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Dec 23rd, 2003 06:42 PM
pjalne I just went out to find the last gift of the season and found a children's book retelling The Return of the King. It left out all the death stuff and condensed the entire story to about fifty pages, half of which were pictures. I especially liked the ending: "And finally Frodo and Sam got to Mount Doom to destroy the ring. All of a sudden Gollum appeared, but it was too late. The end." (paraphrased)

What was interesting was that it featured a picture of Aragorn patching Faramir up in the houses of healing. Guess that one can be confirmed for the extended scene list.
Dec 23rd, 2003 01:57 PM
Protoclown I can't argue with that! (Unless I was gay like James LOLOLOL)
Dec 23rd, 2003 01:42 PM
Urban2 Michelle Rodriguez is a hotty.
Dec 23rd, 2003 12:16 PM
Okey Dokey

Well, it' s been ages since I read the books, otherwise I doubt the scene would've seemed strange to me. I originally thought that Gandalf killed the witch king (told ya, it's been a LONG time).

The line in particular just seemed like something Michelle Rodriguez would say in a flick to me.

Maybe I'm just a misogynist.
Dec 22nd, 2003 08:20 PM
HickMan Immortal Goat is confused. There, of course, will be a set of all LOTR movies that will be over 10 hours long .
Dec 22nd, 2003 07:49 PM

Did anybody else not like the "I am no man!" line? It seemed to be trying to like, score grrl power points or something to me.
The Clown's right, this is very much what Tolkien intended. I think it may actually have something to do with his dislike of Macbeth. In Shakespeare's play Macbeth supposedly cannot be killed by any man born of a woman. Eventually Macbeth is killed by some guy cut out of his mother's womb. Tolkien probably saw this as a huge cop-out and decided to do it right in ROTK. I thought the movie was awesome in how it handled it.

The Ents were also inspired in part by Tolkien's dissappointment with Macbeth but you knew that if you watched all the TT extra discs.

Let me also say that ROTK was truly Peter Jackson's Christmas gift to the world.
Dec 22nd, 2003 05:56 PM

Don't roll your goddamn eyes at me!!!
Dec 22nd, 2003 05:18 PM
Re: .

Originally Posted by Snatchtastic
I know it will be on the extended edition DvD, but I was really hoping to see the scene where Merry pledges his allegience to Theoden.
Yeah, I know. That scene totally wasn't in the movie.
Dec 22nd, 2003 02:38 PM

Eowyn fucking up the Witch King was my favorite part of the show, I saw the movie again yesterday and completely spunked in my beverage at how fucking dope this movie is.

I know it will be on the extended edition DvD, but I was really hoping to see the scene where Merry pledges his allegience to Theoden.
Dec 22nd, 2003 01:28 PM
Protoclown Plus it's pretty much straight out of the book.
Dec 22nd, 2003 01:06 PM
Daphne I liked it, it's not like she said 'I'm a chick, motherfucker'
Dec 22nd, 2003 11:58 AM
AChimp That line made me want to ravage Eowyn like the hot not-a-man she is.
Dec 22nd, 2003 11:39 AM
THe one part...

I suppose this could be a spoiler...

Did anybody else not like the "I am no man!" line? It seemed to be trying to like, score grrl power points or something to me.
Dec 22nd, 2003 05:33 AM
pjalne They've working on a rights issue concerning the Hobbit. It might be made, and I'll see it if it is, but I'll be mighty pissed if Ian Holm doesn't play Bilbo.

And I was hoping the part where Sam puts the ring on would be in the extended cut, but now that I look back on the film it probably won't, seeing how they made a point of not telling us Sam had it when Frodo is sure it's been brought to Sauron.

