View Full Version : Global Warming is Fake, eh?
Buffalo Tom
Feb 23rd, 2004, 04:28 PM
Even the Pentagon recognizes the dire situation we are in (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1521&e=1&u=/afp/britain_us_environment)
Randall, one of the authors, called his findings "depressing stuff" and warned that it might even be too late to prevent future disasters.
:(
Buffalo Tom
Feb 23rd, 2004, 04:55 PM
Special report on climate change (http://www.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/0,12374,782494,00.html)
Key findings of the Pentagon
Sunday February 22, 2004
The Observer
· Future wars will be fought over the issue of survival rather than religion, ideology or national honour.
· By 2007 violent storms smash coastal barriers rendering large parts of the Netherlands inhabitable. Cities like The Hague are abandoned. In California the delta island levees in the Sacramento river area are breached, disrupting the aqueduct system transporting water from north to south.
· Between 2010 and 2020 Europe is hardest hit by climatic change with an average annual temperature drop of 6F. Climate in Britain becomes colder and drier as weather patterns begin to resemble Siberia.
· Deaths from war and famine run into the millions until the planet's population is reduced by such an extent the Earth can cope.
· Riots and internal conflict tear apart India, South Africa and Indonesia.
· Access to water becomes a major battleground. The Nile, Danube and Amazon are all mentioned as being high risk.
· A 'significant drop' in the planet's ability to sustain its present population will become apparent over the next 20 years.
· Rich areas like the US and Europe would become 'virtual fortresses' to prevent millions of migrants from entering after being forced from land drowned by sea-level rise or no longer able to grow crops. Waves of boatpeople pose significant problems.
· Nuclear arms proliferation is inevitable. Japan, South Korea, and Germany develop nuclear-weapons capabilities, as do Iran, Egypt and North Korea. Israel, China, India and Pakistan also are poised to use the bomb.
· By 2010 the US and Europe will experience a third more days with peak temperatures above 90F. Climate becomes an 'economic nuisance' as storms, droughts and hot spells create havoc for farmers.
· More than 400m people in subtropical regions at grave risk.
· Europe will face huge internal struggles as it copes with massive numbers of migrants washing up on its shores. Immigrants from Scandinavia seek warmer climes to the south. Southern Europe is beleaguered by refugees from hard-hit countries in Africa.
· Mega-droughts affect the world's major breadbaskets, including America's Midwest, where strong winds bring soil loss.
· China's huge population and food demand make it particularly vulnerable. Bangladesh becomes nearly uninhabitable because of a rising sea level, which contaminates the inland water supplies.
MEATMAN
Feb 23rd, 2004, 04:59 PM
This is the same kind of thing they said 30 years ago. It hasn't happened yet.
mesobe
Feb 23rd, 2004, 05:20 PM
so when will christ come to earth? 2030 maybe?
right after the cockroaches mutate into super bugs, enslaving humanity.
Buffalo Tom
Feb 23rd, 2004, 05:21 PM
This is the same kind of thing they said 30 years ago. It hasn't happened yet.
In my memory, I've never heard of a similiar report by the Pentagon identifying climate change as one of the great challenges, if not the greatest challenge, to American strategic interests. As well, this isn't an NGO that could be criticized by the American government; this is actually a branch of the government. That alone should make Americans start to pay attention to this issue.
You have a president who is trying to sell himself as the national security candidate, yet he is skeptical and dismissive about the very security issue for which his military advisors are preparing.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. George Bush is a dumb ass. I just hope the American electorate can wake up to this fact before the presidential ballots are cast.
kellychaos
Feb 23rd, 2004, 05:25 PM
You have a president who is trying to sell himself as the national security candidate, yet he is skeptical and dismissive about the very security issue for which his military advisors are preparing.
It's hard to find a good time to break bad news to Dubya because, if they upset him, he's bound to be trouble at nappy time. :(
Brandon
Feb 23rd, 2004, 05:33 PM
Holy shit, that was bone-chilling.
DamnthatDavid
Feb 23rd, 2004, 05:34 PM
· By 2010 the US and Europe will experience a third more days with peak temperatures above 90F. Climate becomes an 'economic nuisance' as storms, droughts and hot spells create havoc for farmers.
Thank GOD!!! I am getting so sick of these 60-70 degree Washington summer tempatures. Or having to go to the beach with a coat. BAH!
BRING ON THE HEAT BABY!!!
(psst, it all a vast Governmental plot to make the U.S. into a warm, Rainforest type paradise.)
mesobe
Feb 23rd, 2004, 05:40 PM
besides, why is it so worrisome about the earth blowing up again?
I think humans flatter themselves by claiming that we are destroying the earth. I think it would be a better statement by saying we *Just* might be helping earth along.
Is humanity going to be wiped out? GOOD RIDDANCE!
Perndog
Feb 23rd, 2004, 06:42 PM
I'm willing to bet energy is a bigger concern than global warming right now. Do a web search for "Peak Oil."
The One and Only...
Feb 23rd, 2004, 07:20 PM
I have a feeling that if this were all true, we would hear more reports on it.
I want a link to the report.
Royal Tenenbaum
Feb 23rd, 2004, 07:39 PM
Some of it sounds likely, but the stuff about the Netherlands sounds far fetched. How the fuck do they know what will happen with the weather years from now?
mesobe
Feb 23rd, 2004, 07:43 PM
Some of it sounds likely, but the stuff about the Netherlands sounds far fetched. How the fuck do they know what will happen with the weather years from now?
yeah no shit. they can hardly predict the weather 2 days from now.
El Blanco
Feb 23rd, 2004, 08:34 PM
I'm willing to bet energy is a bigger concern than global warming right now. Do a web search for "Peak Oil."
That is really just scare tactics. To think we are going to resort to cannibalism because the price of oil increases is ludicrous.
Perndog
Feb 23rd, 2004, 10:37 PM
That's true, but it's a little more reasonable to think that food supplies will suffer if oil becomes scarce and if food supplies diminish people get desperate...
Off-topic, though. Back to global warming.
Jeanette X
Feb 24th, 2004, 12:57 AM
I have a feeling that if this were all true, we would hear more reports on it.
I want a link to the report.
There IS a link to Yahoo news there, dipshit. Click on the grey text.
Brandon
Feb 24th, 2004, 01:49 AM
I have a feeling that if this were all true, we would hear more reports on it.
I want a link to the report.
There IS a link to Yahoo news there, dipshit. Click on the grey text.
As much as I love hearing OAO get called a dipshit, I think he was referring to the actual report, not the article that described it.
phnompehn
Feb 24th, 2004, 08:15 AM
Everything in that list is pure speculation, with nothing to back it up. The Pentagon doesn't release information like a tabloid. Hell, they barely tell us anything about Saddam, yet suddenly they're spilling massive amounts of information on a fake doomsday? And since when is Yahoo! News a reliable source of information? When I see it on the BBC, I'll start to take notice.
EDIT:
It's the Guardian, or the Observer or whatever. This sotry looks like it's being traded around. And any news report where words are bolded for emphasis in every paragraph shouldn't be trusted.
The One and Only...
Feb 24th, 2004, 06:25 PM
As much as I love hearing OAO get called a dipshit, I think he was referring to the actual report, not the article that described it.
Precisely.
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