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Oct 11th, 2009 09:40 PM
kgp4death
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Originally Posted by stevetothepast View Post
50% of what you post is filtered piss.

I'm not even a dick but you make it really easy.
No filtering going on Baby....this is 100% authentic, all natural piss.
Oct 11th, 2009 08:55 PM
stevetothepast 50% of what you post is filtered piss.

I'm not even a dick but you make it really easy.
Oct 11th, 2009 08:44 PM
kgp4death
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Originally Posted by stevetothepast View Post
we could just bring some bottled water up there.
yeah that's like a 10,000 dollar bottle of water. It takes a lot of fuel to get things in space. I think they actually drink filtered piss. Obviously you need some actual water but I think like 50% of what they drink is straight up filtered piss.
Oct 11th, 2009 08:18 PM
Fathom Zero
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Originally Posted by kahljorn View Post
yea you guys and your staunch belief in something as ridiculous as a MOON LANDING in such primitive times could really fuck us up in the long run.

didn't they find some crap living really deep underwater next to volcanic vents that might've been sulfur based rather than carbon based?
:O
They "eat" sulfur. But I dunno if they're made of it. I don't think that'd work.
Oct 11th, 2009 07:16 PM
stevetothepast we could just bring some bottled water up there.
Oct 11th, 2009 06:14 PM
kahljorn yea you guys and your staunch belief in something as ridiculous as a MOON LANDING in such primitive times could really fuck us up in the long run.

didn't they find some crap living really deep underwater next to volcanic vents that might've been sulfur based rather than carbon based?
:O
Oct 10th, 2009 01:55 PM
Colonel Flagg
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Originally Posted by Tadao View Post
That would be true if we had ever landed there.
Oct 10th, 2009 12:48 AM
kgp4death yeah the mars rock they found in Antarctica had some microbes and crap fossilized on there. Last time i checked that was still what they think. They say that a similar rock may of started life on earth.
Oct 9th, 2009 08:52 PM
Tadao That would be true if we had ever landed there.
Oct 9th, 2009 08:50 PM
Colonel Flagg I'm sure we won't bring back any dangerous microbes. :andromeda
Oct 9th, 2009 08:49 PM
Colonel Flagg Yes, Tad, I know there are dangers, and that there are all sorts of complications in returning samples to Earth, but in reality, we've already done that with the return of moon rocks during the Apollo program. Plus, it would be really cool to analyze Moon Water (tm).
Oct 9th, 2009 08:31 PM
Tadao HEY GUYS! I got a great idea. We'll bring some moon water back to earth to study! No no no, don't worry. I'm sure we are all immune to whatever we find, plus we have really really small filters. Plus what ever might be in the water probably came from the earth, so like we should be cool. Don't worry so much guys.

I know we aren't bringing any home, but you know that's the next step.
Oct 9th, 2009 08:25 PM
Fathom Zero Carbon-based life forms.

There could potentially be beings out there based on different elements. I know it's a dumbass example, but the movie Evolution was based around this premise. Though, that didn't explain why the aliens looked kinda familiar.
Oct 9th, 2009 07:15 PM
kgp4death so i guess they smashed a object into the moon to examine the dust cloud it generated today. Water as well as other materials are important for fuel purposes you have to remember 99% of the fuel they use is just to get out of the atmosphere if they could refuel on the moon they could do all kinds of crap in space. (water + electricity = hydrogen + oxygen = fuel) as well as of course water is main ingredient of known life forms. It will be interesting to see what they detect.
heres the video
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33215937
Sep 28th, 2009 05:01 AM
Colonel Flagg http://www.popularmechanics.com/scie...e/1283056.html

Tritium is most likely present in small quantities, but as it's radioactive it doesn't hang around (half-life of 12+ years). Helium-3 is present in the solar wind, and can be used as a nuclear fuel, but the solar wind is deflected by the magnetic field of the earth .... but not from the moon. Hence it accumulates in the regolith. Helium-3 is also the decay product of Tritium.

