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Nov 16th, 2006 12:55 PM
kahljorn George A romero's movies are all social commentary. that's why there's flesh eatting monsters roaming about that nobody will kill because they remind them of their family or something. his first movie was supposed to be a critique of the vietnam era, or so I've heard. I think it's supposed to be showing the social weaknesses of capitalism/america.
illadmit it's hard to see those kinds of things in movies, though.
Nov 13th, 2006 11:09 AM
sspadowsky
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yup zen's right. The social commentary portion was a total fluke.
Nope, Zen's wrong. I saw an interview with Romero last week, where he said the social commentary part of it was entirely intentional.
"Casting Jones was potentially controversial. In the mid-twentieth century it was unusual for a black man to play the hero in a film that starred white actors, and commentators saw Romero's choice of Jones as significant. Romero, on the other hand, said that Jones "simply gave the best audition."

If he was white, he still would've gotten the part.

Y'see.
I was referring to the movie itself, not casting Jones.
Nov 13th, 2006 12:33 AM
Ant10708 [quote="Geggy"]
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Once you're in, there's just no way out.
Maybe escaping once is possible but I agree there is no way he would of been able to rescue that asian chick and get out again. And what a cunt just kills herself over her vanity after he risked his ass to save her.
Nov 12th, 2006 06:07 PM
Geggy
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What is so disgusting about Hostel?

Banana custard shooting out of an asian girl's burnt eye?
It wasn't the eye thing. It was the psychopaths' idea of arousal which is to cut up a live person who's helplessly strapped to a chair that I found disturbing, and it makes the gore more digusting. It doesn't bother me when freddy krueger, chucky, jason or any of these slashers do the killings, because they're fictional characters that are not compatible with reality but in hostel, there are people out there who are sick enough to perform these type of behavior for the sake of gratification, let alone watching and enjoying it. ^^^

On the other hand the characters in "hostel" were annoying so I guess I was glad to see some of them get killed. I was disappointed the guy got away, the movie wouldn't have been as bad if he didn't. Since he was the only one left surviving, I predicted that he would get away. And in reality, he wouldn't have gotten away. Once you're in, there's just no way out.
Nov 12th, 2006 04:16 PM
Ninjavenom Eh, it was okay. I kind of hate it but kind of love it. Some of the traps were fucking great (ribsplitter, hogsplatter) and some were lame (obligatory shotgun to the head/face which is characteristically not destructive) but i hated every character except Jigsaw and the little girl :-/. Also, the electric saw could have been WAY better. I was actually really mad that he didn't run the fucker through with the saw with a sickening spray of blood and guts. That was a major letdown. Plot was boring and predictable, and i thought the music/sound effects were actually pretty obtrusive and annoying, and there were quite a few cheap scares. This one didn't have the same atmosphere that the first one did and the second one (kind of) had, in that it was more about Amanda + Jigsaw then it was about the people whose lives were in danger.
Nov 10th, 2006 02:05 PM
kahljorn yea but that was destined by the forest
Nov 10th, 2006 02:00 PM
noob3 kind of like how that shitty star wars movie soda can robot just met up with tat skywalker kid & it just so happened to be the son of his robot friend's maker (best friend) or somthing before the death star exploded
Nov 10th, 2006 01:53 PM
kahljorn a little bit of both. I didn't really like the movie but after i saw it my first comment on it was that it was a revenge flick. But i thought that was kind of lame because it makes it seem like you can have a horribly shitty movie but as long as you end it with the main character killing everyone who made him mad in the movie the movie will be fine. I don't know, it's just obvious drama/direction (not obvious as in I knew it would happen but obvious as in the type of response it's supposed to get).
Plus I mean come on the guy is driving away from the horrible place and CONVENIENTLY out of ALL THE PLACES in the world that guy could be he was buying an icecream cone on a street the main character just happened to be driving down. Too convenient of a plot twist I mean sure maybe he was in town getting his money or something but still...

i didn't really know it was a bandwagon most of the people I know liked it
Nov 10th, 2006 10:34 AM
noob3 are your agreeing with me or jumping on the i hate hostel bandwagon[/i]
Nov 10th, 2006 02:00 AM
kahljorn "it's not even a horror movie as a really great revenge flick. "

That's exactlywhat i thought of this movie. First itwas coolguyspartying with pornography for like an hour with some "historical" traveling and then onto a relatively stupid unscary movie and then some dumb goreforlike five minutes and they don'teven show them cutting the toe off and finally (conveniently) in thelast five minutes of the movie everybody who made the main character mad was killed in a series of luck and revenge.
Nov 10th, 2006 12:08 AM
Fathom Zero I think people like that are crazy.
Nov 9th, 2006 11:49 PM
zeldasbiggestfan Theres one part in this movie that made the girl 2 rows ahead of me and my girl toss her cookies and thats when the cop beats the shit out of his foot with the top of the toliet and rips it off. I thought it was funny as fuck and my gal was scared shitless. Classic. But other than that it wasnt too grand.
Nov 9th, 2006 11:01 PM
Fathom Zero The last great horror movie I saw was Slither. Now it's on DVD.

