Wouldn't be a proper "Peace in the Middle East" rally without a cop killer giving a speach and some anti-semetic ramblings, would it?

New black panther leader shouts racial slurs against Jews like Mel Gibson during happy hour.

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/20...-in-black.html

Iranian Revolutionary gaurd among the dead Hezballah combatents

http://reuters.myway.com/article/200...ANIANS-DC.html

Ambulences are the new Hummers. Hezballah and palestineuses them for troop transport. (vids)
http://ussneverdock.blogspot.com/200...h-suicide.html

Photo Op - Medics take injured backa out and pause for good photos. What kind of doctor?
http://ussneverdock.blogspot.com/200...lah-video.html

BBC says Lebanese PM retracts his statement that 40 died saying that onlt one died.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/5252842.stm
Rueters still wont change their old article
http://today.reuters.com/news/articl...1-ArticlePage3

British muslims 25% say the 7/7 bombings were justified and 9/11 was a jewish conspiracey.
http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=1145782006

A Saudi charity funded the Bali bombings that killed 92 aussies
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...7-2702,00.html

Palestinians kill snitches
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...286331,00.html

Olmert is a schizophrenic. That is all.

Is this about yhe ceasefire?

http://newsnow.co.uk/cgi/NGoto/155527408?-16529

The ceasefire is just the most glaring example of his inability to make a decision. The guy is all talk no action, and even his own party, and leftist Haaretz crowd are even in agreement on that one. People are not happy about how this war is being faught.

Who switches generals and readies ground troops for a premature ceasefire? Who asks an army to fight their asses off with a huge push, then 2 and a half hours later agrees to sign a ceasefire? THEN he tells them to keep fighting anyway till he signs the thing with some dopey plan to get a buncha troops to the Litani Riverin time for Israel to claim some symbolic victory. Meanwhile nobody in their right mind thinks any of this will stick. We know there will be fighting Monday.

Who takes massive military retaliation because 1,000,000 people are under rocket attack, and then suspends military action while the rockets are still coming down? Who announces their strategy on an hourly basis, complete with cabinet votes, troop deployments, and hourly goals with the route they're taking? All the military analysis keep wondering what the fuck Israel is doing, thinking there's some clever manuvering here, but nope, just a schizo PM who can sound like a Hawk at breakfast, and turn into a whimpering leftist by dinnertime. Israel keeps taking responsibility for events like Qana they don't even believe they're responsible for - not to mention bending over backwards to world opinion which is largely shaped by propaganda, and the UN's obsession with Israel. But the WORST is he want's to start more WB evictions in the middle of this.

good points. He is trying so hard to get international approval he is ignoring the main goals. But i do agree the "keep fighting till i sign it" thing. he needs to do all he can until he shoots himself in the leg.

But on the plus side if he changes his mind (lol, i said "if" as if it was in question), it's just the UN it's not like they have real power or authority.

WHY, WHY, WHY!?

Why does every story I read on this UN resolution have a title like "Hezbollah chief backs U.N. peace deal, with conditions"!!?

Does Lebanon even have an elected government, or do radical thugs normally broker treaties and cease fires for them....? Why is ANYONE other than the Lebanese government even TALKING to Hezbollah!!? The only necessary communication should be "when are you disarming?"

More blue hats with no authority at all on the border. I'll give this cease fire maybe a year before Hezbollah can reload and route through the peace keepers. This will start all over again, and I'm guessing those abducted prisoners are as good as dead.

The whole anti-Israel bunch shut the fuck up it seems in this debate. ha

Here's the full text of the resolution.....

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/...aft/index.html

The draft resolution presented at the U.N.

