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Sep 7th, 2009 01:57 PM
Tadao An eye for an eye.
Sep 7th, 2009 01:50 PM
Geggy The Home Secretary has released a man regarded as one of Britain's most dangerous terror suspects from virtual house arrest to avoid disclosing secret evidence against him, The Times has learnt.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6824172.ece

Can any one of you sound minded individuals explain this one?
Aug 24th, 2009 01:03 PM
Tadao Ok Geggy

Aug 24th, 2009 07:10 AM
Zhukov

"The Lockerbie bombing in 1988 - which many commentators and analysts maintain was the work of Iran in conjunction with the Syrians, carried out in retaliation for the shooting down of an Iranian passenger aircraft over the Strait of Hormuz in July 1988 by US missiles - came just two years after the story broke that officials within US intelligence and the US Government had conducted secret arms deals with Iran in an attempt to obtain the release of American hostages being held by Iranian backed militias in Lebanon. The money paid for the weapons was used to fund Contra death squads then operating in Nicaragua. In March 1988, Colonel Oliver North and John Poindexter, a former naval officer and National Security Advisor within the Reagan administration, were convicted in relation to the scandal, known to the world and to history as Iran-Contra.

Many to this day believe that it was in the interests of the US Government to conceal Iran’s involvement in the Lockerbie bombing in order to conceal the extent of the Reagan administration’s involvement in the Iran-Contra affair, which Reagan vigorously maintained he knew nothing about."

Aug 24th, 2009 06:01 AM
kahljorn lol JUSTICE HAS BEEN SERVED WITH THIS HEAPING SPOONFUL OF COMPASSION.

I hate this kind of shit really. Like this one dude in town got all drunk and decided he was gonna race some guy and he ended up killing some old lady and being paralyzed. They tried to say, "Hasn't he suffered enough?" "Isn't his paralysis enough of a punishment?"

I like how they've turned this case from something about jail time to something about basically, a death sentence. If we send him to jail, then he is going to die in jail. if you read the article, people are making similar arguments for his release that people would make against capital punishment. "We might be sending an innocent man to jail, who will then die."

anyway im tired
Aug 22nd, 2009 05:27 PM
Dimnos
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I would want the murderer to spend his last few days hours of agonizing pain with me.

Aug 22nd, 2009 12:54 AM
DevilWearsPrada
Aug 21st, 2009 04:58 PM
Tadao I would want the murderer to spend his last few days with me.
Aug 21st, 2009 04:49 PM
executioneer i'd want my parents murderer to spend the rest of his days eating flaming dongs
Aug 21st, 2009 02:30 PM
stevetothepast I would want my parents murderer to have to spend the rest of his days eating with a super duty weiner fork.
Aug 21st, 2009 12:18 PM
Zhukov On a related note, if your parents murderer was on his death bed, would you mind if he spent his last few days with his family?
Aug 21st, 2009 10:04 AM
Dimnos Block it? It has already happened and the dude is already back in Lybia. Even if they did have legal ground to stand on there is no way Lybia will give him back. Even if they pretended they would, they would just drag it out the few months till the guy dies. "Get real" is right.
Aug 21st, 2009 09:38 AM
Zhukov

WTF? This isn't a 'Let's see what we can do to get that terrorist back in gaol' thread.



The Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution is a branch of the Iranian military. But the Revolutionary Guards of Libya are also strangely linked to the name. Although I guess this is all poiuntless talk, since Libya accepted responsibility when it compensated families.

But Megrahi has always said he was innocent, so just because he is Libyan doesn't mean that he was the one that did it.

Some more interesting reading from wikipedia, because wikipedia is always true:

A circuit board fragment, allegedly found embedded in a piece of charred material, was identified as part of an electronic timer similar to that found on a Libyan intelligence agent who had been arrested 10 months previously, carrying materials for a Semtex bomb. The timer allegedly was traced through its Swiss manufacturer, Mebo, to the Libyan military, and Mebo employee Ulrich Lumpert identified the fragment at al-Megrahi's trial. Mebo's owner, Edwin Bollier, later revealed that in 1991 he had declined an offer from the FBI of $4 million to testify that the timer fragment was part of a Mebo MST-13 timer supplied to Libya. On 18 July 2007, Ulrich Lumpert admitted he had lied at the trial. In a sworn affidavit before a Zurichnotary, Lumpert stated that he had stolen a prototype MST-13 timer PC-board from Mebo and gave it without permission on 22 June 1989, to "an official person investigating the Lockerbie case". Dr Hans Köchler, UN observer at the Lockerbie trial, who was sent a copy of Lumpert's affidavit, said: "The Scottish authorities are now obliged to investigate this situation. Not only has Mr Lumpert admitted to stealing a sample of the timer, but to the fact he gave it to an official and then lied in court".

