"grind" and "core" music

[bigtimecow]

i've noticed lately that almost any thing, any word, with either the word "grind" or "core" added to it can be a style of music. for example, some bands genre was called south africore.

how many can you come up with?

(this is gay :( :( :( )

[EverythingWillSuck]

lack of interest is awesome

[Big Papa Goat]

I find that almost any form of music with the term "core" in it is very gay.

[The Unseen]

HARDCORE OR AS THE STRAIGHT EDGE EMO KIDS CALL IT HERE "hXc"

[Sicktodeathmx]

Don't forget the new addition of Emo!
Everyone has either a core or emo.

[Bobo Adobo]

I don't have a Core or a Emo.

...anyways why would you call a genre of Music "Emotional". What kind of music isn't emotional?

[PILLOWFIGHT]

SCREAMOS THE NEW EMO :O

[Helm]

Yes exactly. Hm. Although one could say that some industrial music is not - by intent - emotional...

[Royal Tenenbaum]

Sadcore and Slowcore are the best. :/

[EverythingWillSuck]

Low :(

[wreckreation]

mainstreamo >:

[Rez]

twee-core :lol

[bigtimecow]

someone said this the other day

"coffee-grind"

:/

"gothcore"
"americore"

morons. :)

[Anonymous]

SUPER EUROBEAT

[Cap'n Crunch]

Emo has like really slow parts and then it gets harder, then back to slow again or something. And then they cry about their girlfriend or something.

[Big Papa Goat]

I saw a blurb about a band playing at my university describing them as "frost-core" :(

[liquidstatik]

What the hell is frost-core?

[Rez]

sigur ros :lol

[Pyorrhea]

rectumcore
anusgrind
fuckcore
grindfuck
its all the same... grind and core are bassically describing parts in music. the "core" part describes that the music has breakdowns... which came from crust. and "grind" usually applies to having blast beats or mettalized punk riffs.

[EverythingWillSuck]

porngrind

[Helm]

bouncy breakdowns. There are breakdowns that sound like someone twisted your spine around and kicked you in the head for good measure and there's nothing 'core' about them.

[Darko]

Pyorrea, you couldn't be farther from the truth.

The suffix "core" denotes that the music has a root in hardcore, which could also mean quite a few things, depending on your look of the underground music scene. Some refer to hardcore as agressive punk rock, there's a form of crust music which those kids refer to as hardcore (Tragedy, etc) , and then you have the hardcore scene which is too much to get into right now.

Placing the term "core" on something does not mean it has "breakdowns." And breakdowns were not invented in the crust genre of music. It came from 80s hardcore, and evolved into a shitload of meanings depending on what part of the "scene" you fall into.

[Perndog]

So what's a breakdown in popular music? Obviously not the same thing it is in jazz...enlighten me.

[Helm]

Going into Half speed on the snare (the snare sets the speed of the song, obviously, so it sounds like they're slowing down), lots of tom-work on the drums while the guitarist engage into downstroked chord simplicity and the singer does his bit with jumping around and passing the mike or something. It's a stupid concept because in most hardcore music, playing "fast" and then doing your "breakdown" is as far as their knowledge and application of dynamics goes.

[Darko]

Yet, it's a tried and true formula.

If you're looking at more punk rock oriented music, like 80s styled hardcore, or what the crusties like to call hardcore, a breakdown is exactly what Helm described. But this kind of part is refered to as a "Two Step" to new school hardcore tough guys. This is the part where you see people picking up change or doing a dance that is almost identical to skanking, but they call it a two-step because it sounds tougher that way.

A breakdown in the hardcore scene is usually the most rhymatic, punchy parts of a song. Usually done via open chord muting. They're simplistic and usually easy to play, but they are very energetic and get crowds moving.

[Perndog]

I shouldn't need to say this, but the "dancing" ("picking up change" and all that idiotic crap) that hardcore kids do at concerts is possibly the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. Disco dancers look more dignified.

[Darko]

Yeah, and just randomly slamming into one another is a more sensible solution to the mosh pit.

Regardless, you're going to look like an idiot no matter what you do.

[Perndog]

Randomly slamming into one another may be painful and can't be the smartest thing to do, but it doesn't really look stupid and it at least serves the purposes of 1) energizing people, 2) satisfying aggression.

"Dancing" to hardcore music, on the other hand, is basically just a way to look like a goon. I seriously doubt that looking like a goon makes the music any more enjoyable (as if there were something to build on in the first place).

[Dole]

Being a hardcore listener of some 17 years standing :posh , I prefer the old days when it was just slamming as opposed to all the kickboxing/martial arts demonstration that goes on these days.
Yes, anyone slamming looks like a goon, but one of the fundamentals of hardcore is that is doesnt matter- you can do whatever you want, thrash around like an idiot and look like a fool...THATS THE POINT. You should feel comfortable expressing yourself anyway you want, and not expected to be judged on your dancing skills. Its all about freeform self expression, baby.

[Helm]

What's this picking up change thing you're talking about? I seriously don't understand.

And I don't go to concerts to feed off agression. I go so I can listen to some good music.

[whoreable]

parents just dont understand

[Dole]

"What's this picking up change thing you're talking about? "

Hardcore kids have notoriously baggy jeans/pockets. Large amounts of change inevitably fall on the dance floor. Each gig has a designated collector. Its a bigger earner than ebay for some.

[Anonymous]

Yes, anyone slamming looks like a goon, but one of the fundamentals of hardcore is that is doesnt matter- you can do whatever you want, thrash around like an idiot and look like a fool...THATS THE POINT. You should feel comfortable expressing yourself anyway you want, and not expected to be judged on your dancing skills. Its all about freeform self expression, baby.
I'VE HAD IT RIGHT THIS WHOLE TIME ALL ALONG :tear

[Helm]

Okay, Dole :rolleyes

[Dole]

Dont roll your eyes at me, you seductive hairy greek temptress you.

Am alarmed to discover I have written a convincing justification for DDR :chatter

[Bobo Adobo]

Any of you "Hardcore" suburbanites ever concider going to a head shrinker, as apposed to losing brain cells, and making/listening to bad music? :/

[Mr. Vagiclean]

DDR is about testing one's dexterity or doing something when a good song is going on... around everyone that cares to look i guess. Also good for an exercise i heard

[Darko]

you can do whatever you want, thrash around like an idiot and look like a fool...THATS THE POINT. You should feel comfortable expressing yourself anyway you want, and not expected to be judged on your dancing skills. Its all about freeform self expression, baby.

Agreed, you look like an idiot no matter what you do. Might as well do it how YOU want to do it.

[Brandon]

XSUBURBANITESX

[Dole]

"Any of you "Hardcore" suburbanites ever concider going to a head shrinker, as apposed to losing brain cells, and making/listening to bad music?"

-Ever considered enrolling in spelling classes? 'Head Shrinker'?? Did we just go back to the fifties?

[Darko]

Yeah, I have no idea what was meant by that.

[Brandon]

XHEADSHRINKERX

[Bobo Adobo]

Yeah, I have no idea what was meant by that.

I meant you should go to a psychiatrist, and what does "head shrinker" have to do with the 50's? I've heard that term alot, I must live in 50's land.

[Brandon]

I honestly don't mind the music all that much, just the weiner scenesters who have turned it into a way of life.

XPRETENTIOUSCRAPX

[Helm]

Artificial made me lol two times in a row.