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TheCoolinator Mar 18th, 2010 02:33 PM

Might and Magic fans in the house?
 
This topic is about one of the most fantastic fantasy RPGs ever created. The Grandpa of all MMO's.



.....(applause)

The first time I layed eyes on an M&M game was when I was working for KB toys as a youth. In the store we had some cheap PC games on the computer rack. So, one fine day I decided to spend some of my minimum wage salary on a random computer game. I took out my wallet, closed my eyes, point my finger into the mess of PC games sloppily placed on the rack and miraculously picked out Might & Magic 7. Now usually I don't buy games that are half way through a series but I gave it a shot nontheless. I brought it home, cracked it open, and installed it on my PC. What I discovered after 20 minutes of playing it was a First-Person / Group based / RPG.

It had all the hallmarks of a regular RPG but was completely different in the way it moved. You could toggle in and out of turn-based combat, you could walk around 3D rendered environments at will, Travel to places all over the map, Pick and choose your quests ,promotions, friends, enemies, the digital skies were the limit.

The only thing I could possibly compare it to today would be a non-online, non-multiplayer MMO. Now I understand how little sense that makes but there is really no other way I can describe it. You roam the vast expanses of the virtual world talking to NPC, competing quests, and mastering certain skills through apprenticeship.

I always wondered if 3DO and New World Computing didn't go the way of the dodo, would we have be playing Might & Magic's successor instead of World Of Warcraft?

Anyone else play any of the M&M's ? Heroes included.

Pentegarn Mar 18th, 2010 03:06 PM

I liked the heroes series. I prefer Wizardry over M&M though for 1st person rpgs

TheCoolinator Mar 18th, 2010 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pentegarn (Post 676821)
I liked the heroes series. I prefer Wizardry over M&M though for 1st person rpgs

I'll definitely check it out. Is it an older game? :confused:

10,000 Volt Ghost Mar 18th, 2010 03:55 PM

HOMMIII is the best. I use either Solimar the Genie or the one elf that comes with movement plus.

Pentegarn Mar 18th, 2010 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCoolinator (Post 676844)
I'll definitely check it out. Is it an older game? :confused:

It is an older series, you can try the NES versions of the first 2 out on the every video game sight

Wizardry 1: Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord
http://www.everyvideogame.com/arcade...ay&gameid=1010

Wizardry 2: The Knight of Diamonds
http://www.everyvideogame.com/arcade...ay&gameid=1011

There were 8 in the original series, plus there was a PS2 one called "Tales of the Forsaken Land" that was interesting

Zhukov Mar 19th, 2010 12:24 AM

I've loved HOMM 2,3 and 5. Had a thing for the Undead.

Pentegarn Mar 19th, 2010 12:25 AM

The Undead in 5 were just nasty, especially when your skelly archers just kept building up and you had 1k+ of them killing most stacks in 1 attack

Zhukov Mar 19th, 2010 12:30 AM

Exactly! Get a few slots of 1k+ and they can do pretty well. I hated zombies though.

Pentegarn Mar 19th, 2010 12:38 AM

Zombies had one purpose, meat shields for your archers and liches :P

TheCoolinator Mar 19th, 2010 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pentegarn (Post 676945)
The Undead in 5 were just nasty, especially when your skelly archers just kept building up and you had 1k+ of them killing most stacks in 1 attack

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Originally Posted by Zhukov (Post 676947)
Exactly! Get a few slots of 1k+ and they can do pretty well. I hated zombies though.

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Originally Posted by Pentegarn (Post 676949)
Zombies had one purpose, meat shields for your archers and liches :P

Archers in general are pretty hard core at high levels, there is a spell that you can use that will stop them from being able to use their bows but I think it only lasts one turn. And in HOMM4 the zombie class continues to be just as tough. One of the hardest meat shields to get your troops through.

10,000 Volt Ghost Mar 19th, 2010 02:01 PM

I never got a chance to play HOMM V. Was it pretty much III with better graphics?

TheCoolinator Mar 19th, 2010 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 10,000 Volt Ghost (Post 677029)
I never got a chance to play HOMM V. Was it pretty much III with better graphics?

I can't really answer in detail because I only played it for an hour before uninstalling it. I didn't uninstall it because it was bad or anything, I just didn't have time to play it, and still don't :(

From what I remember it's beautifully rendered and the combat is pretty much the same. It actually reminds me more of HOMM3 combat style then HOMM4.