EDIT: And yeah, looks like the extended edition will be about five hours long. Which means we'll probably get Houses of Healing and that whole Faramir thing that goes on there, Voice of Saruman will of course be in it, probably a bit more battle footage of the blink-and-you'll-miss-'em army of the dead, and hopefully less slo-mo laughter and gay jumping in bed. Although I'll have to agree with whoever said it that the moment when Gimli comes through the door was pretty funny.
Dec 22nd, 2003 02:21 AM
KevinTheOmnivore No, I agree, and clearly after seeing the movie I understand that. I was just curious, cuz I wanted to perhaps this time read the books b/f Peter Jackson could get his hands on them. (although I hear the Hobbit isalready in the works....?)
Dec 22nd, 2003 02:13 AM
Protoclown I don't really know. He wrote a lot of histories and other stories about Middle Earth, but none of them ever interested me. I don't see how Sam could have ended up with the One Ring though at any point since it was destroyed.
Dec 22nd, 2003 02:04 AM
KevinTheOmnivore Gotcha, thanks. Are there any writings after this trilogy...?
Dec 22nd, 2003 02:01 AM
Protoclown Peter Jackson cut 1 hour and 5 minutes from the rough theatrical cut of ROTK to get to the finished print we saw in the theater. Take also into account that he probably set aside some footage straight off the bat that he only ever intended for the extended version. Ian McKellan has recently said that he believes that the Extended version of the movie could be 5 hours long. I'll certainly believe it could end up that way and I hope they add as much back in as is possible without the narrative screeching to a halt.

Kevin, what those Tolkien geeks must have been referring to was the part where Sam gets the ring for a little while as Frodo is held captive in the tower of Cirith Ungol (I only remember that name because I have the soundtrack and there is a track by that title...oh, and yes, Pippin's singing is on it). The only major difference between that part of the movie and the book is that in the book Sam actually USES the ring to turn invisible and sneak into the tower to save Frodo. But that's it. Sam doesn't end up with the ring. The events where the ring is dealt with once and for all are pretty much depicted exactly as they are in the book.
Dec 22nd, 2003 02:00 AM
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Dec 22nd, 2003 01:59 AM
KevinTheOmnivore HA HA HA

We should be I-Mockery friends now......
Dec 22nd, 2003 01:55 AM
Urban2 But I would end up unconscious if I... oh wait now I get it, and now I would like to say:

Dec 22nd, 2003 01:53 AM
KevinTheOmnivore Clearly, the point you were supposed to absorb was that I went to the movie with a preconceived notion of how the movie would end, hence my entire reason for posting in this thread.

Clearly, you didn't get that.

And clearly, you need to stop breathing.
Dec 22nd, 2003 01:45 AM
Urban2 How would Sam end up with the ring, it's destroyed so there's no way he could end up with it. How do you not know this? You said you just saw the movie.
Dec 22nd, 2003 01:32 AM
Originally Posted by pjalne
What I learned in the theater is that people are fucking tools. They're so used to being dictated how to react by canned laughter and movies far too bound to convention that they can't watch a gerne-bending film without annoying the hell out of me. If Gimli has one funny line, they'll laugh at EVERY FUCKING LINE HE HAS, because someone who has a funny line in a movie is a comic relief and all their lines should be laughed at. So if he's asked if he can picture himself falling alongside a friend and answers "Aye. I could do that." that of course is meant to be a joke. If Frodo makes pained faces at camera from being stung by a giant spider, that's funny, because grimaces are funny. And when he appears to be dead and is covered in cobwebs, it's funny cuz he's looks like a mummy and is pale lol! Gollum is animated, so he's the wacky sidekick. And when a wacky sidekick makes a face, it's funny regardless of whether he's just realizing he's being melted alive in a pool of lava or not. And spiders are icky, so whenever a movie cuts to a spider the correct response is saying "Eeeeeeeew!" so everyone can hear how yucky the spider is. These are the same people who laugh when they watch Nosferatu because it's in fast-motion and Benny Hill is in fast motion. I fucking hate people. Also, three cellphones. Three fucking cellphones.

I just saw this, and although I didn't think it was as great as everyone is saying, it was a good movie. I however nearly had the experience ruined by retards who had to snicker and giggle every time Sam and Frodo had a semi-emotional moment together that seemed intimate. It got so bad that at one point near the end I just had to say out loud "HA HA! I GET IT NOW, THEY'RE GAY! HA HA!!"

Now, I have some questions here. And before anyone asks, NO, I have never read the Tolkien books. NO, I haven't read any of the other pages in this thread, so if you already touched upon this then I'm sorry. But redundancy is a skill on these boards, so whatever. Anyway, I had heard that Sam ends up with the ring. I heard this from more than one sci-fi, Tolkien Nazi. Was I just fooled, or am I missing something...? Oh, uh, "SPOILERS"...
Dec 21st, 2003 08:29 PM
Krythor I can't even imagine ten hours worth of material being written for the final screenplay draft. If you're right, I will eat my own face.
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