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Jul 9th, 2011 04:08 AM

LordSappington

well, I think the biggest reasons they didn't market it were:
1. It was huge, bulky, and unfinished
2. It was horribly unsafe and expensive
3. All Aperture has ever really cared about was just fucking around with science and making new things. The shitloads of money were just a plus to do more science with.

Jul 9th, 2011 03:02 AM

Wiffles

OK heres a rational explaination why they didnt sell the portal gun back in the day.. it basically peeled off your skin if you tried to enter it, because a proper portal conducting surface wasnt invented yet... as heard from the audio clips

This was before they invented the Conversion Gel which I assumed they use it to paint their test facilities with too.

Still, they had a portal gun (bulky) and conversion gel back in the 80s. This was also when cave Johnson was terminally ill (due to the convesion gel), so I guess they werent able to market it properly. Carolyn, the new owner of the company probably didnt know what to do with it either.

Jul 9th, 2011 02:42 AM

executioneer

lets hope valve's steam doesn't run out ha ha ahha oh god kill me

Jul 9th, 2011 02:38 AM

Fathom Zero

Cave Johnson died and I think a lot of the steam ran out of the company when that happened.

Jul 8th, 2011 05:48 PM

LordSappington

Aperture wasn't about marketing. It was about doing science, because WHY NOT?

Jul 8th, 2011 12:39 PM

Wiffles

The 50's gun they had was huge and prolly emitted radiation due to its reactor. Glados made the new version though. But yeah it seems dumb for APERTURE to not release it back then... maybe they were looking to refine the design further?

I never really thought how much they retconned the old story of Portal gun being invented after Cave's death. Absolutely makes no business sense, the again Aperture science never made any sense

Jul 8th, 2011 11:04 AM

Phoenix Gamma

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The Aperture Science Handheld Portal Device, originally marketed in the 1950's as an Aperture Science Portable Quantum Tunneling Device, also commonly known as a Portal Gun or by its acronym, "ASHPD", is an experimental tool used to create two portals through which objects can pass.

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1950's

Nope.

Jul 8th, 2011 09:55 AM

Wiffles

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Originally Posted by Chojin

some things that i didn't think were as cool

Spoilers!
Sooo aperture's had portal technology since the 40s? But never sold it or anything for 70 years? The glados=caroline thing was neat, but it would have been a lot better if they hadn't beaten you over the head with it and outright explained it in the credits song. I would have preferred they left it at glados saying "why do those people look so familiar" when you look at the hidden portrait, and the special turrent saying "she was caroline" if you hold her for a while. then again it's important in explaining why glados saves you at first, but i still would have preferred to have been left wondering. Maybe it's just my latent homosex for marathon that makes me want everything to be a secret. Also my anus was firmly clenched during the end elevator ride when all the turrets were singing. I expected them to open fire at any moment.

Spoilers!
portal gun was actually developed by glados, years after civilization as we know it ended. It was never sold because human kind was almost wiped out during HL1. Aperture didnt have portals prior to that, only gels and stuff..

took me like 15+ hours to finish the game. because i like looking for small details rather than running through everything ^^

Apr 27th, 2011 02:29 AM

LordSappington

They probably realized that clever/retarded players would probably rip off every piece of the walls they could, leaving everything a huge mess. I think it'd also subtract some of the hopeless feel to it; when you're in a test chamber, you're not in control, and being able to rip off panels at your whim might hamper that feeling a little.
That's how I felt, anyways.

Apr 27th, 2011 02:11 AM

Phoenix Gamma

Yea, there was an ARG maybe a year ago where a few seconds were added. Also, there's an official comic on sites like Escapist and IGN that covers the timeframe between Portal 1 and 2 and talks about Rattman. It's actually really good!

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Originally Posted by LordSappington

Excursion tubes were rendered pretty moot by the funnels or whatever they're called. No point in adding a feature that's like a less cool-looking version of another feature.

Even still, there were other levels that were yanked out completely that were shown in trailers to make the game easier.

And excursion tubes had the bonus of violently tearing panels off the walls. I was actually really looking forward to that since you could basically replicate the ending, but on a much smaller scale, and anywhere you wanted.

Apr 27th, 2011 02:02 AM

LordSappington

They changed the ending of the first slightly; at the end, something grabs you and drags you back inside as you fall unconscious.

