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Jun 14th, 2005 08:45 PM
The One and Only...
Jun 14th, 2005 08:02 PM
Royal Tenenbaum Hey OAO, how about stop looking at porn 24/7? The reason sex prevades your life is because you allow it too. Just fucking stop thinking about fucking.
Jun 14th, 2005 07:21 PM
Emu Yes. Yes it is. Get in a line, girls!
Jun 14th, 2005 06:48 PM
ziggytrix What is that, a psuedointellectual justification for misogyny?
Jun 14th, 2005 06:19 PM
Emu It pervades every part of life because it is life. The fact is, sex has always pervaded every part of life in one way or another. In most, if not all, ancient societies, rulers and the upper class always had harems, rulers having upwards of a thousand women all to themselves, from all over the area. Simpler tribespeople always had a god of fertility and the focus of their life was to have more children, for economic as well as spiritual reasons. A little closer to home, the Christian church has a way of policing everyone's sex life right down to the bedroom. In fact, anthropologists are beginning to believe that our large, powerful brains and everything that came forthwith (philosophy, mathematics, psychology, and anarcho-capitalism debates on the pristigeous i-Mockery forums) evolved as a result of a sexual arms race between men and women. The books I've read that explained it best were Matt Ridley's "The Red Queen" and Richard Dawkins' "The Selfish Gene."
Jun 14th, 2005 06:06 PM
The One and Only... It's not the act of sex itself that bothers me. Or how frequently one has it, or with how many partners, or in what position. It's just that it seems to pervade every part of my life at this point.

I enjoy porn as much as everyone else out there, but damn...
Jun 14th, 2005 05:55 PM
Emu Why? Sex is life's raison d'etre or however that saying goes.

Also, I don't think my signature has ever been more ironic.
Jun 14th, 2005 05:52 PM
The One and Only... I hate to admit it, but the fixation on sex in our culture is really starting to disgust me.
Jun 14th, 2005 04:05 PM
Abcdxxxx Well it's a talent to repress the same thing you're fixating on... if that's possible ? ...but I think it's a bit like the way some approach race issues from a point of "White Guilt" or something like it. If it's not sincere, then it's more damaging. If you do something because you think you're supposed to or it represents a certain mind set you aspire to, then that's not really evolution is it? It's like playing drunk at a party to impress people. So now we're hyper sexual, and "New-Feminists" and sleazy frat boys want and get the same thing out of women.
Jun 14th, 2005 03:41 PM
derrida
Abcdxxxx

Westerners are probably repressed because of their fixation on sex, not in spite of it.
Jun 14th, 2005 09:21 AM
ziggytrix How can Tipler's Physics for Scientists and Engineers not be on there? I swear, I nearly pulled a muscle hauling that thing around, and if you dropped it on someone's head it could be lethal! This book was so dangerous that a few years after I took the courses requiring it, they split it into 3 seperate books because combined it was just too dangerous!
Jun 14th, 2005 07:30 AM
Helm There's Freud in there.

I agree we're still sexually opressed regardless of the constant fixation over sexuality in the modern western world. Good points all around.
Jun 13th, 2005 09:57 PM
Abcdxxxx Listing the Feminine Mystique is pretty darn peculiar. I can see some half ass arguments for most of the other titles though...not that I'd agree with them (or any list that omits The Protocols of the Elders of Zion...and while we're at it, did I blink or did they forget Freud!? ).

