except for tidus and yuna.
and i have no problem with playing the "same" fight system each time because theres always something new to it, and the storyline is always different and interesting, honestly, if your playing an rpg looking for intense non-stop actions battles, look elsewhere. rpgs are about deep story and strategy in battle
Rongi
Dec 14th, 2003, 09:24 PM
How is FFX "deep"? It's about Meg Ryan playing soccer in what looks like a gigantic cube of blue jello and finding out his drunk angry dad is a big evil panda trying to take over the world. Sure, it's original, but 'deep'?
Nerd
Dec 14th, 2003, 09:25 PM
The FF series has become a metaphor for what is wrong with the videogame industry as a whole. It sucks the dick of the casual gamer but makes them feel like they're hardcore, wasting precious development time and resources that could be put toward new ideas. It's a vicious cycle but its grip is waning which each pathetic release.
Okay...
But Square is trying new things. I mean, they made games like Seiken Densetsu, Chrono Trigger, and Kingdom Hearts that are very different from Final Fantasy.
How is FFX "deep"? It's about Meg Ryan playing soccer in what looks like a gigantic cube of blue jello and finding out his drunk angry dad is a big evil panda trying to take over the world. Sure, it's original, but 'deep'?
Have to agree with you there. FFX's story line was mediocre at best. But that doesn't really make it a bad game.
EDIT: to respond to Rongi's post, which somehow got posted just before I made mine.
HickMan
Dec 14th, 2003, 09:30 PM
Umm...Can you tell me how many years has it been since Chrono Trigger came out? Chrono Cross dosn't count because it just plain sucked. Oh yeah, in FFXII, the main city looks like it's from KOTOR. STUPID >:. AND THEY EVEN SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T EVEN GET A LITTLE INSPIRATION FROM STAR WARS. >:
Then again, I never liked Square-Enix aside from Chrono Trigger :/
Emu
Dec 14th, 2003, 10:24 PM
CT was '95, yes? 8 years?
Nerd
Dec 14th, 2003, 10:27 PM
What's your point?
ItalianStereotype
Dec 15th, 2003, 01:19 AM
If anyone needs to 'get over themselves', it's you King Faggotti. Just because this thread isn't 30 replies of: "FF is great! :) " "Yea FF is so badass!!" and somebody has an opinion that differs from yours doesn't mean they are bitching, and how they can be called a fanboy is beyond me. No need to cry though toughguy - I'm sure there will be at least another 10 sequels of ultimately the same, boring game for you and the herds to throw money at and wank over.
ooh, king faggotti, that's HARDCORE right there. I don't care if everybody in this thread said they all hated FF, it's ridiculous seeing the same arguments almost verbatim repeated in these threads. Christ, if you don't like FF, don't play it. In a series as popular as this, I guarantee that EVERYONE has heard EVERY POSSIBLE REASON that someone doesn't like it.
as for you soundgaymoqueer (haha, I can do it too, cock) you should get back to work on acting like a chink. by now I would at LEAST expect you to sound like triad brother choi or summin.
Schimid
Dec 15th, 2003, 01:26 AM
The reason that FF is repetitive is because it works, and people don't want to see it change. They DO want the same gameplay over and over, whether they'll admit it or not. Square let out other types of RPG's, like the Chrono series and stuff like that, but it'll never catch on like FF.
People don't care how many times they play the same story over and over, because they're going to love the new characters and goals, no matter what.
FF is like an overblown Tony Hawk. Tony Hawk has the same concept year after year, with slight changes and "improvements", but people will keep buying it for the new missions, objectives...it may be the same thing that they've played over and over and over, but they still love it.
I've NEVER liked any Final Fantasy besides Advance Tactics. Yes, Final Fantasy is pretty overrated, but since it was the "father of RPG's," people won't stray from it.
SO STOP. >:
James
Dec 15th, 2003, 02:05 AM
GOOD ONE JAMES. I am just sick of you writing 6 or 7 paragraphs about how every Playstation 2 game is better than the games on anyother system. Like, in this thread, you posted about 3 or 4 of them when someone says the game doesn't look as well or doesn't compare to a certain game.
Get over yourself. I laid out the information on Crystal Chronicle, and what I thought of it (in three very short paragraphs). I still would have said the same things if it was on the PS2, and I never said anything to prove otherwise in my comments. The fact that to play with friends, you each need a link cable and GBA is stupid, and is not related to the fact that it's Nintendo. If it was on the PS2, and you each needed a PSP, that would also be stupid. And more importantly, I am very aware that my opinions are based solely on information of the unreleased product. I have no first--hand experience or reviews of which to give anything but my first impressions, and also never said my thoughts on the game were something everyone must share.