Apr 27th, 2011 01:53 AM

Chojin

oh also how the fuck did you end up in the relaxation center after portal 1?

not a spoiler since this happens in the first second of the game

Apr 27th, 2011 01:52 AM

Chojin

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Originally Posted by Phoenix Gamma

The developer's commentary kinda spoiled some of the game for me, since every node is pretty much:

"We wanted to do this but we took it out because our playtesters were idiots."

Lots of stuff from trailers were flatout removed, like the excursion tubes. Plus, it kinda explains why I felt the game was so piss easy in singleplayer. Here's hoping for DLC, or user-created maps since it's Source SDK compatible.

i love the dev commentary, but on the ps3 you can't teleport between commentary nodes, and fuck if i was solving shit just to get to the parts where the comments are.

so now i get to wait a week+ until PSN wakes up so i can get my free pc copy ;<

Apr 26th, 2011 11:37 PM

LordSappington

Excursion tubes were rendered pretty moot by the funnels or whatever they're called. No point in adding a feature that's like a less cool-looking version of another feature.

Apr 26th, 2011 10:46 PM

Phoenix Gamma

Apr 26th, 2011 10:20 PM

LordSappington

Quote:

Originally Posted by dextire

Spoilers!
Maybe I just don't remember, but I didn't see anything that said they had portal tech back then. They had blue-gel, orange-gel, and moon-gel that made things portable, just no portals. Did I miss a key moment?

Spoilers!
They made multiple references to a different sort of portal device, like a back-pack version. I think it even had illustrations. That, and the puzzles are impossible without one, and how would you know the moon rocks made great portal conductors without portals?

Apr 26th, 2011 08:40 PM

dextire

Spoilers!
Maybe I just don't remember, but I didn't see anything that said they had portal tech back then. They had blue-gel, orange-gel, and moon-gel that made things portable, just no portals. Did I miss a key moment?

Yes! Parts like that really helped me to forgive the problems I had with the story and just enjoy the game.

Apr 26th, 2011 08:32 PM

LordSappington

Spoilers!
As for the portal thing, I think it can be firmly set into the category of 'Aperture Science is fucking insane and not much else'. The game made it pretty clear that nothing they did was taken much more seriously than 'DO IT FOR SCIENCE!' They did explain too much about the Caroline thing. I would have stopped after Cave telling them he wanted her to run the place, and not her flipping out about it all over the place.

I still laugh my fucking ass off whenever I remember certain parts of the game, like Wheatley's accent that GLaDOS can't hear.

Apr 26th, 2011 07:59 PM

Chojin

some things that i didn't think were as cool

Spoilers!
Sooo aperture's had portal technology since the 40s? But never sold it or anything for 70 years? The glados=caroline thing was neat, but it would have been a lot better if they hadn't beaten you over the head with it and outright explained it in the credits song. I would have preferred they left it at glados saying "why do those people look so familiar" when you look at the hidden portrait, and the special turrent saying "she was caroline" if you hold her for a while. then again it's important in explaining why glados saves you at first, but i still would have preferred to have been left wondering. Maybe it's just my latent homosex for marathon that makes me want everything to be a secret. Also my anus was firmly clenched during the end elevator ride when all the turrets were singing. I expected them to open fire at any moment.

Apr 26th, 2011 05:53 PM

dextire

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordSappington

Co-op is the best I've ever seen in a game, simply because there is absolutely no room to be a dick.
...I just kept dumping him in the water and hitting him with cubes while he was mid-air.

I finally finished single-player last night and can now look at threads about Portal 2. Absolutely fantastic game!

Apr 26th, 2011 05:11 PM

LordSappington

Co-op is the best I've ever seen in a game, simply because there is absolutely no room to be a dick. If you want to get anything done, you better be damn sure you're helping your partner and being at least friendly to him/her, or you'll either get dumped or repeatedly killed. I've only gotten paired with one asshole, and I just kept dumping him in the water and hitting him with cubes while he was mid-air. All the other partners I got paired with were total bros.

Apr 26th, 2011 04:55 AM

Chojin

i am in space

great game, good ending, 5 stars, etc

haven't even played coop yet and feel like i got my money's worth

Apr 22nd, 2011 05:43 PM

OxBlood

Finished Singleplayer today. Hell yeah, that´s how you make a good Videogame. The end was...just great, so great

Apr 22nd, 2011 05:39 PM

MarioRPG

I played both coop and single player today... I love it. I will end up buying this for sure.

Apr 22nd, 2011 03:18 PM

Fathom Zero

I finished it before I had class today. Yes, it's wonderful. Cave Johnson for President.

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