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Preechr Jul 25th, 2007 11:37 PM

I would just like to point out...
 
That I was freaking TOTALLY correct so far about Newt. Kevin may be the only one that remembers what the Hell I'm talking about here, but I'm batting a thousand right now on him. After my total failure in predicting 2006, I'm pretty happy about this, and currently basking in whatever glory I can imagine myself having at the moment.

That being said, given my criteria for a presumptive Republican nominee, I suppose it's looking like Rudy, which makes me cringe a bit. After Cheney's run, I guess I could allow for Newt to join in as a VP to whomever runs, but I'm thinking Rudy would pick Forbes to fill out his ticket... It's all still too muddled to call it yet.

God I hate American Idol style elections....

Preechr Jul 25th, 2007 11:39 PM

As long as I'm posting, which one of these glorious Democrat X candidates do you folks currently have your eye on? Which bland farce do you think will best fit the bill when it comes time to make John Kerry look like Al Gore?

KevinTheOmnivore Jul 26th, 2007 09:44 AM

I think it's funny that you focus on the Dems as a collection of jokers. Do you like the unqualified guy from law & order, or the tin hat Libertarian from Texas? Maybe the cross-dressing liberal from NY? How about the Ken doll from Mass. who can't decide what he thinks about a given subject week-to-week? (is the dog still strapped to the car?)

THe next president will be a Democrat. There are two choices. One is Hillary, who is far too polarizing to get anybody who doesn't like her to like her. Then you have Obama, a black man who wouldn't be able to negotiate with all of the tyrants he wants to, because some of them might try to cut his head off for being an apostate.

I say we sit this one out, see how 2012 looks. "Take 'er easy '08" could be the slogan.

p.s. - Newt has no neck.

mburbank Jul 26th, 2007 09:48 AM

Yeah, I gotta say we are truly, truly in bizarro world now.

And Newt was actively, actively cheating on his wife during the Clinton impeachment, which while hardly relevant as far as leadership goes, just won't play, especially when couple with moving to that wife by telling cancer wife in the hospital, and cancer wife was his high school math teacher, if I have my repellent facts about Newt in ordr correctly, which it's hard to do.

Keep in mind that Newt is so repulsive, he couldn't even hang on to the role of Speaker because it simply cast too much light on what a truly awful person he is.

Preechr Jul 26th, 2007 06:34 PM

None of which changes my 100% correctness on Newt's role in this election cycle. I have come to understand Americans SOOOO exceedingly well I was able to predict his every move way back when Kevin had to Google his name to figure out who I was talking about.

Oh, and Kevin, I'm still not a Republican, though I still think Progressive Socialism is both ridiculous and frightening. I dislike any form of authoritarianism, which includes most of what government does no matter which side is in charge. Just because I think your Justice League is an anti-American freak show with less than a snowball's chance in Hell of winning a presidency next year... at least in this country... doesn't automatically mean I'm sending in campaign contributions from one of the equally laughable riff-raff comprising the Legion of Doom.

Hillary Obama John Kachoonik The also rans

VS

Rudy Mitt Fred Newt:party and all the Republicans still in Congress...

KevinTheOmnivore Jul 27th, 2007 08:17 AM

Right, right...had to google his name.

Nothing has changed for Newt since he started annoying us all with talks of entering the race as a lesson to all the not-crazy-enoughs who wanted to run. Newt got taken off the hook, and now Fred! is around to annoy us with his "thinking about it" campaign.

A Democrat is going to win the White House. If Republicans want to project something on to Thompson that isn't there, well it will only be easier for the Democrats. Ditto for Newt. Here's yet another guy who loves to tell people how they shouldn't listen to government (just the guy who was speaker for one of the branches), yet can't live up to the standards he blathers on about. VP candidates do very little, so Newt can knock himself out and be the #2 on a losing ticket all he wants.

I understand your reservations about the "progressives," but the GOP isn't offering anything better than Hillary or Barack.

Preechr Jul 27th, 2007 02:51 PM

I'm gonna go on the record right now with America is still not ready for anything other than a white guy as President. I mean, people are having fits about Romney's Mormonism, for fuck's sake! It ain't happening. Sure, she'll probably win the nomination, and I don't see it being too far fetched to see Obama on the ticket as VP, but they won't win.

Now, think on this one: What if Obama BEATS Hillary? Would she join his ticket? ...or would she sink his campaign altogether? The Clintons have always divided your party... maybe she might split off altogether. Ever stop to consider that Bloomberg may toss his "independent" campaign to her if that's the case? Democrat voters have become an awfully cagey lot since 2000. I just don't see her as the shoe in she used to be. Kerry proved what entering the race with an already prepared, well-oiled attack machine set against you can do, and she has that in spades. She knows it too...

She has built so many walls against any real questions being asked of her, but that won't last forever. Kos and the internet brigades will want to know she can survive an election before they actually throw their weight behind her in the primaries, and Obama is just cleaner than she is. I think the far-left fringe is still too small and newly organized to do anything other than show a united front in 08, but I'm not so sure they'll unite for her. I also think the weight they do carry is so hip right now the traditional media will follow whatever lead they take without reservation, even if that means throwing Hillary under the bus.

Regardless, neither will be the next President... not of this country anyways.


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