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Apr 23rd, 2009 03:30 PM
Originally Posted by Aries View Post
When Joker was in the nurse's outfit he reminded me of Genesis P-Orridge. Somebody here must know who that is, right? Right??
i know who he is aries, now that i think about it i can kind of see where you're coming from
Aug 11th, 2008 05:15 AM
resident-adam Damn good movie.. holy crap this like re-established my faith in the Comic-Movie genre.
Aug 8th, 2008 09:10 PM
rise1revolt1 must learn to act like the joker.....
live on ledger!!
Aug 7th, 2008 01:59 AM
pac-man Well said, testtube, but I'll tell you why the ending cut it for me.

There's going to be a sequel. So, they recast The Joker, we find out Harvey Dent is alive, and Nolan does it all through clever flashbacks a la The Prestige. I don't mind the thought of somebody else playing this Joker, and I actually have a modicum of trust in this cast and crew because they've made two awesome movies. Great points all around, though, testtube.
Aug 7th, 2008 01:49 AM
testtube Got to see it at a single screen drive-in in the middle of the woods drinking lots o beer. Good fucking movie, mainly because every character, no matter how small, is important to the story.

But we're here to talk about the Joker? Sure! I thought he was fucking amazing! However he seemed so far removed from what I thought the Joker was all about that he could have went by another name and it wouldn't have made much of a difference. The Joker is about jokes! Kills with funny gadgets. Other than his pencil trick at the opening, a few brilliant lines near the first middle of the action and sliding down a mountain of money the character is a brilliant almost god-like terrorist/sociopath who doesn't do much funny stuff, I was hoping for more gadgets and jokes and bizarre shit mixed it.

The ending didn't cut it for me, Two Face barely got his trademark suit together before being offed, and just what happened to the Joker? Is he still hanging from a fucking building? Am I to believe he's locked in jail when its obvious he has no trouble escaping?

Its a fucking tragedy such a great performance will only happen once, but they could have atleast killed his character off.
Aug 1st, 2008 05:37 AM
Captain PirateFace The Magic Of Cinema Spleek... The Magic of Cinema.
(And after 2 plus hours your tired ass will believe anything thrown at you)
Jul 31st, 2008 04:28 PM
spleek soooooo, how did it explain 2face pronouncing his M's, B's, P's, etc......?

minor quibble, the movie was shot on film made from 100% win!!!
Jul 30th, 2008 11:12 AM
Cowracer Finally saw it last night.

A good movie, but to me, not a good as "Begins", and heres why. Chigago. Plain and simple. They expanded the scope of Gotham to such a degree that I find it hard to belive that one man (however driven, motivated, or equipped) can be more than a piss in the ocean.

In Batman begins, Gotham was tighter, more claustrophobic, and ultimatly better represented than it was portrayed in Dark Knight. If you expect me to buy into the technology presented in the movie, what makes you think I wont buy into the stylized representation of Gotham used before? Realism in a super hero movie can be overdone as well.

I did enjoy the reversal of the dynamic from "begins". Bats and Rah's al Ghul took dramatically different paths for what each thought was the greater good in that one. In Dark Knight, Bats and the Joker went down the same chaotic path but for different ends.

I also appreciated that Bats didnt have a new, totally restylled batmobile just for the bleeding hell of it. True that the left it open for a new one in the next movie, but at least we have an explanation why, same with the suit.

Finally, to the acting. Ledger was fine, but I think he missed the mark by a bit. To me, the joker historically does what he does purely for laughs, not to make any kind of point, just because its fun to hurt people. In the novel, "no man's land" Joker pushes his shinks head through the bars in his cell at arkham, and strips off his ears. He thought it would be a hoot to be sitting there, wearing his doctors ears, when the guards came for him. THAT'S the joker I wanted to see. Ledger came close, but I think his joker was motivated by the wrong thing.

Two-face was handled deftly as well, and the makeup was gruesome and stunning, but more importanlty, ultimatly beliveable.

Overall, this movie was fantastic, but at the end, I thought they could have trimmed a tight 20 minutes out of it, and made it better for the effort.

Jul 29th, 2008 05:39 AM
Captain PirateFace When I first heard that Heath Ledger was going to be the Joker I groaned...
"Oh No... Not that dude from "10 things I hate about you" and that horrible gay cowboy movie (I have nothing against gay men or cowboy's or gay cowboys for that matter I just thought that movie was boring as shit). But still felt really bad when the news broke that Heath Ledger had died. I remember the day it happened I was watching the news break in a Las Vegas Police Station as I was filing a battery report on my crazy neighbor who got drunk, pissed her pants and assaulted my wife and I (long story). But still, I highly anticipated the new Batman film as Bale and Oldman are truly (along with Steve Martin... I know, I know make fun ya assholes... but remember Martin before his lame ass kid flicks was pure comic genius) my all time favorite actors. And after seeing the trailer with Ledger as the Joker I was sold. I have seen the film 5 times with varying family and friends and never does this film become tired and old. What an amazing film. I was so truly wrong about Ledger and I kept thinking that this was the second time an actor who passed away kicked my ass with their performance, Brandon Lee as the Crow the first time, also a beautiful performance in a comic book related film (and I also had no hope for Lee's performance either and I was wrong then too). I loved the film and it is a tragedy that Ledger is gone after showing his chops as an amazing actor in a difficult role to capture. That's my 2 cents.