In a documentary entitled "Lockerbie revisited" aired on April 27, 2009, the film's director and narrator, Gideon Levy interviewed officials involved with the case. Former FBI laboratory scientist Fred Whitehurst described the FBI laboratory itself as a "crime scene", where an unqualified colleague Thomas Thurman would routinely alter his scientific reports. The interviews also revealed that the timer fragment had never been tested for explosives residue due to "budgetary reasons". Thurman, who led the forensic investigation and identified the fragments' Libyan connection, confirmed that it was the "only real piece of evidence against Libya" and when asked of the importance of the timer in the conviction of al-Megrahi, FBI Task Force Chief Richard Marquise stated, "It would be a very difficult case to prove ... I don't think we would ever (have) had an indictment".

Investigators also discovered that an unaccompanied bag had been routed onto PA 103, via the interline baggage system, from Luqa airport on Air Malta flight KM180 to Frankfurt, and then by feeder flight PA 103A to Heathrow. This unaccompanied bag was shown at the trial to have been the suitcase that contained the bomb. In 2009 it was revealed that security guard Ray Manley had reported that Heathrow's Pan Am baggage area had been broken into 17 hours before flight 103 took off. Police lost the report and it was never investigated or brought up at trial.




The news of potential release has sparked rage and admonitions from families of the US victims with their lawyers examining if a legal challenge can be mounted to block it. This contrasts with the families of British victims who, in general believe Megrahi to be innocent and support his release. When interviewed, the father of one victim stated that even if Megrahi was guilty, releasing him on compassionate grounds was the right thing to do and that Americans should "get real".

That's right America, get real.
Aug 20th, 2009 10:42 PM
Dimnos Im really thinking suicide bombing. Its gotta be a lot less painful of a death than prostate cancer.
Aug 20th, 2009 10:38 PM
Evil Robot How fucking hilarious would it be if this guy blows up another plane first thing after getting out?
Aug 20th, 2009 09:41 PM
Tadao Yeah, I find nothing that binds the 2 by blood. Either I misheard them or more likely they reported incorrect info.
Aug 20th, 2009 09:21 PM
Dimnos Im pretty sure Gaddafi isnt his father. But he did send his private jet to pick the guy up. I think all Lybians look to the guy as a hero.
Aug 20th, 2009 07:16 PM
Tadao So, are you in here to talk about the topic? You can keep all your little personnel issues in your awesome fuck you thread. After all, you learned how to quote.
Aug 20th, 2009 06:02 PM
MajorScales I'm thinking about all the characters Boogie and Chojin bombed and banned for this section to be left with this malingering lack of intellect.
Aug 20th, 2009 05:26 PM
Tadao I thought it was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_al-Gaddafi, but now I think I'm wrong. But Gaddafi is going to take care of him till he dies whether he is or isn't related to him. The news this morning called him his father, but I was awake all nigt and could have been hallucinating.
Aug 20th, 2009 05:18 PM
Dimnos Hes not Gaddafi's kid is he?
Aug 20th, 2009 05:16 PM
Dimnos Who the hell is his father anyway? That was something I couldnt dig up.
Aug 20th, 2009 05:12 PM
Tadao I'm sure we can at least detain him until he dies. He needs to die in prison, not in the comfort of his fathers palace while people praise him for killing innocents.
Aug 20th, 2009 05:01 PM
Dimnos
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What I don't understand is why the U.S. can't arrest him and put him on trial right now. He did after all murder Americans as well.

After reading up some, it appears that the original investigation and prosecution was a joint US & UK operation.
Aug 20th, 2009 03:02 PM
Tadao Yeah, it happens all the time. This guy though. He is the son of a very important man who has stuff we want.
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