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Mar 6th, 2009 02:08 PM
Dimnos
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Originally Posted by Zhukov View Post
Are we supposed to be in a state of constant war? 1984 stylee.
Fuck that shit! Give me liberty or give me death!
Mar 6th, 2009 05:16 AM
Zhukov Are we supposed to be in a state of constant war? 1984 stylee.
Mar 5th, 2009 08:54 PM
VaporTrailx1 Yep, and the Spartans didn't help Alexander, because they refused to take part in a campaign that wasn't lead by the Spartans. Alexander had some commemorative shield on it that said something along the lines of "Thanks to all the Greek states, except Sparta"
I have no fuckin clue where this conversation is going anymore. I think it's time lock lock this clusterfuck thread lol
Mar 5th, 2009 06:11 PM
Dr. Boogie Opium fields, too, but I guess that could go under "money".
Mar 5th, 2009 06:10 PM
derrida Every thread Mr. Kampf participates in devolves into sweeping generalizations. It's basically how the guy thinks.

This is also probably the worst possible topic to generalize about, considering there's not much in common between, say stone-age raids in the Amazon and low-intensity conflict in the Balkans or whatever.

Strength doesn't really mean a thing in war outside of individual battles. Japan and Germany prevailed on the battlefield more often than not and ended up with a gelded culture and the lowest birth rates in the western world. History is chock full of examples of small but tough tribes that get slowly ground into hamburger by their weaker but larger and wealthier neighbors. (see paraguay) I'd say the single greatest weapon nowadays is demographics.

That said, someone should attempt to explain how the Peloponnesian war was a good thing. Agricultural aristocracy (Sparta) defeats commercial democracy (Athens). It ended the Greek golden age and enabled Alexander the Great to conquer Greece and use its blood and treasure to finish off the crumbling Persian empire. A nice achievement, to be sure, but didn't accomplish anything of lasting significance. After the death of Alexander the Seleucid empire was formed, only to be defeated by cavalry archers from the Asian steppes (a recurring theme).

Oh, and as a side note, what about the Afghans? Some of the best fighters in the world, and they only fight for two things: boys to rape, and money.
Mar 5th, 2009 05:10 PM
Tadao Weak of mind or weak of body? What are we looking for here? What Hitler called the perfect specimen? All those experiments showed that the offsrping were nothing like... Why the fuck am I even bothering
Mar 5th, 2009 04:12 PM
Big Papa Goat All this talk about the strong is ridiculous. Go to a gym if you want to be strong. And as for weeding out the weak, why weed them out? If they're so weak they'll weed themselves out.
Mar 5th, 2009 12:54 PM
pac-man Where do you get a stat like that from?
Mar 5th, 2009 12:53 PM
VaporTrailx1 Usually the strong (elite units and those most willing to fight) are pretty much wiped out in the beginning stages of the war. At least that was the case in both World Wars. You're pretty much left with rookies and unwilling draftees towards the end.

It's pretty much counter-productive in that sense.
Mar 5th, 2009 09:20 AM
Zhukov Do the strong ever win? I mean really win?

I don't think you weed out the weak through destruction, I think the better way to weed out the weak would be through education.

Killing the "weak" leaves nothing but an army of malleable soldiers or frightened civilians wiling to say/do whatever it took to not be seen as weak. Hardly Strong, in my eyes.
Mar 5th, 2009 04:15 AM
derrida
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Originally Posted by Zhukov View Post
Yes, hygiene, but uh, what? Is it a population control idea? Weeding out the weak for the strong?
I guess that's the idea, but the problem is the strong don't always win.
Mar 4th, 2009 11:52 AM
Zhukov Yes, hygiene, but uh, what? Is it a population control idea? Weeding out the weak for the strong?
Mar 4th, 2009 07:07 AM
Big McLargehuge
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Originally Posted by VaporTrailx1 View Post
I think nature gave up after the Black Plague
Spanish flu anyone? I mean it killed at least twice as many people as WWI.
Mar 4th, 2009 01:19 AM
VaporTrailx1 Didn't South Korea duck out early?
Looks like the Romanians are the only non-Anglican nation still going actually.
Iceland sent 2 people. What the hell is even the point of that? And I'm wondering how they got em since Iceland has no standing military.
Mar 3rd, 2009 10:50 PM
Grislygus Shee-it, if fucking South Korea feels like taking Iraq off of our hands and getting into a clusterfuck in Zimbabwe, you guys can have at it
Mar 3rd, 2009 10:45 PM
Tadao What? You're just babbling now.
Mar 3rd, 2009 10:44 PM
Kulturkampf
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Originally Posted by The Leader View Post
Because then we'd be doing what we were killing them for?
Only if we set up a shitty regime; that is why we should stick in until the very end.
Mar 3rd, 2009 10:40 PM
The Leader Because then we'd be doing what we were killing them for?
Mar 3rd, 2009 10:38 PM
Kulturkampf
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Originally Posted by Grislygus View Post
Blatant idiocy from intellectually crippled guttertrash, marginally moving up from his career as an unparalleled drunkard only to learn nothing. Fantastic.
I am still a drunkard. And still unparalleled.

The only difference now is that I have shifted focuses, I guess.

Tell me...

Why shouldn't Ba'athists be massacred and a democracy set up?

Why shouldn't Mugabe be fucking dead already?
Mar 3rd, 2009 10:36 PM
Grislygus Blatant idiocy from intellectually crippled guttertrash, marginally moving up from his career as an unparalleled drunkard only to learn nothing. Fantastic.
Mar 3rd, 2009 10:34 PM
The Leader
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Originally Posted by Kulturkampf View Post
War is necessary to kill off the lesser developed, moronic societies and to purify the nation of shitty governments.
Oh, wow.
Mar 3rd, 2009 10:33 PM
Tadao Sure it is.
Mar 3rd, 2009 10:29 PM
Kulturkampf Blah blah blah blah blah.

War is necessary to kill off the lesser developed, moronic societies and to purify the nation of shitty governments.

People get traumatized and fucked up but in my time in the Army I have also met a lot of guys who revelled in their time in the sandbox.
Mar 3rd, 2009 10:15 PM
The Leader
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Originally Posted by VaporTrailx1 View Post
Lemmings run off cliffs
That's not actually true, a Disney film crew drove them over the edge so that they would have something to film. Cruelty is our thing, not war.
Mar 3rd, 2009 09:10 PM
Dixie I DEMAND MORE DISEASE
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