Big W. OWNS 9/11!!!

[mburbank]

Bush Campaign Defends Ads With 9/11 Images


NEW YORK - President Bush 's re-election campaign on Thursday defended commercials using images from the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, including wreckage of the World Trade Center, as appropriate for an election about public policy and the war on terror.

Some families of the victims of the attacks are angry with Bush for airing the spots, which they called in poor taste and for the president's political gain.

"With all due respect, I just completely disagree, and I believe the vast majority of the American people will as well," Karen Hughes, a Bush campaign adviser, told "The Early Show" on CBS. "September 11th was not just a distant tragedy. It's a defining event for the future of our country. ... Obviously, all of us mourn and grieve for the victims of that terrible day, but September 11 fundamentally changed our public policy in many important ways, and I think it's vital that the next president recognize that."

Two of the spots show the destruction at the World Trade Center and include an American flag flying amid the debris. They also feature images of firefighters working through the wreckage.

"It's as sick as people who stole things out of the place," said Firefighter Tommy Fee of Queens Rescue Squad 270. "The image of firefighters at ground zero should not be used for this stuff, for politics."

"I would be less offended if he showed a picture of himself in front of the Statue of Liberty," said Tom Roger, whose daughter perished on American Airlines Flight 11. "But to show the horror of 9/11 in the background, that's just some advertising agency's attempt to grab people by the throat."

Hughes said the ads are a tasteful reminder of what the country has been through the last three years.

"I can understand why some Democrats might not want the American people to remember the great leadership and strength the president and first lady Laura Bush brought to our country in the aftermath of that," she said.




Adding "Especially Democrats who are firefighters and survivors. If they can't appreciatte our exploitation of their pain they should emigrate to France or Germany. I'm certain that their upcoming tax audits are coincidental."

[Buffalo Tom]

This is the same guy who was reading a book upside-down when he was allegedly informed of the attacks. I'm not surprised he would approve the use of images of the destruction on 9/11 in his campaign ads.

[mburbank]

I think this is not only distatseful, but I think they've made a major tactical error, and one that will be a whole hell of a lot harder to back away from than his PR excercise in going to Mars.

Their convention is in NYC. I think the smartest thing they could do right now is drop every bit of 9/11 imagery right away and not mention they ever used it, even when they get to the Big Apple.

They won't though. Maybe they'll be smart enough to stop saying that only a democrat would find it offensive. I think this one is going to be big trouble for them.

[Protoclown]

The more people Bush offends now, the better.

[MEATMAN]

The more people Bush offends now, the better.

I am forced to agree with this.

I also believe only a complete idiot would use 9/11 as campaign fodder. That's just begging for a riot.

[mesobe]

imagine Bush's popularity when people learn that he caused 9/11 to happen.

[phnompehn]

I've seen 3 of his commercials. None of them have anything to do with the issues. Just "9/11, 9/11, 9/11, safety, war, the economy is wonderful, 9/11!" They even have that cliche piano and/or fiddle music. I can't wait until the debates between him and Kerry later in the year. I guarantee that it'll be special, very special.

[Rez]

im going to have to disagree with you guys here.

not that i side with bush, but his policies, his actions, his war, a lot of what he has done during his presidency and what makes the crawl-through-glass supporters of bush what they are today are his actions after 9/11.

9/11 played huge in his run as our current president, so wouldnt it make sense for him to use that as a plug to show his self-professed leadership skills? also, since it was such a huge event, not necessarily just the event itself, but what followed, that it'd be kinda retarded to ignore 9/11 completely?

that said, i hate his ads, not for 9/11 but his "i know what to do" shit. "knowing what to do" continues in the spirit of unilateral action (of going to war despite protests "that havent flagged his will [read:hard-on]) and not in democracy. he is not our magnanimous leader with all-encompassing solutions, and a president should never be that. a pre-set plan based on your own unique beliefs should not exist in a democracy.

his ads are telling us he'll continue to ignore those he wants presides over for the next 4 years.

"i want to be president because i think i should be"

[mesobe]

I wish i could comment, but I have yet to see his tv ads.

