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Jan 19th, 2006 09:33 AM | |||||||
ziggytrix |
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Jan 19th, 2006 07:58 AM | |||||||
Kulturkampf |
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"Your[sic] pretty much a giant bigot anyway." I guess I will learn not to cast pearls at pigs -- I'll toss you some anal beads next time. |
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Jan 19th, 2006 07:37 AM | |||||||
Pharaoh |
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Jan 18th, 2006 06:57 PM | |||||||
Miss Modular |
Here's a GREAT deconstruction of OAO's philosphy: :cheapshot |
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Jan 18th, 2006 05:35 PM | |||||||
ziggytrix | lol @ people who don't recognize parody of themselves. | ||||||
Jan 18th, 2006 04:18 PM | |||||||
Pharaoh |
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Jan 18th, 2006 03:48 PM | |||||||
The One and Only... |
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Kulturkampf, your pretty much a giant bigot anyway. I think it's pretty obvious that social concepts play an influence on development throughout life. You can keep believing that depression is rampant because of chemical imbalances if you want, but I'll keep pointing out the fag who only realized he was gay at 30. And the new context is meant to be value-free and inherently unjudging. |
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Jan 18th, 2006 03:45 PM | |||||||
mburbank | seriously? | ||||||
Jan 18th, 2006 03:38 PM | |||||||
Pharaoh |
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Jan 18th, 2006 02:15 PM | |||||||
mburbank | true enough for the observation of it, but when you are doing the deconstructing of the idea you become at odds with the percieving of it. Don't discount the part where a person has to do the observation of the idea and how his being the perciever of the idea has an impactation to it in terms of the philosiphising about it. | ||||||
Jan 18th, 2006 04:44 AM | |||||||
Kulturkampf |
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You are so confused in philosophy you are convincing yourself you are a gay. Quote:
Derrida is full of shit. A white man is, and always will be, a white man; a poor man has the ability to become a rich man. Derrida is viewing it as if there are absolute ideas about what is white, and when he finds a white guy who likes hip hop he says: "See! Look! This man is refusing to be pressured and pushed into a social construct, blah," but in reality, no one thinks of it in those terms. It is people expressing themselves, doing as they please, and it does not take a bullshit philosophy. Quote:
Who says we are oppressed? We live as we are, and it is up to us to make our own choices and decipher the own causes behind things. I guess if you think you are going to find out who you are by exploring sexuality without any 'values' ascribed to it, then you are so lost you do not even know what your own body communicates to you. Who says we need to take things in a new context? What is wrong with the old? And why wouldn't the new context become just as repressive? In the new context one is evil if they are inflexible and unwilling to call themselves metrosexual revolutionaries; what if someone wants to be a stoic Warrior and has no interest in this fucking bullshit some tired old cunt wrote? Quote:
There is no point. When you 'deconstruct' it you will find you have just created a world that has absolutely no values, no sense of direction, but is rather only guided by your hair-splitting cynicism. |
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Jan 17th, 2006 10:25 PM | |||||||
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Jan 17th, 2006 10:04 PM | |||||||
Womti | I'm very glad that you've reached a conclusion. now please, go write a book on it, make tons of money, and shut up. | ||||||
Jan 17th, 2006 08:01 PM | |||||||
The One and Only... |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_constructionism Yes. Yes. YES!! What I am promoting is, then, social deconstruction, as a means of liberating both the individual and the collective - for only with the liberation of men will there ever be a liberation of Man. Reconstruction is a rebuilding of concepts in accordance with natural/external phenomenon, as opposed to the now-discarded conceptual premises. The central premise of reconstruction is to attach meaning to structures but at the same to strip them of their dogmatism. |
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Jan 17th, 2006 03:40 PM | |||||||
The One and Only... | Thank you very much. | ||||||
Jan 17th, 2006 01:24 PM | |||||||
Emu |
Subcultural theory and constructivism Helmut Werther Department of English, University of Massachusetts, Amherst 1. Stone and Debordist image “Narrativity is intrinsically unattainable,” says Bataille. The rubicon, and subsequent futility, of the cultural paradigm of consensus prevalent in Stone’s JFK is also evident in Platoon, although in a more neotextual sense. In a sense, the main theme of Long’s[1] analysis of capitalist narrative is not situationism, but presituationism. The subject is interpolated into a constructivism that includes art as a reality. However, in Heaven and Earth, Stone analyses subcultural theory; in Natural Born Killers, however, he affirms constructivism. The cultural paradigm of consensus implies that culture is used to reinforce the status quo, given that Derrida’s critique of subcultural theory is valid. In a sense, the subject is contextualised into a Sartreist existentialism that includes art as a totality. 