Plus, it's most commonly referred to as Tritium and not as Hydrogen-3.
Sep 28th, 2009 12:30 AM
executioneer maybe he means tritium
Sep 27th, 2009 10:33 PM
Colonel Flagg I think you mean Helium-3, oh Evil one.

EDIT: My apologies. I'm being glib, and not giving you proper credit. Of course, the primary reason for going back to the moon is the presence of Helium-3 in the regolith. I forgot, and you, sir, called me on it. Thanks for setting me straight.
Sep 27th, 2009 04:37 PM
Evil Robot China has some goal set up to be mining Hydrogen 3 atoms from the moon in the future, they say they can use it for nuclear fuel.
Sep 26th, 2009 11:02 PM
Fathom Zero Maybe the Moon could have an atmosphere, then, if only the water could evaporate. It's probably not warm enough for long enough to create such a thing, though.
Sep 26th, 2009 10:50 PM
kahljorn yea, that's what is kind of interesting about this article though is that it does shatter the worldviews that water has to come from somewhere else (like comets or something) and instead speculates that it might be the result of the sun which would mean that it could be everywhere. At least, wherever there are hydrogen rich stuff and no atmosphere...

I'd also add that any step to make it easier to get supplies into space will end up saving us money
Sep 26th, 2009 09:20 PM
Colonel Flagg I'd propose that the general existence of water on the moon is not - forgive the expression - earth shattering. In my worldview, it is more significant that water is turning up everywhere we care to look, if we look hard enough. The fact that it exists on the Moon and on Mars indicates that we might also expect to find it in the asteroid belt. It is in fact most likely that we will discover it is ubiquitous within the solar system.

Furthermore, the presence of water in quantity makes it a commodity that a proposed "permanant manned base" would not have to necessarily bring with them from Earth. As lunar regolith is relatively rich in light metals like iron, titanium and manganese, one might envision a mining/smelting operation being a commercial impetus, with the extraction of water from the regolith being an ancillary benefit. Not to mention that water + sunlight can generate elemental hydrogen and oxygen - i.e. rocket fuel.

And as for exploration of the solar system and space in general - well, that's what humans do. Search out the unknown and make it known. We've been doing this for thousands of years, in the periods of time that we're not blowing ourselves to smithereens, that is.
Sep 26th, 2009 06:25 AM
Fathom Zero I got pissed off, is all. I mentioned the ice on Mars and I got the same reaction I gave you.

WHY DON'T YOU IDIOTS CARE ABOUT THIS? IT'S FUCKING SPACE. IT'S GODDAMN AWESOME. Jesus.
Sep 26th, 2009 04:17 AM
kahljorn Why build telescopes to look into space when we can just look up at night?

Why look for life on other plants when there's plenty of life here?

Dimnos quit being a dipshit. You're almost as bad as fathom zero and guitar woman.

I don't even know if the purpose of this project specifically was to find water on the moon or if there were several other purposes but whatever. I'm sure they weren't as important as updating the hubble telescope and hey maybe nasa is hiring you should check that out since you've got decision making powers.
Sep 25th, 2009 11:53 PM
Dimnos Yes. Because that is what I said.

Why spend the money going to the moon for water. When you could say... up date and improve the Hubble? Or just about any other project than going to the moon for water. Its not like we are exactly short on it here.
Sep 25th, 2009 08:02 PM
kahljorn "No more missions to space," Dimnos.

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The news comes a day after it was also revealed that large quantities of water had been found on the surface of the Moon.
It means a manned base on the Earth's satellite could now become a reality within 20 years.

The discovery increases the chances of humanity living on the lunar surface inside protective domes, mining the rocks and dust for water to drink and power spacecrafts.

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Widespread water has been detected on the surface of the Moon. None of us had expected this 10 years ago,' Nasa's Carle Pieters said.

What a waste of money hiring this guy

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The water comes and goes during the lunar day.
"water is being continuously formed on the moon"

etc. you know some other differences is that they thought that water and ice were only around the craters. Furthermore, this discovery explains how water might've gotten on earth, as well, and add to our knowledge about how planets are formed...

whatever though ultimately its not worth the billions of dollars
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