[Ronnie Raygun]

Those ads are not offending anyone except hard line left wing libs.

They have a positive message and are as far as you can get from an attack ad....and that's why people are going to like them.

"This is the same guy who was reading a book upside-down when he was allegedly informed of the attacks. I'm not surprised he would approve the use of images of the destruction on 9/11 in his campaign ads." - Tom

The cover was upside down, you moron. Not the book. How many times does that have to be reported before you'll catch on?

[mesobe]

well, he was also the guy who said he watched the second plane hit the building live on TV... but he was still kind of reading books to children. Unless he has stunt doubles like Saddam.

[ranxer]

i bet the guy that let that cover get to bush upside lost his job.

I can't wait until the debates between him and Kerry later in the year.

there won't be any debates, i betcha bush won't sit in the same room with kerry.. maybe some remote conference crap with scripted questions but there won't be any real debates.

and if kerry lets that happen without a big fight, i'm voting for nader.

[Rez]

bush will debate.

despite bush never winning a single debate, he was spun as being "joe cool" instead of "fucking dunce"

so he'll debate and let the "analysts" give him a handjob.

[MEATMAN]

bush will debate.

despite bush never winning a single debate, he was spun as being "joe cool" instead of "fucking dunce"

so he'll debate and let the "analysts" give him a handjob.

Analysis: root word 'anal' and the Latin word ysis, which means 'to pull numbers from.'

Bush's 'analysis' is defined as above.

[Anonymouse]

I wonder if anyone else saw Boosh's smirk when he was informed of the attacks to know why the fuck now doesn't care to use those images.

[Ronnie Raygun]

"despite bush never winning a single debate, blah, blah......."

Bush won 2 out of the 3 debates with Gore.....and Kerry is no Al Gore.

[Immortal Goat]

You are right, Ronnie. He is much much better.

[Ronnie Raygun]

He's much better if you are a conservative.

If you are a dem, you shouldn't feel to good about it.

He's about as strong as Dole was.

[Immortal Goat]

See, I'm not completely democratic. I am a middle of the road kinda guy. Kerry seems to be the best choice for me. Anybody but bush.

[Ronnie Raygun]

Then you're not middle of the road then are you?

Do you consider Bush a right wing extremeist?

[Immortal Goat]

I am middle of the road, most certainly. It's not that I do not agree with some of what Bush has done, I just think that he is ill-equipped to be our President. I think that he is a bad leader that does not know enough of what he is doing.

[Rez]

"despite bush never winning a single debate, blah, blah......."

Bush won 2 out of the 3 debates with Gore.....and Kerry is no Al Gore.

"..............jim?"
"oh, uh, yeah, our time is up..."

:lol

[KevinTheOmnivore]

Do you consider Bush a right wing extremeist?

You might want to ask the Congressmen, conservatives and liberals alike, who oppose his asinine amendement to the constitution. Heck, even the guy I was telling you about, Roy Moore, opposed the amendment.

On certain issues, and in predominantly all of his rhetoric, Bush is certainly a right-wing extremist. The man who ran as a uniter has done little to produce such unity. He might not ber much of a traditional conservative, but neither are you, for that matter.

Those ads are not offending anyone except hard line left wing libs.

Such as the mourning families of 9/11 victims....?

[sspadowsky]

Then you're not middle of the road then are you?

Do you consider Bush a right wing extremeist?

Anybody who supports a fucking constitutional amendment banning gay marriage is a right-wing extremist. As someone else said here, the purpose of the Constitution is to limit the government, not the People. End of discussion.

[Anonymouse]

I don't vote. Voting is for losers.

[mburbank]

See, maybe it's me, but I think people will find it distasteful when Bush aminsitration people and lap dogs like Naldo, who even though he knows W is mistreating him still adores him, will look... I don't know...

Just really BAD when they start calling survivor families and firemen 'hard line left wing libs'

It's like saying their reaction is sour grapes.