The Security Council;

PP1. Recalling all its previous resolutions on Lebanon, in particular resolutions 425 (1978), 426 (1978), 520 (1982), 1559 (2004), 1655 (2006) 1680 (2006) and 1697 (2006), as well as the statements of its President on the situation in Lebanon, in particular the statements of 18 June 2000 (S/PRST/2000/21), of 19 October 2004 (S/PRST/2004/36), of 4 May 2005 (S/PRST/2005/17) of 23 January 2006 (S/PRST/2006/3) and of 30 July 2006 (S/PRST/2006/35),

PP2. Expressing its utmost concern at the continuing escalation of hostilities in Lebanon and in Israel since Hizbollah's attack on Israel on 12 July 2006, which has already caused hundreds of deaths and injuries on both sides, extensive damage to civilian infrastructure and hundreds of thousands of internally displaced persons,

PP3. Emphasizing the need for an end of violence, but at the same time emphasizing the need to address urgently the causes that have given rise to the current crisis, including by the unconditional release of the abducted Israeli soldiers,

PP4: Mindful of the sensitivity of the issue of prisoners and encouraging the efforts aimed at urgently settling the issue of the Lebanese prisoners detained in Israel,

PP5. Welcoming the efforts of the Lebanese Prime Minister and the commitment of the government of Lebanon, in its seven-point plan, to extend its authority over its territory, through its own legitimate armed forces, such that there will be no weapons without the consent of the government of Lebanon and no authority other than that of the government of Lebanon, welcoming also its commitment to a UN force that is supplemented and enhanced in numbers, equipment, mandate and scope of operation, and bearing in mind its request in this plan for an immediate withdrawal of the Israeli forces from Southern Lebanon,

PP6. Determined to act for this withdrawal to happen at the earliest,

PP7. Taking due note of the proposals made in the seven-point plan regarding the Shebaa farms area,

PP8. Welcoming the unanimous decision by the government of Lebanon on 7 August 2006 to deploy a Lebanese armed force of 15,000 troops in South Lebanon as the Israeli army withdraws behind the Blue Line and to request the assistance of additional forces from UNIFIL as needed, to facilitate the entry of the Lebanese armed forces into the region and to restate its intention to strengthen the Lebanese armed forces with material as needed to enable it to perform its duties,

PP9. Aware of its responsibilities to help secure a permanent ceasefire and a long-term solution to the conflict,

PP10. Determining that the situation in Lebanon constitutes a threat to international peace and security,

OP1. Calls for a full cessation of hostilities based upon, in particular, the immediate cessation by Hizbollah of all attacks and the immediate cessation by Israel of all offensive military operations;

OP2. Upon full cessation of hostilities, calls upon the government of Lebanon and UNIFIL as authorized by paragraph 11 to deploy their forces together throughout the South and calls upon the government of Israel, as that deployment begins, to withdraw all of its forces from Southern Lebanon in parallel;

OP3. Emphasizes the importance of the extension of the control of the government of Lebanon over all Lebanese territory in accordance with the provisions of resolution 1559 (2004) and resolution 1680 (2006), and of the relevant provisions of the Taif Accords, for it to exercise its full sovereignty, so that there will be no weapons without the consent of the government of Lebanon and no authority other than that of the government of Lebanon;

OP4. Reiterates its strong support for full respect for the Blue Line;

OP5. Also reiterates its strong support, as recalled in all its previous relevant resolutions, for the territorial integrity, sovereignty and political independence of Lebanon within its internationally recognized borders, as contemplated by the Israeli-Lebanese General Armistice Agreement of 23 March 1949;

OP6. Calls on the international community to take immediate steps to extend its financial and humanitarian assistance to the Lebanese people, including through facilitating the safe return of displaced persons and, under the authority of the Government of Lebanon, reopening airports and harbours, consistent with paragraphs 14 and 15, and calls on it also to consider further assistance in the future to contribute to the reconstruction and development of Lebanon;

OP7. Affirms that all parties are responsible for ensuring that no action is taken contrary to paragraph 1 that might adversely affect the search for a long-term solution, humanitarian access to civilian populations, including safe passage for humanitarian convoys, or the voluntary and safe return of displaced persons, and calls on all parties to comply with this responsibility and to cooperate with the Security Council;