But the last movie that scared me shitless was The Mothman Prophecies. That tall thing with the eyes scared the Hell out of me because it reminded me of something my best friend's dad said he saw when he was a kid.
Nov 9th, 2006 08:49 AM
noob3 don't believe it, i got into saw III for free and was sad that i wasted my 90 minutes in the theatre! that's how awful it was. if you thought II sucked, saw III will be like watching dogs having sex
Nov 8th, 2006 07:59 PM
xbxDaniel Aight, thanks.
Nov 8th, 2006 07:57 PM
Grislygus Sure, it's worth a rental. It's trash, but it'll give you your gore fix.
Nov 8th, 2006 07:53 PM
xbxDaniel No, please explain it again, this time with more condescension.

Regardless of the debate on Romero's social commentaries, is Saw III worth five bucks for the rental fee, or not?
Nov 8th, 2006 05:54 PM
Zen444
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yup zen's right. The social commentary portion was a total fluke.
Nope, Zen's wrong. I saw an interview with Romero last week, where he said the social commentary part of it was entirely intentional.
"Casting Jones was potentially controversial. In the mid-twentieth century it was unusual for a black man to play the hero in a film that starred white actors, and commentators saw Romero's choice of Jones as significant. Romero, on the other hand, said that Jones "simply gave the best audition."

If he was white, he still would've gotten the part.

Y'see.
Nov 8th, 2006 02:23 PM
Grislygus Horror games in general will usually be more intense than movies, seeing as how you are directly interacting with the protagonist's well being.
Nov 8th, 2006 12:42 PM
Girl Drink Drunk I would definately agree that the violence in the Saw movies are over the top. However, I also I think that the situations that the protagonists, and just the thought of knowing that they have to do something horrible to stay alive. That's what makes the movie so tense. Anyways on violence and horror, blablablah, I think that there should be a good balance between gore and atmosphere (and possibly a good script. I mean, you gotta have the gruesome scene in a movie that makes your stomach (like when Kevin Bacon got that arrow driven through his throat in Friday the 13th. Shut up), and at the same time have a tense mood (and possibly ambient music like in the Silent Hill games). I would like to see a movie that is both scary by using violence and elements of atmosphere, and can still be taken seriously. Also, I actually think that the original Texas Massacre is a tad overrated, because really, it didnt scare THAT much. I mean, there were some moments that made me cring, but COME ON, with a name with the words "chainsaw" and "massacre", I expected a few gruesome chainsaw related-killings (which turned out to be one, which WASNT disturbing at all). And come on, how was I supposed to take that seen in the car seriously where that creepy dad keeps saying "YOU'LL BE OKAY" and keeps poking the girl with a broom. There was random violence in the movie (which was pathetic at best) like when Leatherface just gets knocked down by a hammer and saws part-way through his leg. What was the point of that whole part?. Well, thats enough of my rant, and if I want horror, Ill just settle for the Silent Hill games, because they are actually a lot scarier than most horror movies I've watched.
Nov 8th, 2006 09:59 AM
Grislygus If I want to see mindless violence and cheap thrills, I'll watch one of the Howling sequels. (While we're on the topic of Howling sequels, good lord, avoid "New Moon Rising".)

A film doesn't need nonstop shock and trash to be entertaining. My reference to The Haunting as "boring" was heavily sarcastic.
Nov 8th, 2006 03:40 AM
noob3 I just can't see how anyone could not find Hostel entertaining. I'm not sure what you look for in a movie, but I sure don't like to be bored. If you like boring movies, that's fine I suppose. Forgive me for enjoying my movies!
Nov 7th, 2006 06:52 PM
Grislygus I don't understand you anymore.
Nov 7th, 2006 06:25 PM
Sethomas Calling out a puerile, vacuous spade for being a puerile, vacuous spade makes one a pussy. I just love internet arguments.
Nov 7th, 2006 12:37 PM
sspadowsky
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Originally Posted by whatsisface
yup zen's right. The social commentary portion was a total fluke.
Nope, Zen's wrong. I saw an interview with Romero last week, where he said the social commentary part of it was entirely intentional.
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