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Oct 19th, 2004 03:25 PM
mburbank At least for me, Hillary would have a lot of credability restoring to do before I found her a believable leftist candidate. Now, truthfully, I'm not at all up on her NY record. But during her husbands presidency I had great hopes for child welfare in America. She was a great friend of marrion Wright Eddleman, and had been a childs rights advocate.

I know she wasn't president, and I know her husband didn't go very far out of his way to take her seriously post healthcare, but the state of child welfare went downhill during the Clinton years. Bill pandered a lot of times when he could have used his amazing rehetorical skills to make a case. She would need to prove herself less married to power than he was before I could like her.
Oct 19th, 2004 04:49 AM
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Then, he made devil horns with his fingers and flicked his tongue while prancing around the stage for 30 minutes screaming unintelligible curses.
See, I think just half that time would've been enough to make his point, and he could've spent the remaining fifteen minutes performing an amusing puppet show.
Oct 18th, 2004 11:17 PM
Preechr The sad part is, and I don't mean to sound completely assholey with this, but it's likely that we'll be having a similar conversation about Kerry in 4 years when Hillary's running against John McCain...

At least she'll be a candidate real people of the left will believe in. Hopefully.
Oct 18th, 2004 11:12 PM
Jeanette X Dammit, I need to pay better attention. :/
Oct 18th, 2004 11:10 PM
Preechr Um, Ok.

Recent Speeches by Al Gore

Gore's Remarks At The 2004 Democratic Convention
Gore Says Bush Lied To Push For War In Iraq
Gore Calls for the Resignation of the Bush Team
Gore Speaks on the Use of "Fear" in Politics
Gore Speaks on Global Warming and the Environment
Gore Calls for the Repeal of the Patriot Act
Gore Blasts Bush for Mis Leading America
Gore Speaks On The Build Up To War With Iraq and The War On Terror
Gore Speaks On Matching our Nation's Economic Course to Our Current Realities
Oct 18th, 2004 10:46 PM
Jeanette X It's about fucking time Gore said something.
Oct 18th, 2004 09:59 PM
Preechr
Al Gore finishes going completely bat-shit.

Gore Says Bush Governs from 'Love of Power'

Mon Oct 18, 3:50 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush governs from a "love of power" and right-wing ideology rather than religious beliefs, and he has yet to hold anyone in his administration accountable for mistakes, former Vice President Al Gore said on Monday.


As the campaign by Bush and Democrat John Kerry for president headed into the last stretch before the Nov. 2 election, Gore criticized his rival for the White House four years ago on Iraq and other issues.


"I'm convinced that most of the president's frequent departures from fact-based analysis have much more to do with right-wing political and economic ideology than with the Bible," Gore said in a speech at Georgetown University.


"It is love of power for its own sake that is the original sin of this presidency," he said.


He painted the Bush administration and its "right-wing" supporters as pursuing policies for the wealthy and powerful at the expense of the rest of the country.


"The essential cruelty of Bush's game is that he takes an astonishingly selfish and greedy collection of economic and political proposals and then cloaks them with a phony moral authority, thus misleading many Americans ... who have a deep and genuine desire to do good in the world," Gore said.


"And in the process, he convinces them to lend unquestioning support for proposals that actually hurt their families and their communities," he said.


"Truly, President Bush has stolen the symbolism and body language of religion and used it to disguise the most radical effort in American history to take what rightfully belongs to the American people and give as much of it as possible to the already wealthy and privileged," he said.


Gore also criticized Bush for not holding anyone in his administration accountable for problems.


He said Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had not been held accountable for "the most shameful and humiliating violation of American principles in recent memory" in the interrogations of prisoners in Iraq.




Then, he made devil horns with his fingers and flicked his tongue while prancing around the stage for 30 minutes screaming unintelligible curses.

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