OP8. Calls for Israel and Lebanon to support a permanent ceasefire and a long-term solution based on the following principles and elements:

- full respect for the Blue Line by both parties,

- security arrangements to prevent the resumption of hostilities, including the establishment between the Blue Line and the Litani river of an area free of any armed personnel, assets and weapons other than those of the government of Lebanon and of UNIFIL as authorized in paragraph 11, deployed in this area,

- full implementation of the relevant provisions of the Taif Accords, and of resolutions 1559 (2004) and 1680 (2006), that require the disarmament of all armed groups in Lebanon, so that, pursuant to the Lebanese cabinet decision of July 27, 2006, there will be no weapons or authority in Lebanon other than that of the Lebanese state,

- no foreign forces in Lebanon without the consent of its government,

- no sales or supply of arms and related materiel to Lebanon except as authorized by its government,

- provision to the United Nations of all remaining maps of land mines in Lebanon in Israel's possession;

OP9. Invites the Secretary-General to support efforts to secure as soon as possible agreements in principle from the Government of Lebanon and the Government of Israel to the principles and elements for a long-term solution as set forth in paragraph 8, and expresses its intention to be actively involved;

OP10. Requests the Secretary-General to develop, in liaison with relevant international actors and the concerned parties, proposals to implement the relevant provisions of the Taif Accords, and resolutions 1559 (2004) and 1680 (2006), including disarmament, and for delineation of the international borders of Lebanon, especially in those areas where the border is disputed or uncertain, including by dealing with the Shebaa farms area, and to present to the Security Council those proposals within thirty days;

OP11. Decides, in order to supplement and enhance the force in numbers, equipment, mandate and scope of operations, to authorize an increase in the force strength of UNIFIL to a maximum of 15,000 troops, and that the force shall, in addition to carrying out its mandate under resolutions 425 and 426 (1978):

a. Monitor the cessation of hostilities;

b. Accompany and support the Lebanese armed forces as they deploy throughout the South, including along the Blue Line, as Israel withdraws its armed forces from Lebanon as provided in paragraph 2;

c. Coordinate its activities related to paragraph 11 (b) with the Government of Lebanon and the Government of Israel;

d. Extend its assistance to help ensure humanitarian access to civilian populations and the voluntary and safe return of displaced persons;

e. Assist the Lebanese armed forces in taking steps towards the establishment of the area as referred to in paragraph 8;

f. Assist the government of Lebanon, at its request, to implement paragraph 14;

OP12. Acting in support of a request from the government of Lebanon to deploy an international force to assist it to exercise its authority throughout the territory, authorizes UNIFIL to take all necessary action in areas of deployment of its forces and as it deems within its capabilities, to ensure that its area of operations is not utilized for hostile activities of any kind, to resist attempts by forceful means to prevent it from discharging its duties under the mandate of the Security Council, and to protect United Nations personnel, facilities, installations and equipment, ensure the security and freedom of movement of United Nations personnel, humanitarian workers, and, without prejudice to the responsibility of the government of Lebanon, to protect civilians under imminent threat of physical violence;

OP13. Requests the Secretary-General urgently to put in place measures to ensure UNIFIL is able to carry out the functions envisaged in this resolution, urges Member States to consider making appropriate contributions to UNIFIL and to respond positively to requests for assistance from the Force, and expresses its strong appreciation to those who have contributed to UNIFIL in the past;

OP14. Calls upon the Government of Lebanon to secure its borders and other entry points to prevent the entry in Lebanon without its consent of arms or related materiel and requests UNIFIL as authorized in paragraph 11 to assist the Government of Lebanon at its request;

OP15. Decides further that all states shall take the necessary measures to prevent, by their nationals or from their territories or using their flag vessels or aircraft,