R.I.P. Amigo
Jul 29th, 2008 04:19 AM
Nick I demand more Two-face.
Jul 28th, 2008 09:12 AM
Mojomajik9 Just a great movie that completely redefined the genre. It really is the Citizen Kane of "comic book" films. I just can't remember the last time I paid my sheckles for a flick and actually got exactly what I wanted. Ledger was brilliant, evil, maniacal and completely twisted. He is now THE Joker. The I Support Harvey Dent badge when he visits Two-Face in the hospital was a nice touch
Jul 28th, 2008 06:47 AM
Odworthy Definitely the best film I've seen all year, possibly one of the best films I've ever seen. Alright, the Batman voice got deeper and sillier as the film went on, but that was only a minor flaw. The rest was sheer class.
Jul 26th, 2008 04:27 PM
Ken Hart I loved the part where the mobster asks Joker if he thinks he can just walk in and take his money, and the Joker responds with that completely offhand "Yeah."
Jul 26th, 2008 01:46 PM
Magic Flyin' Lemur Yeah, isn't it GREAT when you have high hopes for a film and they AREN'T crushed? I honestly think this is one of my top five all-time favorite films. I do agree with you about the Batman voice, too. Bale just doesn't have the voice for it. It's not enough to destroy the film, but it's a little... off. One thing I really love about these new Batman films is that his few one-liners feel perfectly natural; they don't come off as just snarky or "ha-ha, aren't I clever". They actually feel like something a real person might say.
Jul 25th, 2008 09:39 PM
Kybo Ren I think my MINOR distaste for Joker's performance stems from A: quality of douchebags who overly praise his performance <he's dead, say only nice things. aaawww.> and B: Not enough Joker. It'll never be enough even R rated. Heath's got the most Adult realistic version goin for him- but he still feels restricted, inhibited. I did enjoy Joker's uncomfortable ways when not in action. He seemed more natural doing business in a nurse's outfit, then pitching to the board of hoods. he did perk up for his "magic trick" though.

why was I the only one laughing at it's prestige though?

never enough Joker.

Also- Jim Gordon Has a son named Tony Gordon.<I think in dark knight mom calls him tony, but it's brief> he's a little older than Robin, so hopefully movie boy wonder dosn't show up ever. Tony might not be Barbara's brother <comics> so Jim's probally a dirty dog.

Title for 3:

Jul 25th, 2008 07:53 PM
yabuturtle Well I have to say that The Dark Knight was pretty impressive. It was a lot better than I thought it would be and it was much better than Batman Begins ( Batman Begins was good but a little overrated). Batman's voice is kind of silly though just like in the previous movie. I really don't know why he has to sound like that. It sounds like he forces it out. It's like...he's trying too hard to sound dark and menacing. He should sound more like Michael Keaton's Batman. Even though The Dark Knight was pretty damn good, I still think it was slightly overrated. And the hype was insane. Still, I enjoyed it a lot. The Joker was well handled here. Better than I expected. Although he didn't laugh as much I thought he would. But when he DID laugh, it sent chills down to my spine. Also I didn't know Two-Face was gonna show up here. I knew Harvey Dent was going to be there, but Two-Face showed up much earlier than I thought he would. (I didn't really read too much on The Dark Knight since I didn't wanna ruin any surprises that would be in store for me). And of course, this Two-Face beats the shit out of Tommy Lee Jone's Two-Face. As for comparing Joker's, I think it's dumb. All of the Joker's are good in their own way. I thought this Joker would be average, but Heath really surprised me.

Overall, the movie is pretty good. I'm not sure if it blew me away, but it was really close to doing that.
Jul 24th, 2008 03:28 PM
Fathom Zero
Originally Posted by Rebel Without a Sauce View Post
Empire Strikes Back is proof of that.

Waaait. I meant the exact opposite of everything I said there. I hate it when I do that!

Anway, The Dark Knight left me feeling dead inside.


This movie is a bit fucking different I'd say, you dull twit.
Jul 24th, 2008 02:09 PM
Originally Posted by bigtimecow View Post
there was (i think? i'm not sure) a comment from pac-man referencing the maxx

i cannot and do not want to imagine a maxx movie

I referenced The Maxx comic in another thread a while back, but other than that I haven't talked about it. The TV show was great. I'm sure they could do a movie version that wouldn't be a complete mess.
Jul 24th, 2008 06:06 AM
Originally Posted by bigtimecow View Post
there was (i think? i'm not sure) a comment from pac-man referencing the maxx

i cannot and do not want to imagine a maxx movie

have you seen the animated series
Jul 24th, 2008 03:33 AM
Jaimas This movie gave me faith in mankind.
Jul 23rd, 2008 10:41 PM
Rebel Without a Sauce Empire Strikes Back is proof of that.

Waaait. I meant the exact opposite of everything I said there. I hate it when I do that!

Anway, The Dark Knight left me feeling dead inside.


Jul 23rd, 2008 05:31 PM
Fathom Zero But people don't like movies that end on down-notes.
Jul 23rd, 2008 05:12 PM
comhcinc I have to disagree with alot of this praise. Mainly two points. The "Batman voice" was just silly and took me out of the movie every time. This movie was too long, it should have been two movies. The right place to end this movie was when the Joker escaped the police station.
Jul 23rd, 2008 04:39 PM
Fathom Zero
Jul 23rd, 2008 02:45 PM
bigtimecow there was (i think? i'm not sure) a comment from pac-man referencing the maxx

i cannot and do not want to imagine a maxx movie

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