This will be my 4th reply in this thread. My 3rd one was calling you a retard, my 2nd one was about Crystal Chronicle's gameplay, and a bit more on FFX-2, and my first reply was all information on FFX-2. Please show me these 3 or 4 times in the thread I went off about PS2 games being better than any other system's, or even when someone said a game "doesn't look as well or doesn't compare to a certain game."
Schimid
Dec 15th, 2003, 02:12 AM
This song is actually pretty good. (http://www.ocremix.org/songs/Final_Fantasy_7_ROBOVoice_OC_ReMix.mp3)
:(
soundtest
Dec 15th, 2003, 02:58 AM
wannabe 'chink' - i love it "Chainsaw Smash" :lol ... coming from the fag with the anime avatar who talks tough to new people. you should swap it for a sephiroth one - it would suit you even more.
but yes, this is just a little off track, so feel free to have the last word. you don't have to make it knee-jerk and call me a cock either - put some thought into it sunshine. or don't. to me you will always be that loser that showed up on the old boards posting "mama mia!" in every other thread. then someone changed your avatar of a bunch of flying crosses to a bunch of flying erect penises. and then you cried.
edit: i was actually Triad Brother Chicken and all of his 2 posts, but thanks for coming out. genius fucking sleuthing there mon amie - teach me how you read through the lines?
timrpgland
Dec 15th, 2003, 05:04 AM
This thread makes me :lol
FF has been a good series all the way through. It has had its ups and downs but overall it's a good series. IV, VI and VII were the best so far but Square has held my interest with the later installments. Maybe Square gets so much shit because it was king during the SNES era but they put out a decent product when you look at the other stuff the genre is putting out these days. Square is more mainstream these days and their games totally reflect that. Made so that novice players can easily play them. It isn't a good thing in my opinion but the games offer enough substance that they are fun to play through. My expectations have lowered and I enjoy the series alot more because of it. Hell, I'm even having fun playing through FFVIII again and I didn't like it the first time. If you don't like them, don't play them. If you aren't playing them, don't bitch cause you don't know what the fuck you are talking about (a major factor in alot of threads).
ziggytrix
Dec 15th, 2003, 11:30 AM
my what a lovely tea party
timrpgland
Dec 15th, 2003, 11:32 AM
To get back on track, I'm only in chapter 3 at the moment but I have been leveling alot and mastering jobs. Yuna is 46, Rikku is 46 and Paine is 47. Next jobs I'm going to work on are Lady Luck (took a few times to beat Shinra) and Berserker.
Nerd
Dec 15th, 2003, 12:25 PM
Shinra? o .0
I've never played this game, and probably never will, so do indulge me on what role "Shinra" plays.
ItalianStereotype
Dec 15th, 2003, 03:28 PM
wannabe 'chink' - i love it "Chainsaw Smash" :lol ... coming from the fag with the anime avatar who talks tough to new people. you should swap it for a sephiroth one - it would suit you even more.
but yes, this is just a little off track, so feel free to have the last word. you don't have to make it knee-jerk and call me a cock either - put some thought into it sunshine. or don't. to me you will always be that loser that showed up on the old boards posting "mama mia!" in every other thread. then someone changed your avatar of a bunch of flying crosses to a bunch of flying erect penises. and then you cried.
edit: i was actually Triad Brother Chicken and all of his 2 posts, but thanks for coming out. genius fucking sleuthing there mon amie - teach me how you read through the lines?
well, it first became clear to me that you were one of the Triads when I noticed that both of you are absolutely worthless pieces of shit. my suspicions were deepened when I realized that the Triad was annoying and you're just an arrogant fuck. it's really pretty obvious once you consider that you're just a stupid white kid banging a fucking gong everywhere you go.
I may have said "mama mia" once or twice (my fucking name WAS "Italian Stereotype"), but other than that I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. I DO remember making you look like a jackass in front of the entire board and you stopped posting for a long time. I guess you just love the pain?
if you want this to be the last word, then fine. just remember that YOU picked this fight and YOU are the one bitching out on it now. hell, I didn't even know you had a problem with me until you started flinging shit like so many apes and chinamen.
edit-by the way, it's pretty fucking hypocritical for YOU to tell ME to put thought into my posts. you use "fag" more often then you do vowels.
soundtest
Dec 15th, 2003, 03:48 PM
you know damn well what i'm talking about freak.
