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Ninjavenom Aug 7th, 2003 09:45 AM

Screw It, It's the FF8 Thread Now :o
This one should be better than everyone posting a new topic about a little question they have for a game, and hopefully people might respond to it or something. :/

FF8: I'm replaying it, and i remembered that i never learened how to look at the battle meter. The tutorials don't mention it or anything, but it supposedly contains stats about how many times i've died, run from battle, etc. The only problem is that i can't fucking find it! Do i have to talk to someone to use it or something? This bugged the shit out of me last time, too. If i can upgrade it, how the hell come i can't SEE it? Is it something that i've been looking at the whole time, or what?

timrpgland Aug 7th, 2003 12:30 PM

After Cid gives it to you it should be in the tutorial section man.

Ninjavenom Aug 8th, 2003 12:54 AM

O .o

Afraid i don't see it, chief. Is it under the main menu, or a sub heading? I know i've gotten it, and the upgrade for it inside of the prison.

Les Waste Aug 8th, 2003 02:19 AM

I've played through FF8 multiple times and I've never used the battle meter. Partly because I never cared enough, but also because I could never fucking find it.

FF8 is fun, but once you find the Islands closest to Heaven and Hell and realize you can use them to get unlimited Ultima, Aura, and other good spells, it gets WAAAAAY too easy. Except for Omega Weapon, the last level is a fucking joke.

Ninjavenom Aug 8th, 2003 03:10 AM

The game was way too easy anyway, if you've got enough HP and the right spells junctioned. Regen + HP :love

Les Waste Aug 8th, 2003 03:52 AM

Ultima + strength = :love

and once you can make spells out of items, the game because easier than Final Fantasy Mystic Quest. It's supposed to be hard to get the Tonberry GF, and yet, it wasn't.

Ninjavenom Aug 8th, 2003 05:34 AM

Aye, i stomped the shit out of him this time. As long as you've got HP, the world's your oyster. I found the meter, too. Go to the menu and go to Information > Information. Apparently i missed that every time i've played this for the past four years. >:

Ninjavenom Aug 8th, 2003 11:49 AM

Another ff8 one: How do i avoid spreading a rule? I can't play against someone when i select "no". How the fuck do i get Edea and Seifer if Random is in play? >:

timrpgland Aug 8th, 2003 12:39 PM

I'm not sure exactly, anymore, have you talked to that card expert lady in balamb?

You could have gotten Seifer from Cid during CD one before you head to Timber.

What are all the stats that the battle meter keeps? I don't remember.

Ninjavenom Aug 9th, 2003 12:37 AM

It keeps the steps walked, the battles fought, the battles won, and the battles run away from.

Les Waste Aug 9th, 2003 03:52 AM

It's not the random rule that I hate, it's all those other fucking rules. Like Combo, and same wall, which I can't figure the hell out for the life of me, and the other retarded ass rules I can't remember.

The card game in FF9 is better, but it's harder to find all the rare cards. I got pretty much all of the rare cards in FF8 that I don't have to play people in that fucking space station to get.

That pissed me off so much >:

Ninjavenom Aug 9th, 2003 04:56 PM

Haha, fag. It only took me two tries to get Laguna. :)

Les Waste Aug 9th, 2003 05:56 PM


At least I got the Seifer card >: :(

And random is the worst rule. I forgot about how people I challenged only have good cards, so random doesn't hurt them. But the game always would make my cards be four of the cards you start out with, and a character card, so that I wouldn't stand a chance of winning, but I would still lose a valuable card.

I almost threw my Playstation across the fucking room after that happend for that 400th time. >:

Ninjavenom Aug 10th, 2003 06:52 AM

That's why i stopped playing against them. Just a game my ass, Edea's family fucking cheats! You'd think that getting Cerberus and Quistis would make you a shoe in, but not when your other three cards are Geezards. >:

Zero Signal Aug 10th, 2003 11:43 AM

My girlfriend completed every aspect of FF8. :)

I remember her fighting the 1.6 million HP Omega Weapon, and winning the FIRST TIME. Woo!

James Aug 10th, 2003 01:43 PM

It's random, what rules get spread when you play (although still based on the last region's rules you played at). If a rule pops up that you don't like, reset without saving, and try again. If that doesn't work, play somewhere else with a more desirable rule, and reset if they stick you with one you don't like.

mew barios Aug 10th, 2003 02:04 PM

i tried and tried to play ff8. but i just couldn't get over the fact that it slides you on this idiot experience scale that ends up making you weaker for every level you gain. :| and squall is an irritating goon.