I do thnk Kinsey belongs on that list though! #4 is a bit generous, but it deserves inclusion. Why? Because it popularized the idea that a study doesn't need a valid basis to reach conclusions, that data can be collected with an editorial slant without a cohesive explanation, and that society shouldn't judge deviance of any stripe. Kinsey's "there are no bad guys, you have to try it first" approach had a deeper philosphical influence then it's credited for, and at it's core, the topic isn't so much sex as much as behavior, and morals. So now here we are, there's a really bad motion picture about him, Homosexuality is vaguely more acceptable, we're still really repressed though sex is everywhere, there are sex therapists and call in sex advice shows for under age kids... and it's not like we've progressed much at all. The Kinsey report was misleading, and as a result we replaced our sexual ignorance and repression with a different type of ignorance, and repression.
Jun 9th, 2005 06:05 PM
Ant10708 Is this a list of 'evil' books or books that have caused harm? Because a book about communism or anything doesn't have to be filled with anything controversial for it to become harmful. The KKK book wouldn't be on the list because the KKK is dying out and there book wouldn't be as harmful.
Jun 8th, 2005 07:40 PM
Helm first, uhh... no?


and second, to vince a book about communism is greater evil than just hatespeech.
Jun 8th, 2005 04:44 PM
Royal Tenenbaum
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His name was Mao Tse Tung, not Mao Zedong, or Moa. I mean, come on. And whether or not there's anything redeemable about his written work is something you can only say after you've read it.

I find this list hilarious. I do not dissagree that knowledge is dangerous. That's the point.
Would you say the same thing if a KKK Grand Wizard's book was on that list? Or if Robert Mugabe had a guide to being a racist cocksucker, would you find some value in that?

The whole point is those books ARE NOT on the list you fucking retard. Had they been on the list, maybe it would have made some sense.
Jun 6th, 2005 08:55 PM
Emu He pops in and out of existence from time to time.
Jun 6th, 2005 08:05 PM
The One and Only... Wait, when did Vince return?
Jun 6th, 2005 07:38 PM
KevinTheOmnivore
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I try not to think of John Shait is a complete and utter moron, but its pretty hard.
Checkmate!
Jun 6th, 2005 02:08 PM
Helm use the silencer, charles!
Jun 4th, 2005 09:05 PM
Anonymouse indeed, like how could a book be harmful?

Mustafa can read the koran and go bomb himself because he thinks allah told him to

I could read the Koran, and go back to eating my cheese danish and watching Charles Bronson in Death Wish 2
Jun 4th, 2005 08:59 PM
Big Papa Goat one could argue a lot of things.
Jun 4th, 2005 08:57 PM
Anonymouse one could argue that last night's leftover meatloaf was more harmful than any book ever written.
Jun 4th, 2005 07:20 PM
Helm
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Originally Posted by VinceZeb
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Originally Posted by Helm
His name was Mao Tse Tung, not Mao Zedong, or Moa. I mean, come on. And whether or not there's anything redeemable about his written work is something you can only say after you've read it.

I find this list hilarious. I do not dissagree that knowledge is dangerous. That's the point.
Would you say the same thing if a KKK Grand Wizard's book was on that list? Or if Robert Mugabe had a guide to being a racist cocksucker, would you find some value in that?
As I've said. I wouldn't know if there's any value in that until I've read it. Of course I prioritize because there's so many books one can read in a lifetime, and you have to go with those you think will be more important for your intellectual growth, but still... yes, I would not judge a book by it's title, it's cover or who wrote it. And in fact, even if I read a book that's absolutely hateful, I'd still learn a lot from it, by inspecting racist, bigoted people and how they think. I think it's important to understand people that are different from you. Any point of view is valuable, and it pays to study and understand it, regardless of whether you embrace it or not.
Jun 4th, 2005 06:57 PM
Emu
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Originally Posted by VinceZeb
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Originally Posted by Helm
His name was Mao Tse Tung, not Mao Zedong, or Moa. I mean, come on. And whether or not there's anything redeemable about his written work is something you can only say after you've read it.

I find this list hilarious. I do not dissagree that knowledge is dangerous. That's the point.
Would you say the same thing if a KKK Grand Wizard's book was on that list? Or if Robert Mugabe had a guide to being a racist cocksucker, would you find some value in that?
Well, somehow I think there's a difference between a book about a political philosophy and pure hatemongering.

Besides, even if it is written by an utter loon, you can't say there's nothing of value til you've read it.
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