I DO remember making you look like a jackass in front of the entire board and you stopped posting for a long time. I guess you just love the pain?
huh? so you don't like the past haunting you so now you resort to making shit up to make yourself sound cool? seriously wtf are you talking about? you're either thinking of someone else or you're fucking delusional. i left the board for months because i left the fucking continent. or wait, i'm sure you associate that with this 'verbal beatdown' that's all in your head as well. if it's the time i'm thinking of, YOU stfu after i called you on your juvenille military fantasy and sucking of george bush's cock toughguy. unless you replied to that thread a month later and i was already gone. OMG OWNED. THE PAIN!! seriously, listen to yourself - i'm embarassed for you.
i'll be blunt. you're a fucking loser. post your picture. i'm sure you're ugly as sin too. you're a fucking troll who goes around here posting shit like "NONE OF US WILL EVER LIKE YOU" to new people in order to seem cool and fit in but you're a little annoying kid that tries too hard. you end up sounding about as menacing as Jeanette X when she's looking to 'tear newbies a new asshole.' you're an unfunny cunt with absolutely no redeeming qualities, and how you ever got to think that you're some big shot around here is beyond me.
Emu
Dec 15th, 2003, 03:53 PM
:lol
Nerd
Dec 15th, 2003, 04:18 PM
MOCKWARS >:
soundtest
Dec 15th, 2003, 04:19 PM
i know you just got this awesomely badass new name that shows how TOUGH YOU ARE MR. CHAINSAW SMASH but i think the name DAN is more fitting because that's how threatening you are to all the new people when you thirst for DELICIOUS NEWBIE BLOOD
http://www.geocities.com/guail0/madskillz.txt
DAN
http://www.geocities.com/guail0/sfa3loser.txt
DAN
http://www.geocities.com/guail0/deaddad.txt
DAN
http://www.geocities.com/guail0/showoff.txt
DAN
CHAINSAW DAN
Cap'n Crunch
Dec 15th, 2003, 04:26 PM
Get over yourself. I laid out the information on Crystal Chronicle, and what I thought of it (in three very short paragraphs). I still would have said the same things if it was on the PS2, and I never said anything to prove otherwise in my comments. The fact that to play with friends, you each need a link cable and GBA is stupid, and is not related to the fact that it's Nintendo. If it was on the PS2, and you each needed a PSP, that would also be stupid. And more importantly, I am very aware that my opinions are based solely on information of the unreleased product. I have no first--hand experience or reviews of which to give anything but my first impressions, and also never said my thoughts on the game were something everyone must share.
This will be my 4th reply in this thread. My 3rd one was calling you a retard, my 2nd one was about Crystal Chronicle's gameplay, and a bit more on FFX-2, and my first reply was all information on FFX-2. Please show me these 3 or 4 times in the thread I went off about PS2 games being better than any other system's, or even when someone said a game "doesn't look as well or doesn't compare to a certain game."
Eat my shit, you faggot. :lol
Nerd
Dec 15th, 2003, 04:27 PM
This whole thread should be moved to mockwars. :/
James
Dec 15th, 2003, 04:48 PM
And of course, that's all Capn has to say, because he had no basis for any of his ignorant babble. I asked him for counterpoints with some sort of substance, and he responds with "Eat my shit, you faggot. :lol"
Anyway, everyone should go play FFX-2 now.
Cap'n Crunch
Dec 15th, 2003, 04:51 PM
I am not even bothering with you anymore because you are obviously always right. I am sorry for my ignorant comments, and I will go spend 50 dollars on a copy of FF X-2 right away and play it's awesomness. Thank you James, for bringing light into my world with your intelligence and excellent choice in games.
EDIT : :rolleyes
James
Dec 15th, 2003, 04:53 PM
I'll be able to forgive you, in time. Now that you understand that you're not supposed to question anything I say, we should get along much better. As you said, I am always right. And the problems come from people who challenge that.
soundtest
Dec 15th, 2003, 04:59 PM
GOODBYE EVERYONE CHAINSAW DAN HAS OWNED ME AGAIN I WILL BE BACK IN A FEW MONTHS I CANT HANDLE THIS PAIN
http://www.geocities.com/guail0/nearrun.txt
timrpgland
Dec 15th, 2003, 05:29 PM
*SLIGHT SPOILER*
Nerd: Shinra is this little kid who knows everything. "I know everything." He is part of the Gullwings, your sphere hunter gang. During Chapter 3 there is a tournament in Luca for a game called Sphere Break (it's pretty lame). After beating 3 pathetic players you goto the finals against that Shinra kid. His match is alot tougher but after you beat him you win the tournament and the "Lady Luck" dressphere. I haven't messed with the dressphere yet.
RABBLE! RABBLE! RABBLE! RABBLE! RABBLE!