2. Subcultural theory and neomodern theory In the works of Stone, a predominant concept is the concept of capitalist reality. The characteristic theme of the works of Stone is the futility of subtextual truth. It could be said that the subject is interpolated into a neomodern theory that includes narrativity as a paradox. The main theme of Humphrey’s[2] essay on postcultural desublimation is a mythopoetical reality. Wilson[3] states that the works of Stone are not postmodern. However, a number of conceptualisms concerning subcultural theory exist. Baudrillard suggests the use of constructivism to modify and analyse society. Thus, the destruction/creation distinction intrinsic to Gaiman’s Death: The Time of Your Life emerges again in Sandman. Sartre uses the term ‘deconstructivist narrative’ to denote the bridge between class and society. It could be said that Bataille promotes the use of constructivism to challenge class divisions. If neomodern theory holds, we have to choose between Foucaultist power relations and prepatriarchial libertarianism. However, the premise of subcultural theory implies that class has significance. Many situationisms concerning not discourse, as Bataille would have it, but subdiscourse may be found. Thus, the subject is contextualised into a neomodern theory that includes culture as a totality. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Long, F. T. Y. ed. (1979) The Stasis of Society: Constructivism and subcultural theory. Schlangekraft 2. Humphrey, O. L. (1992) Subcultural theory and constructivism. O’Reilly & Associates 3. Wilson, I. H. K. ed. (1981) Contexts of Economy: Subcultural theory in the works of Gaiman. Harvard University Press |
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Jan 17th, 2006 10:17 AM | |||||||
mburbank |
KultureKlub, OneofMany. OneofMany, KultureKlub. |
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Jan 16th, 2006 05:50 PM | |||||||
kahljorn |
"Perceptions are truths unto themselves, and what lies beyond them we cannot approach. We are supposed to break down are preconceptions, assumptions, and dogmas and return to perception so as to see the inherent flaws of our structures of thought. " All I have to say is, "The logic of perceptions". Perception is incredibly easy to work past, I think. Perceptions have a certain logic associated with them, and it's kind of illogical. By applying various perceptions to themselves and to other perceptions you can break them in a way, I guess. I don't really know how to explain it, I just do it. Observe. I wish I wasn't like 75 years ahead of you in philosophy/psychology/ whatever you're discussing so I could try to join in, but I'm afraid it's so far back your jargon is nearly a foreign language indecipherable due to it's lust for greatness. Seriously though. Logic of perception. |
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Jan 16th, 2006 05:46 PM | |||||||
ziggytrix | haha | ||||||
Jan 16th, 2006 05:44 PM | |||||||
The One and Only... |
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Take sexuality, for example. The very concepts of heterosexuality and homosexuality have become oppressive, since we drift towards conformity with a sexuality in order to feel normal and achieve solidarity. Only by taking sexual feelings as they come will we end the mindless self-suppression of our age and truly liberate ourselves. This process of deconstruction can be applied to a wide number of social constructs, such as race, ethnicity, class, morality, and so on. Once we recognize the implied values impressed by structures, we may begin to rebuild them in a value-free manner. The concepts of heterosexuality and homosexuality, for example, yet remain, but the oppression has been removed by putting them in a new context. Ultimately, what I am advocating is an individual experience, but certainly a wide circle of deconstructionist advocates will inspire more introspection than a lone man on a messageboard. And this is where I think I may find purpose in life. |
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Jan 16th, 2006 12:16 PM | |||||||
kahljorn | Kulterkamp is gaining friends and influencing people. | ||||||
Jan 16th, 2006 09:11 AM | |||||||
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Jan 15th, 2006 08:29 PM | |||||||
Kulturkampf |
And so perception is as close as we can get to truth, and we are supposed to break down our perceptions to come up with more true thoughts? Why do you bother having opinions if the world is just different perceptions, and neither is inherently right or wrong, being that the truth is unknowable? |
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Jan 15th, 2006 05:19 PM | |||||||
The One and Only... |
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In reality, I am not a true post-structuralist. My own views on linguistic matters are a mixture of structuralism, post-structuralism, and humanism. I feel that structures do not dictate our ways of thinking, but yet I do not deny that they play a critical influence on thought. Hence, the removal of the structural influence and return to the essential, perception, and formation of more accurate abstracts are emphasized in my views. |
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Jan 15th, 2006 02:06 PM | |||||||
AChimp |
Re: A Post-Structuralist Explaination of My Philosophy In my previous attempt to expound on my philosophy, I found myself dwelling too much on the specifics when what I wanted analyzed was the basic essentials. Using post-structuralism, I feel that I can more adequate discuss the fundamental nature of my thought. And there is but one central tenet. I must deconstruct myself. In eliminating the hierarchies and assumptions of my thoughts, I am left only with perceptions. Perceptions cannot be deconstructed; they are not thoughts or concepts, they simply are. It is only through initial deconstruction that I might reconstruct a new set of abstractions which better relate to phenomenon; deconstruction and reconstruction thereby become constant processes employed not to find higher truth, but to create a more adequate system by which to attain my ends. Yet there is no grand metastructure which is ideal for all persons; ideal construction rests purely on the individual experience, if it be true that others experience at all. Any common ground in the deconstructive and reconstructive operations amongst individuals are coincidental. Discuss. |
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