Ninjavenom Aug 10th, 2003 03:33 PM

I can't wait to fight Omega this time, because i just fought Ultima and annihilated the hell out of him. Squall died once, Irvine twice, and i only cast Aura twice (each separately on two people). He was level 100, too :(. AP Ammo :rock

As for the experience scale? I don't think it makes you weaker, chief. You have to earn the same exp. to go up a level every time, though, that's what annoys me. It's far too easy for a character to get to level 100 on that scale.

mew barios Aug 10th, 2003 03:40 PM

no i mean. when you level up the enemies have their level scaled. the less you level the easier enemies are to beat. it's dumb. dumb. :O

chief? :(

James Aug 10th, 2003 03:50 PM

Yeah, that kind of ticked me off too. Leveling up just game the game more challenging. While you have an HP limit, the enemies don't.

Omega is hard and easy at the same time. Basically, trying to do it the "proper" way is pretty much impossible. Your best bet is to just cast Aura on Squall, use his limit break, and pray he uses his most powerful attack. If not, reset.

Instant death.

soundtest Aug 10th, 2003 04:17 PM

FF7 hurt my feelings and FF8 turned me off of FF altogether.

Ninjavenom Aug 10th, 2003 07:53 PM

Sure mew, everyone's "chief" or "boss" or "buddy", whichever i feel like putting into me sentences at the time.

I don't mind the level scaling at all, though. It just made you have to think more about what you're junctioning. It also made sure you kept up with the latest possible magic all the time. For instance, as soon as you could go anywhere with the garden, you'd have access to Ultima (5,000g at Shumi Village), if you're willing to pay for 10-15 of the spell per draw. I dunno about you guys, but i explored every nook and cranny of the map as soon as i could with the garden. As long as you keep up with the availability of spells, the game's very, very easy.

I didn't like FF8 as much as 7 when i first played it, but now i love it more than 7. I'm not a fan of the old ones, so that might be why i can like them so much. I played the american FF2, and i loved that, but now i get bored with RPGs unless they've got tons and tons of eye candy to distract me from the monotonous math.

Les Waste Aug 10th, 2003 08:18 PM

The first time I won FF8, Dirk (Squall is a gay fucking name so I renamed him Dirk >: ) was in level 100. Zell and Rinoa were both in like level forty something, adn all my other characters were like in level 25 to 30. I could have easily won the game using only one character, because that's basically what I did. But it's not like I needed anybody to be in a higher level. Everyone's HP was still at 9999, because of that junction shit. I beat Ultima weapon on my first try, in only three moves: Draw Eden, cast Aura on Dirk, and Dirk did his fouth limit break. I don't even know if he attacked me. I've never beaten Omega weapon, although I didn't try too hard what with him being completely inconsequential and all.

The thing that really pisses me off about FF8 is the whole way you get new weapons. Getting adamantine is ridiculously hard, since those fucking turtles you get it from are rare as hell, and even if you do finally find one, it usually won't drop any adamantine.

Zero Signal Aug 10th, 2003 08:46 PM

So first you bitch about it being too easy, then about it being too hard. :rolleyes

Les Waste Aug 10th, 2003 09:51 PM

It's not so much hard as it is annoying to upgrade your weapons. I probably could have won the game without upgrading any of my weapons once, but since I'm a completist fag who has to do everything short of beating Omega weapon (cause I don't care about beating things that give you nothing but a worthless item that says you beat it), I spent way more time than I should have pacing back and forth on that one long, thin island that's all beach trying to find those fucking turtles and screaming every time I ran into an enemy that wasn't a turtle. And it's not like those fucking turtles are hard, it's just that they drop the items you need to get the best weapons, and even seeing one is a fucking miracle, and when you see one it usually won't drop the adamantin. I don't know why they couldn't have just, oh, I don't know, had fucking weapon shops where you could just simply BUY better weapons instead of piecing them together from screws and steel pipes.

In fact, I'm so much of a completist fag, that I collected the 100 Malboro tentacles necessary to get Quistis's last limit break, even though it fucking sucks. Which means I suck.

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