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Rongi Apr 26th, 2007 11:11 PM

stoner/doom metal thread
 
first of all, let me say that "stoner metal" is quite possibly the dumbest name for a genre i've ever heard.

but hey, i really dig this kind of metal. this slow, "slug fucking" music as one of the guys from Earth put it.

The only thing is, doom/stoner metal bands tend to sound pretty god damn similiar.

Dixie May 17th, 2007 02:12 AM

I hate to be the uppity asshole here but there is a big difference between stoner and doom. People that do the "stoner/doom" label for thier bands are considered posers and incredibly gay by many. That being said, most stoner stuff is a variation of southern rock, just a little heavier. And some of it is pretty good (Leadfoot is a local favorite in these parts). The term "stoner metal" is invalid, most metal heads are stoners in some form, "stoner rock" has become a popular choice of label because rock's cool again. Alot of the stoner rock/metal bands are really in a scene popularity contest (go to the Hellride Music forums to see that in action, particularly the Doom Metal forum. Or you can even go the the detestable and protested doom-metal.com to see it).

When it comes to doom, not all of it is slow, and most of the best doom does not have the screamer vocals. I prefer clean vocals myself.

Rongi May 17th, 2007 09:58 PM

i also prefer clean vocals in, well any genre to be honest. although i thought the screaming in Boris' "Amplifier Worship" album was apropriate.

What are some of these "not slow" doom metal bands you speak of?

Angryhydralisk May 19th, 2007 07:47 PM

Doom Metal. Been loving this shit since '03. I think it's amazing all the stuff I have missed out on (Just last year, I heard Spine of God by Monster Magnet and while it isn't exactly doom, it may be one of the best stoner albums EVER.)

Fast doom? The closest I can think of is Debris Inc., which wasn't all that great.

Fathom Zero May 19th, 2007 08:14 PM

Hmmmmm...

Cathedral. And Electric Wizard goes without saying.

Dixie May 24th, 2007 04:47 AM

Well there's more so alot of mid-paced doom than really fast. Candlemass has some more mid-paced songs, The Reverend Bizarre...Hold on, this is total deja voodoo:
http://www.i-mockery.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22354
There's some good bands mentioned in there, Cathedral have good music, but Lee does the death vocal thing which I'm not a huge fan of. I would suggest Old Season as well, epic doomy Irish metal! Paul Chain has some somewhat up tempo songs. Cirith Ungol isn't always slow. Solitude Aeturnus is killer as well as Trouble! The Gates of Slumber are as well a faster doom.

kahljorn May 25th, 2007 08:27 PM

Some doom metal is really gay because they have opera music in the background which is what makes 90% of death/black/whatthefuckever music incredibly gay.

One of my favorite stoner rock bands is YOB who nobody has probably heard of but it's awesome. In a way it reminds me of godspeed because, if I remember right, they have really long songs. They don't sound anything alike but it's just the same feel... sort of the same feel I get from Neurosis as well.

i made those exact suggestions in that other thread because they are pure coolness.

Cliff Steele Jun 3rd, 2007 04:54 PM

church of misery :o

Darryl Jun 24th, 2007 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carnivore Is God (Post 491013)
Or you can even go the the detestable and protested doom-metal.com

Carn, what's wrong with doom-metal.com? not that I go there a lot, but I'm just wondering...

Angryhydralisk Jun 24th, 2007 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cliff Steele (Post 492635)
church of misery :o

Second that. Second Coming is fuckin' badass.

SLjimbolian Jul 15th, 2007 06:29 PM

Cathedral and Sleep would be my favorites.

Angryhydralisk Jul 16th, 2007 04:23 PM

Orange Goblin's new album definitely has a doomed vibe to it.

More doom bands! Pentagram, Trouble, Saint Vitus, Goatsnake, Burning Witch, Asva, OM....

ItalianStereotype Jul 17th, 2007 12:31 AM

man, not to go off topic or anything, but I would trade almost everyone in this thread for CiG to come back.

SLjimbolian Jul 21st, 2007 02:59 AM

Check out Lair of the Minotaur, they're signed to Souther Lord Records.

And I'm shocked no mention of Candlemass yet :(

Angryhydralisk Jul 21st, 2007 01:44 PM

I've heard the best albums are the ones not featuring Messiah Malcolin (He puts the MASS in Candlemass).

sloth Jul 22nd, 2007 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLjimbolian (Post 497140)
And I'm shocked no mention of Candlemass yet :(

i'm shocked that you failed to notice the mention of candlemass at approximately five repies in, bellend

SLjimbolian Jul 23rd, 2007 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angryhydralisk (Post 497163)
I've heard the best albums are the ones not featuring Messiah Malcolin (He puts the MASS in Candlemass).

True, some people consider Epicus Doomicus Metallicus their best, but I like Ancient Dreams better.

Dixie Jul 25th, 2007 11:46 PM

Awww I love you too ItalianStereotype! I've just been busy lately. But Everyone who likes doom NEEDS to get The Reverend Bizarre's newest album So Long Suckers due out in august. We just got a copy and it's everything that awesome about doom.

Atari Dragon Aug 2nd, 2007 10:55 PM

Bongzilla pwns

EndersGame Aug 3rd, 2007 12:58 AM

Metal and getting stoned are two items that should never be said in the same sentence let alone the same hyphenated word. "Stoner Rock" makes sense in a lot of ways, but the Metal genre is defined by its "distortion" and I cant imagine enjoying distortion with a head in the clouds.

The All Music Guide states that "of all rock & roll's myriad forms, heavy metal is the most extreme in terms of volume, machismo, and theatricality.
hmmmm sure doesn't sound like something a stoner would enjoy......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoner_rock

Ninjavenom Aug 3rd, 2007 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EndersGame (Post 498438)
Metal and getting stoned are two items that should never be said in the same sentence let alone the same hyphenated word. "Stoner Rock" makes sense in a lot of ways, but the Metal genre is defined by its "distortion" and I cant imagine enjoying distortion with a head in the clouds.

The All Music Guide states that "of all rock & roll's myriad forms, heavy metal is the most extreme in terms of volume, machismo, and theatricality.
hmmmm sure doesn't sound like something a stoner would enjoy......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoner_rock

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Rongi Aug 3rd, 2007 02:02 PM

Endersgame, has anyone ever told you you are a complete and utter faggot?

Angryhydralisk Aug 6th, 2007 05:03 PM

I can't wait until September to see OM.

Rongi Aug 6th, 2007 05:05 PM

where?

Angryhydralisk Aug 7th, 2007 02:23 AM

Southgate House in Newport. I'm gonna try my damndest to make this one. I missed Earth and Khanate a year or two back. While missing Earth sucked in itself, I still got a chance to see them one day...I can't even get that with Khanate.


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