This thread is entertaining. Using Dan as a beat down is pure gold. :lol
ItalianStereotype
Dec 15th, 2003, 06:50 PM
my bad gook, I didn't realize that I was supposed to constantly be online waiting to reply to some jackass who thinks he's witty.
emu, tim-fuck the both of you. this little super ultra ninja fag squad thing you have going with soundtest doesn't fit you very well.
if you don't like the few "NOBODY LIKES YOU" type posts that I make, maybe you shouldn't be part of the problem. at least I add character to the board with the few posts that I make; you tend to be forgotten about a second after you post.
I'll bet that Dan would be a HILARIOUS beatdown if I knew anything about him. I don't play Street Fighter, you fucking nerd.
OMG OWNED, the PAIN. seriously, YOU listen to YOURSELF. you've obviously had some deep and personal grudge against me for a while, but I don't even know who the fuck you are. quit swatting my knees, you cunt, you just can't reach.
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:opqpcq1s1BEC:www.wizards.com/sideboard/images/USNAT01/766.jpg
what's up guys? I'm soundtest.
http://www.jupitter-larsen.com/news3.gif
this here's emu and tim.
AND WHEN OUR GAYNESS COMBINES, WE ARE...
http://www.jademagazine.com/images/chink.jpg
THE SUPER ULTRA NINJA FAG SQUAD
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:fBh1tOR9bOgC:www.algonet.se/~ncc1701d/pics/rc-car.jpg
LOOK, WE HAVE OUR OWN MEGAZORD!
soundtest
Dec 15th, 2003, 06:58 PM
LMFAO
no serious dan. that is bad. lame embarassing bad. if it were satirical maybe. but fuck man. you make me feel sorry for you. go back to being the boogie man to new members CHAINSAW cuz this shit just shows your true colours
:lol
ItalianStereotype
Dec 15th, 2003, 07:05 PM
did I give away your SECRET IDENTITY? OH NO, now all your Magic buddies will know that you aren't just being wierd when you scream "IT'S MORPHING TIME" and start thrashing their Elves.
soundtest
Dec 15th, 2003, 07:09 PM
:lol but for all the wrong reasons
Emu
Dec 15th, 2003, 07:40 PM
I don't recall ever forming sme kind of fag ninja team with soundest. :lol
Maverick Zero Unit
Dec 16th, 2003, 12:04 AM
I just beat FFX an hour ago... Should the final boss only take 3 hits to beat?
Anonymous
Dec 16th, 2003, 12:15 AM
In all seriousness, finding out that soundtest wasn't Asian was a serious mindfuck.
Supafly345
Dec 16th, 2003, 04:21 AM
The level of sightless devotion for your people's games and how offended you get over them makes me start to think that these conversations belong in the Political forum.
James
Dec 16th, 2003, 08:22 AM
I just beat FFX an hour ago... Should the final boss only take 3 hits to beat?
That's what really bothered me about the game. I guess there was really no way to do it "right." I mean, they either left the bosses the way they were, so people who didn't get the Ultimate Weapons or Break Damage Limit ability would be able to fight them, or they increased their HP and forced the player to find the weapons.
At least the monster arena made up for it.
timrpgland
Dec 17th, 2003, 07:25 AM
X's boss was real weak. I used Tidus, Lulu and Yuna all with their ultimate weapons, it was pathetic.
SPOILER
X-2's boss was quicker and the game is shorter but I guess that's why there are multiple endings/choices. I beat the game last night. Got the new game + and also got the Tidus secret ending,
pretty cool but doesn't really explain much. Continues where X's after credits scene left off.
Will have to play through again cause it was pretty short and I need to get 100%
Maverick Zero Unit
Dec 17th, 2003, 04:35 PM
The monster arena bosses fucked me up like a 2 dollar whore. I've only beaten 2 of them. And getting the Sun Sigil is like pulling your own teeth, near impossable and painful as hell.
James
Dec 17th, 2003, 04:49 PM
Which one is the Sun Sigil again?
Maverick Zero Unit
Dec 17th, 2003, 04:53 PM
Chocobo race for Tidus
timrpgland
Dec 18th, 2003, 02:18 AM
Yeah you have to get 0 on the chocobo race. Took several trys. I thought Lulu's (think it was the venus sigil) to be pretty annoying. I had it up to 147 the first time then somehow got struck. Had to do it over and it wasn't a problem but it was quite annoying and tedious.
I only ended up getting three ultimate weapons all the way powered up: Tidus, Lulu and Yuna. The rest will be something to do if I ever go back.
Anyone ever beat Nemesis in X?
slain
Dec 21st, 2003, 11:56 PM
thing i like best about ff was weapon hes harder than the final boss and you can brag to your friends when you kick his ass. i kicked the omegas ass btw
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