In HOMM4 the heroes have a lot of mobility while I believe in HOMM3 and HOMM5 they are stationary. The heroes can attack though in HOMM5 but you can't move them around the environment. After they hit their target they reset

10,000 Volt Ghost Mar 19th, 2010 03:50 PM

I never got Heroes IV because I saw that the map enemies get their own roam turn where they can just walk over and attack you. I still want to play Heroes V because I heard you can recruit blade dancers who pretty could get away with having the last name of Daermon N'a'shezbaernon. :(

TheCoolinator Mar 19th, 2010 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 10,000 Volt Ghost (Post 677041)
I never got Heroes IV because I saw that the map enemies get their own roam turn where they can just walk over and attack you. I still want to play Heroes V because I heard you can recruit blade dancers who pretty could get away with having the last name of Daermon N'a'shezbaernon. :(

In HOMM3 all enemies are locked in place during battle? I never played it, I just read reviews and saw screen shots.

In HOMM5 the enemies can roam the combat environment just like in HOMM4 but the hero that leads them is stationary.

Dimnos Mar 19th, 2010 04:30 PM

What? Stationary enemies? What is this, a game for pussies? Go play Age of Wonders 2.

10,000 Volt Ghost Mar 19th, 2010 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCoolinator (Post 677043)
In HOMM3 all enemies are locked in place during battle? I never played it, I just read reviews and saw screen shots.

On the world map enemies are locked in place. During combat they move around

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Originally Posted by TheCoolinator (Post 677043)
In HOMM5 the enemies can roam the combat environment just like in HOMM4 but the hero that leads them is stationary.

That sounds risky.

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Originally Posted by Dimnos;
THE THING YOU SAID ABOUT AGE OF WONDERS

I've never played Age of Wonders....what's that ruckus about

Dimnos Mar 19th, 2010 05:28 PM



I havnt ever played a HOMM game but Im guess its a lot of the same thing. You pick a race you want to play (human, elf, orc, goblin, undead, etc.). You have one mighty wizard guy that is supposed to be you. You can also recruit "hero" units to join your regular armies that arent as bad ass as your wizard but are much better than your regulars. One scenario or level takes place on a large area map that has cities all over it, at least one of which is under your control. You can upgrade cities that you control to have different buildings and thus produce different units of your race. Build a wall around it so its easier to defend when attacked. You can also build a wizards tower that will extend the range of your spells so you dont even have to move out of it to nuke enemy units. You can even build a teleportation chamber in the tower so you can teleport to another one of your cities that has a tower. Of course you can always walk but thats for suckers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Wonders_2

ChrisGlass Mar 19th, 2010 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 10,000 Volt Ghost (Post 677041)
I never got Heroes IV because I saw that the map enemies get their own roam turn where they can just walk over and attack you. I still want to play Heroes V because I heard you can recruit blade dancers who pretty could get away with having the last name of Daermon N'a'shezbaernon. :(

HOMMV is HOMM3 remade in 3d. So it's good.

Zhukov Mar 20th, 2010 05:05 AM

Yeah, it's like III only a little harder, I think. Obviously new enemies, heroes, races, spells etc.

No lizard people though, which saddens me :(

Kitsunexus Mar 21st, 2010 02:28 PM

Can't go wrong with M&M III for the SNES, I've always wanted to play the Amiga version, though. I FUCKING LOVE THE SYNTHBRASS SAMPLE IN THE INTRO.FUCK

Tadao Mar 21st, 2010 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitsunexus (Post 676567)
bye.

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Originally Posted by Kitsunexus (Post 676730)
I came back to get my avatar (i deleted it and changed my mind), but no I'm not talking about FF, I'm talking about ED:

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/I-Mockery

After being here for a while (and this time posting more than one or two posts), I've come to the conclusion that they are 100% right. I have my avatar so I'm leaving. Bye.

bye.

Supafly345 Mar 21st, 2010 08:58 PM

I swear I don't care I just forgot my bags.

Zhukov Mar 21st, 2010 11:23 PM

Guys, he's just here to collect his username.

executioneer Mar 22nd, 2010 05:57 AM

when i saw this thread i was all "oh man i bet coolinator likes one of the shitty might and magics after 6", and MAN sometimes i hate being right

mm2 is the best might and magic

executioneer Mar 22nd, 2010 06:13 AM

oh also: using a 3d environment for an RPG "mmo-style" was DEFINITELY not invented by the Might and Magic series. see: elder scrolls: arena, daggerfall, and battlespire. maybe drakkhen too, although it switched from FPS view to sort of an adventure-game view during combats. Ultima Underworld 1 and 2 also did fps-style RPGs although they didn't have free-roaming outdoors areas.


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