(a) the sale or supply to any entity or individual in Lebanon of arms and related materiel of all types, including weapons and ammunition, military vehicles and equipment, paramilitary equipment, and spare parts for the aforementioned, whether or not originating in their territories, and

(b) the provision to any entity or individual in Lebanon of any technical training or assistance related to the provision, manufacture, maintenance or use of the items listed in subparagraph (a) above, except that these prohibitions shall not apply to arms, related material, training or assistance authorized by the Government of Lebanon or by UNIFIL as authorized in paragraph 11;

OP16. Decides to extend the mandate of UNIFIL until 31 August 2007, and expresses its intention to consider in a later resolution further enhancements to the mandate and other steps to contribute to the implementation of a permanent ceasefire and a long-term solution;

OP17. Requests the Secretary-General to report to the Council within one week on the implementation of this resolution and subsequently on a regular basis;

OP18. Stresses the importance of, and the need to achieve, a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East, based on all its relevant resolutions including its resolutions 242 (1967) of 22 November 1967 and 338 (1973) of 22 October 1973;

OP19. Decides to remain actively seized of the matter.

who's that?

You and Geggy?

not bad, free the kidnapped soldiers unconditionally, hezballah must immediatly and permanently stop attacks, lebanon must put 15,000 troops in the south to keep hezballah down. I'm not sure where the blue line is as borders go is it the curent border or a new one?

Now if only Hezballah ever kept their word or the UN ever had any real power at all this could work.

they're screwed.

http://ussneverdock.blogspot.com/200...-civilian.html

CNN has proof of hezballah faking photos, BBC however seems content to air video that has already been debunked as staged on their evening news.

I'm seriously considering boycotting BBC on news in the muslim world. They are even wrose about tell half truths in pakistan. If you ask me a half truth is worse then a whole lie.

So um yeah, um...

http://www.zombietime.com/stop_the_u...war_8_12_2006/

kevin, does freedom of speech extend to groups on our terror list, we're at war with? you're a by the books kind of guy. i mean - seeing a hamas flag hanging across from city hall , with those security guys in bullet proof vests seems like it's got to be a breach of something. what's your take?

there's nothing gratifying to see the crazy shit i always warned could happen, actually happening.

coward - i'm guessing you've seen there's video of the qana incident as well?

That's a tough call for me. I feel like if people wish to be ignorant and hateful in a free society, well than good for them. It just places the onus on folks like the woman who runs zombie time to expose these clowns, make them look like the asses they are, and hope you can winth public debate. It's what separates us from them, imo.

Edit:

"Gandhi and Nasrallah, together at last."

dude, San Fran is messed up.

I think my discomfort from this is the feeling that it's not an isolated example of nutty protest. I'm great at making crazed predictions, but it's not gratifying to see them come true. Where three years ago, If I said I had a fear of a USA Intifada, I would know how batshit crazy it sounded, now we see the imagery evoked symbolically. There's a scary climate developing, and it appears our country has lost the power to fight subversion. If we look at the situation in Israel, and the whole sham of a peace process, there have been no surprises. Yet Israel plays along despite knowing how things will end up, poorly. These acts of faith are supposed to prove a point, but the end means never outweight the consequences. If there's no fear of the long arm of Israel - then what?

The ISM and PLO have already joined forces in Gaza twisting the concept of fighting for peace, and here in the US we now see mainstream "peace organizations" alligned with hate speech, turning a blind eye to it. Someone I wish I could write off, like Debbie Schlussel with her conspiracy theories starts to sound like they might be right. http://www.debbieschlussel.com/ We know Bin Laden is very open with his intentions on what he plans to do - and he made it clear that he would set off a civil war in the USA. Dearborn, Michigan isn't a random spot on the map in that case. Does this mean Jews will need to radicalize too? Rabbi Meyer Kahane's seperatist and extremist views never took off with the JDL, aside from the clever "every Jew a .22" tshirts.... but it's getting harder to write him off now. Al Qaeda's first attack in the US is said to have been his assassination.

