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Sep 28th, 2004 06:24 PM
Rez even in the kevin smith movies i consider good there's always elements in his movies (the lines, plot developments, character development) that yell "amateur" at every turn. the man with little horns on his head in dogma is horribly written (and acted), most things that happened in mallrats were ill-conceived (though it was a fun flick), and JSBSB is, in the best light, mediocre. but you can tell smith gives a shit about what he writes, flippant or serious, and while sounds like an appeal to pity, it never makes any one of his films (including JSBSB) worthless. to me, there's always a funny bit, it's always at least watchable, and the more he focuses on dialogue rather than drama, the better (making clerks, chasing amy, and many parts of dogma his best stuff). but the real core of this is that he is a director among many, and despite obvious flaws, a cut above. the amount of shit given about someone like him is far too much for what he does, which is essentially being a writer who does movies.
i do love clerks and, yes, the actors who performed so stage-like on it, because it was quick, it was continuous, and it's message wasnt about bullshit or growing up. it even emphasised the inability to overcome obstacles which happens more often than not. that may not be radically different, but it's a factor among many that drew me to it. this sequel has me pretty neutral, so far, the best thing about it being that anderson and o'halloran seem to be game for it. the title is straight kevin smith though, awkward and amateurish, but nothing i've heard so far is putting me right off of it. i actually think it could be good.

and for the record, i do like the animated series.
Sep 27th, 2004 09:23 PM
Jixby Phillips sorry everybody i meant: you are really a moron.
Sep 27th, 2004 09:20 PM
Jixby Phillips You really are a moron.
Sep 27th, 2004 08:34 PM
bartman15 sorry everybody i meant:sorry, but i am always right
Sep 27th, 2004 08:34 PM
Crying Baby Jesus
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Originally Posted by bartman15
sorry, but my opinion is always right
like I am cool.
Sep 27th, 2004 08:31 PM
bartman15 sorry, but my opinion is always right
Sep 26th, 2004 07:14 AM
Carnivore
Sep 26th, 2004 01:50 AM
Skulhedface Dr. Pepper is a replica of Mr. Pibb, but it's a bullshit replica cuz the dude didn't even get his degree.

-Mitch Hedburg
Sep 26th, 2004 01:42 AM
Captain Goodtimes Hey Bartman I think Dr. Pepper is ver overrated, why don't you write 3 paragraphs about why I am wrong, fucking prick.
Sep 26th, 2004 01:31 AM
Jixby Phillips bartman, you are a fucking moron.

I agree, Kevin Smith is incredibly nice to his fans, and for that I have lots of respect for him. But how in the hell does that make him a good film-maker?

And WHY THE FUCK do you seem to beleive that every person here should have the same opinion about anything?
Sep 26th, 2004 12:53 AM
executioneer their movies are nothing alike except for the fact that they're terribly overrated
Sep 26th, 2004 12:51 AM
bartman15 oh my fucking god! i just read the best thread ever carnivore! thanks for giving that link to me. because after reading that and laughing my ass off i realized something, half the fucks on this message board can't make up their minds on anything movie wise and the other half either loves kevin smiths work or loves quentin tarentinos work. but listen to me very carefully i like these guys for 2 reasons seperatly. 1. kevin smith is nicer to his fans than most entertainers out there. 2.quentin is one of the best directors and writers in the film industry today. you can just look at one of his movies and see the effort and love that went into them. in closing i would like to say everyone is entitled to their own opinions but mine is that they cannot be matched because their movies are nothing alike and they are nothing alike so take these films for what they are in your opinion.
Sep 24th, 2004 09:42 PM
Rongi That's exactly why i like An Evening With Kevin Smith better than, well any of his films
Sep 24th, 2004 09:37 PM
Jixby Phillips Kevin Smith fans are m-m-m-morons

I think Kevin Smith is a fantasticly funny person, and telling stories is what he does best. Just not on film.
Sep 24th, 2004 08:58 PM
Miss Modular I TAPED THREE HOURS OF YOGI BEAR

Sep 24th, 2004 08:17 PM
Carnivore
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ok so if there is anyone in this message board besides me and carnivore who likes kevin smith pm me with their fav.
I don't know where you got the idea that nobody else likes Kevin Smith. His early works are almost universally lauded. I can't fault you for not knowing of the existence of previous threads on Kevin Smith because the search is disabled, but try http://www.i-mockery.net/viewtopic.php?t=12960
Sep 24th, 2004 08:00 PM
Captain Goodtimes or typos
Sep 24th, 2004 07:59 PM
Captain Goodtimes or Russ Meyes's Corpse
Sep 24th, 2004 07:13 PM
Rongi or Citizen Kane
Sep 24th, 2004 07:08 PM
executioneer or clerks badum pssh
Sep 24th, 2004 06:46 PM
Captain Goodtimes or jersey girl
Sep 24th, 2004 06:42 PM
Rongi
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Originally Posted by PSYCHOMAN!
Kevin Smith has never made a bad movie.
So, I'm guessing you never saw JSBSB
Sep 24th, 2004 06:24 PM
Captain Goodtimes I liked how this thread ended, chojin please delete everything before

Ka - BONG!
Sep 24th, 2004 06:22 PM
bartman15 sorry my edit is fucked up so i couldn't include psychoman. anyways i agree with psychoman brodie fucking kicks ass!
Sep 24th, 2004 06:18 PM
bartman15 ok so if there is anyone in this message board besides me and carnivore who likes kevin smith pm me with their fav.
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