I mean, I know he's kind of forced to play that card becuase his deck is pretty empty otherwise. I'm not saying waving the bloody shirt isn't effective. I'm just saying it's repulsive. It's like saying all that death and destruction has no more meaning than one of the banners they hang behind W. for his photo ops. That's something that happened to all of us, and people saying only a 'hard line left wing lib' would object are saying they own 9/11. It's somewhat nauseating.

[davinxtk]

"9/11 - Never forget" has turned into "9/11 - Exact revenge on every possible involved party"
It's disgusting how far he carries this torch. We've more than matched the body count and affected more families than a few terrorists did on 9/11.

But they're not Americans, so it doesn't count, right?

[mesobe]

what? you mean those brown poor children of the desert who got mauled by freedom-bombs?

why the fuck should they matter?

[Spasmolytic]

Then you're not middle of the road then are you?

Do you consider Bush a right wing extremeist?
LOL, Bush is a neo-conservative-- take the worst qualities from the right/left and you've got Bush!

SPEND SPEND SPEND, BIG GOVERNMENT! TURN THE BIBLE INTO LAW! no marriages for gays! that's immoral! whats fiscal responsibility? let's go nation-building! yeehaw!

[mesobe]

Then you're not middle of the road then are you?

Do you consider Bush a right wing extremeist?
LOL, Bush is a neo-conservative-- take the worst qualities from the right/left and you've got Bush!

SPEND SPEND SPEND, BIG GOVERNMENT! TURN THE BIBLE INTO LAW! no marriages for gays! that's immoral! whats fiscal responsibility? let's go nation-building! yeehaw!

:lol

[AChimp]

http://members.shaw.ca/achimp/bushad.jpg

[Ant10708]

Its just like that statue of that same exact picture they made where they replaced two fo the white guys with a Latino and Black. Yay

[mburbank]

Harold Schaitberger, President, International Association of Fire Fighters

"The uses of 9/11 images are hypocrisy at its worst. Since the attacks, Bush has been using images of himself putting his arm around a retired FDNY fire fighter on the pile of rubble at Ground Zero. But for two and a half years he has basically shortchanged fire fighters and the safety of our homeland. The fact is, Bush's actions have resulted in fire stations closing in communities around the country. Two-thirds of America's fire departments remain under-staffed because Bush is failing to enforce a new law that was passed with bipartisan support...to put more fire fighters in our communities."

Tommy Fee, New York City firefighter

"It's as sick as people who stole things out of the place. The image of firefighters at Ground Zero should not be used for this stuff, for politics."

Tom Ryan, New York City firefighter

"As a firefighter who spent months at Ground Zero, it's deeply offensive to see the Bush campaign use these images to capitalize on the greatest American tragedy of our time."

Monica Gabrielle, 9/11 Widow

"It's a slap in the face of the murders of 3,000 people," Gabrielle said of the use of images of the removal of the 9/11 dead for political purposes. "It's unconscionable."

Bob McIlvaine, 9/11 Parent

"My son was murdered on September 11th. To argue that using footage of the wreckage of the towers to further someone's political career is 'tasteful' really needs to be rejected outright, and I condemn it."

Tom Roger, 9/11 Parent

"I would be less offended if he [Bush] showed a picture of himself in front of the Statue of Liberty. But to show the horror of 9/11 in the background, that's just some advertising agency's attempt to grab people by the throat."

Abe Zelmanowitz, 9/11 Family member

"It's so hard for us to believe that it's not obvious to everyone that ground zero shouldn't be used as a backdrop for a political campaign. We are incensed and hurt by what he is doing."

[mburbank]

Posted on Sun, Jan. 26, 2003

N.Y. firefighters to protest for aid at Bush speech

BY GREG GITTRICH
New York Daily News


NEW YORK - The weary, retired firefighter President Bush tossed his arm around at Ground Zero days after the terrorist attacks is making a special trip to Washington to plea for help for ailing rescue workers.

Upset that $90 million in federal aid to monitor the long-term health of Ground Zero laborers is tied up, Bob Beckwith will join a silent - but very visible - protest at the State of the Union address Tuesday.