Originally Posted by Ant10708

He could be referring to small groups of special forces and spy/esponiage tactics.

Originally Posted by ziggytrix

Couldn't we keep up all kinds of operations in the Middle East without having a substantantial portion of our armed forces living there?

Originally Posted by adept_ninja

not every single one wants to destroy america (though some do because we pissed them off to that point) they just want their land back.

Originally Posted by Courage the Cowardly Dog

You really think leaving the middle east will fix this? Cause tell that to the rebels in Asian, not middle asia, deep south eastern asia, even Australia and new Zealand. This terrorist group wants there to be NOTHING BUT Islaam and will kill anything to achieve that. SOme moderate muslims are mad we're int he middle east but the main Al Qaeda type hate that we exist at all.

Originally Posted by The Good Reverend Roger

1. Assumes facts not in evidence. There is no reason to believe that the AQ members in Iraq aren't NEW. After all, the senior leadership (the people that matter) are safely in Pakistan. Why go to Iraq?).

2. Proof that these people were hiding in the closet? Musta been a big closet, and the average member must have joined at age 9.

3. There have always been terrorists. Unfortunately, even the Pentagon agrees that there are more now that there were in April/May of 2003, in AQ alone.

Problem is, you can kill all you like, they'll just make more. If you don't get the planners and the money men, you haven't succeeded at all. Assuming that only 1% of Muslims are extremists, and given a 4+ birthrate, there is literally an endless supply of dumbasses on the ground.

Which is why you always lose a war of attrition in counter-insurgency. Always.

Originally Posted by RussoNWM

War is like starting a fire.

It tends to grow rather rapidly at first, but then eventually it all burns out.

Originally Posted by RussoNWM

I don't see the problem there. If you look far enough ahead, 100 years is nothing.

Originally Posted by RussoNWM

War is like starting a fire.

It tends to grow rather rapidly at first, but then eventually it all burns out.

Originally Posted by KevinTheOmnivore

Please stop doing this.

Originally Posted by The Good Reverend Roger

Just saying.

Originally Posted by Courage the Cowardly Dog

I think they are just dangerous if not less with a lot more operatives captured. Befor 2001 we had the same amount just they were in hiding now they have to come out and fight and be counted.

Invading Iraq didn't cause more people to join Al Qeada it caused more of them to come out of the closet and fight. Invading it gave us a front to fight them on. Now we have very few insurgents and most of the fighting is over sectarian violence.

Just because we didn't SEE to many terrorists befor 2001 doesn't mean they weren't always there. It is just that only now do we go to fight them.

Originally Posted by The Good Reverend Roger

Which country are you talking about?

We were attacked by AQ operating out of Afghanistan. We sent a token force after them, and moved on to flatten Iraq, for no appparent reason. Now Iraq is a festering pile of anarchy into which AQ HAS moved.

End result: AQ is now far more dangerous than they were in October of 2001.

Like I said, I like the original post, but that ain't gonna be what happens.

Originally Posted by RussoNWM

The United States does what it has to in order to prevent extremists from training fighters against us. If a country can not control the mercenaries in their region, then they certainly aren't going to stop the US from coming in and destroying those mercenaries.

Originally Posted by RussoNWM

This is in reference to the Al-Qaeda threat saying that American Muslims may not have much time left to join their cause...

I say to Al-Qaeda, bring it on, you human filth. America will come back and fuck you up again.

Blow up a bomb in the US? We will blow up thousands in your country. Fuck you, Al-Qaeda, and fuck your whole pathetic movement. You can't scare me, you are a bunch of pussies.

There is no room in this world for you, and your movement only makes it easier for me to turn a blind eye when your countrymen are dying to the guns of my countrymen.