Now we go back to an act of civil disobediance, in loony SanFrancisco, hanging the flag of a terrorist group across from a City Hall. Arab supremacists doing Arab pride chants covering their faces makes me very uncomfortable, but factor in the amount of Holocaust turnspeak, conspiracies, replacement history, and now media manipulation and it's seriously concerning. Much of it seems coordinated. The dates of events are not random - the Israeli soldiers were kidnapped on the anniversary of Entebbe, just before the Jewish period of Tish B'av which also marks a year after the Gaza pullout - the UN deadline for Iran is the day Muslims mark Muhammeds flight to the cosmos from the Al-Aqsa Mosque.

So I have to wonder, at what point does hanging the flag of an illegal terror organization that bombed our Embassy and targeted our citizens cross the line?

Iran says disarming the genocidal, war inciting, iranian backed Hezballah organization is illogical and the UN should punish Israel.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...290540,00.html

there's a big surprise, next thing you'll see is a "boris yeltsin likeed booze" article

you seriously think i'm anti-Isreal just cuz I balk at the thought of giving them carte blanche in the name of defense?

well not nessacarily carte blanche but considering hezballah is an iranian founded political organization that is banned in sexeral countries due to it's terrorist acts and that they attack EXCLUSIVELY civilian targets it's almost like the the US vs. aliban war in afgahnistan. It's hard to think of any measure to strong to take them out.

We are worried for true civilian casualties but this is overshadowed by the faked ones and the awful reprecussions for people of all countires if hezballah is allowed to continue to exist.

If this truce holds up, considering all the interesting conversation this is bringing up would anyone else be interested in a palestine/israel thread?

I believe it's all the same conflict, there's no real reason to seperate them.

I can think of several. Pretty much any action that fits the bill of "cures the disease and kills the patient".

Please note that I have not stated any belief that I've seen evidence of any of our guys taking this route, though I think we are (perhaps quite necessarily) very close to that line in this conflict.

Any action that results in a net increase in the number of people who believe "asymmetric warfare" is a viable or necessary course of action is, quite simply, a failure.

It's funny how people being used as human shields seem to blame the people shooting their attackers. Asymetric warfare is, like it or not, very effective. It's kept the Sri Lankan rebels at it for 20 years. Sadly this method is almost certainly worse then the disease itself.

If they don't fight terrorists, even with their human shields, they will continue to kill civilians. Besides I'd like to see a real number put on the civilian casualties in lebanon, cause seriously most of these people are supporting, harboring, and helping the terrorists. Most of these terrorists operate out of their homes with their wives and kids lending a hand.

I bet you won't read this.

skip this too:

First of all, it isn't just two pics in question. The website that first caught the Reuters scam Has exposed a few, and not just from Reuters but the AP as well.

Zombie Time put together a good little piece on it. For example, you have frantic and distraught Lebanese woman here, after having her house destroyed on 7/22:



But odly enough, in a sick tiwist of fate, her house was destroyed again TWO WEEKS LATER!:



Omg! Those fucking Zionists are after her!

Also, at one point in the article, the guy asks why we should believe Israeli pics over those presented from Hezbollah, or Lebanese sources. Good question. Maybe th answer has something to do with one side's tendency to avoid civilian loss of life through precision bombs, phone calls prior to bombing (!), as well as leaflet drops and news reports...?

How does the other side perceive life, Ziggy? Why don't we ask green helmet guy, who admitted to parading a child's corpse around in order to make a point. And hey, who would assume that Hezbollah and radical muslims would hold such a low regard for life in the first place? Check out what happened to a villager who supposedly snitched info to the Zionists. My favorite part is the cell phones:



Those are an awful lot of *muslims, Ziggy! After they shot him, they decided to kick his dead body around for fun. Even mom got in on the action!

Is it sooo unthinkable that the same type of people who could do the above might also falsify a bombed location, or doctor a photo...?