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| Jan 12th, 2006 12:16 AM | |||
| AChimp |
I'm not an expert on 64-bit systems, either, but it could be that you have shit RAM. Sometimes it just goes bad or something happened while they were manufacturing it. Normally RAM doesn't really need to be ECC (the ECC stuff makes it more expensive). But based on that program, it's obvious that your memory access is what's slowing everything down. I recommend doing some more RAM tests or something. Then trying new RAM. |
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| Jan 11th, 2006 08:13 PM | |||
| Chojin | No, because I wasn't having an AMD problem, I didn't think ;< | ||
| Jan 11th, 2006 08:11 PM | |||
| kahljorn | have you tried looking on the amd support forums or anything like that? | ||
| Jan 11th, 2006 08:10 PM | |||
| Chojin | so i need to buy new ram? :< | ||
| Jan 10th, 2006 06:04 PM | |||
| MetalMilitia |
Im no expert on 64bit chips but last I heard you needed to use registered (EEC) memory with some 64bit chips. It has more extensive error checking than reguar DDR (its also more expensive). However IIRC you only need to use it with FX series, high end CPUs. I might be wrong though as its been about a year since I read up on the whole thing. |
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| Jan 10th, 2006 04:26 PM | |||
| Chojin |
Didn't see anything at all about ECC/Parity or memory in general in the BIOS. However, I did un-over-clock my cpu from 210hz to 200hz and changed CPU Spread Spectrum from Disabled to Center Spread (the latter is the default setting, I had set it to disabled based on the wisdom of a guide) The new system report is as follows: http://www.i-mockery.com/sysreport2.html No change. HEPS ME |
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| Jan 10th, 2006 04:07 PM | |||
| Chojin |
Okay so running Sandra, I got: So, it looks like we've found the biggest bottleneck. That's the right chipset (i'm pretty sure), but the memory speed is a bit high on the reference system (mine is 3200), so I tried again with something that was hands-down worse.  So, something is definitely fucked up here. Running the performance checklist results in this: http://www.i-mockery.com/chojin/sysreport.html Right in the summary: "Large memory modules should be ECC/Parity." I have no idea what the hell this means, but I'm going to go spelunking in the BIOS to see if I can't find out. Ideas? |
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| Jan 10th, 2006 01:58 AM | |||
| executioneer | man i sure do talk a lot in this thread! | ||
| Jan 10th, 2006 01:31 AM | |||
| executioneer |
of course SOMETIMES it is retarded and says stuff that doesn't make sense, like how it's telling me right now that my mainboard BIOS is too old when it's the most recent one on the ASUS download page 
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| Jan 10th, 2006 01:15 AM | |||
| executioneer | oh wait oops i mean the information ones not the benchmarks | ||
| Jan 10th, 2006 01:10 AM | |||
| executioneer | that might point out which system needs tweaking with anyhow, or you could just run each of the benchmarks and see what if any notes come up for each one | ||
| Jan 10th, 2006 01:04 AM | |||
| executioneer | "combined performance index wizard"? i think | ||
| Jan 9th, 2006 09:57 PM | |||
| Chojin | I actually think i do have that, which of its million components do I run for that though :< | ||
| Jan 9th, 2006 08:48 PM | |||
| executioneer |
chojin have you tried running sisoft sandra sometimes it can come up with a specific reason why your computor is not running fast enough 
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| Jan 8th, 2006 11:42 PM | |||
| Chojin | Well okay at FIRST I had at least 10 more FPS in Villains. Then the increase just sorta tapered off and eventually dropped back to normal. Dunno why! | ||
| Jan 8th, 2006 04:46 AM | |||
| Chojin | I do, I'll try disconnecting the 2nd drive tomorrow and we'll see if it makes a difference! My guess is no! | ||
| Jan 8th, 2006 03:32 AM | |||
| Jebus | do you have your 2nd hard drive on the same cable as your main hard drive, i think i remember something like if you have a 2nd drive on the same cable it slows the first to the same speed, although i slept through most of my A+ classes. | ||
| Dec 29th, 2005 11:26 AM | |||
| Chojin | I did have speedfan before the reformat and it would report the same arctic temperatures from the CPU. | ||
| Dec 29th, 2005 11:02 AM | |||
| MetalMilitia |
9 times out of 10 a dogey reading from the motherboard temperature sensor is down to the bios. Although I would suggest using 'Speedfan' to show temperatures as it has always worked best for me, and everyone else I know. As for the issues of higher GFX card temps, while it *should* be fine so long as you are not seeing any artifacts or vertex corruption you should understand that it may reduce the life of your card. However, as an 'enthusiast' you'll most probably change the card long before this becomes and issue. |
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| Dec 27th, 2005 09:50 PM | |||
| Chojin |
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So basically what you're saying is that as long as I don't see artifacts and I don't crash, my 3D card is safe? Also, recommendations on how to fix my CPU thermal sensor? I really don't think it's strictly a BIOS issue. Though I will rip out a floppy drive and install it anyway to flash it since it has some improvements. Maybe i just have a wonky BIOS that doesn't UNDERSTAND 64 bit processors and it'll magically fix everything. Wouldn't that be nice! |
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| Dec 27th, 2005 11:11 AM | |||
| MetalMilitia |
If your temperatures are completly wrong even in the bios you most probably need a bios update. Incidentally have you tried flashing your motherboard with the latest bios? (You'll have to find a floppy drive) A good tool to use to overclock your videocard is ATI tool as it has a built in artifact scanner. Although usually you'll only start top see artifacts after about 5-10 minuits of gaming. |
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| Dec 27th, 2005 09:04 AM | |||
| whoreable |
what program are you using to check the temp? maybe it is set for the wrong sensor(or one doesnt exist). In the bios it should show the right temp Usually with vidoe card over clocking you will start to get artifacts when the memory is too high and the system might crash if the core is too high. If you are really concerned read around and find the average overclock for these cards and see if you are close to it. |
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| Dec 27th, 2005 01:55 AM | |||
| Chojin |
I'm still having problems. But, I'm going to try to just muscle out of it by overclocking shit. So far this is yielding a 10-15 framerate increase when overclocking my videocard, but I have no way to tell if I'm cooking it as there's no temperature gauge on it. Is there a way to install one? Also, I'd like to overclock my CPU, but my CPU temp is reading at (-) 256 degrees celsius. So either my gaming problems are being caused by my CPU being at extreme sub-arctic temperatures or something is gonzo with that device's temperature gauge. How might I fix that? |
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| Dec 23rd, 2005 03:20 PM | |||
| Chojin | No FSAA is on. :< | ||
| Dec 22nd, 2005 09:17 AM | |||
| whoreable |
the only other thing i would suggest is to reinstall windows(32 bit) make sure you install the newest nforce drivers(get them from nvidia) first the order can be important!. then install the newest ati drivers. sounds like you did this though. I dont know what speeds you should get in Cov with that card, have you tried to compare to others with the same specs? what speed procesor do you have? unforturnatly my main motherboard died, but I have a similar spec system, with a nforce 4 board and a x800xl, I didnt notice really slowdowns unless quality was set really high and fsaa was turned on. You might want to check your ati control panel and make sure that it isnt enabled for some reason. |
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