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XtinaxFan Mar 21st, 2008 07:04 PM

Rammstein
 
I like them, learning German at school and they help me to stay motivated to keep going with it (trust me I'm not very linguist material).
Anyone know any similiar German bands of the Tanz Metall/Neue Deutsche Harte genre they could recommend?
And if you like/dislike them say why.
[feel free to complain about the "i-do-the-hitler-salute-everytime-I-hear-du-hast imbeciles]

MetalMilitia Mar 21st, 2008 07:07 PM

I've always wanted to see one of the live concerts - apparently they're pretty spectacular.

XtinaxFan Mar 22nd, 2008 07:56 AM

Yeah me too, they use all the pyrotechnics in their shows. Apparantly their new album will be out later this year and then a world tour. Their site sort of useless for new info though, so check out herzeleid. c o m
Would love to see them live, can live in hope.

liquidstatik Mar 22nd, 2008 01:12 PM

i don't like them at all, because they suck :x

mew barios Mar 22nd, 2008 07:07 PM

check out oomph! if you haven't. GlaubeLiebeTod is a good album

Dommin Mar 23rd, 2008 06:31 AM

Neue Deutsche Harte is the actual genre's title. If you like Rammstein, check out Megaherz, Oomph!, Eisbrecher, Die Krupps, and Laibach.

XtinaxFan Mar 23rd, 2008 06:46 AM

Thanks for the suggestions.
[knew about the genre title, I say tanz metall because its more explanatory of the sound though]

Dommin Mar 23rd, 2008 06:52 AM

Neue Deutsche Harte=New German Hardness. Much more descriptory. I don't know many people who dance to Rammstein. Mosh? perhaps. No dancing, though. Unless you call moshing dancing, like Men Without Hats did.

Anyway, when you're looking over the Die Krupps stuff, you'll probably like their newer stuff more than their older stuff. It's more Rammstein-like, while their older stuff is more electronic based.

XtinaxFan Mar 23rd, 2008 07:10 AM

[quote=Dommin;541423]Neue Deutsche Harte=New German Hardness. Much more descriptory. I don't know many people who dance to Rammstein. Mosh? perhaps. No dancing, though. Unless you call moshing dancing, like Men Without Hats did.

No man, you can dance to Rammstein. No windmills needed, just be creative (and drunken helps). Moshing is an expression of angst - for misunderstood pit fearing kids, yeah...
Tanz though = dance, when you think dance you think electronic elements, not much of that in metal (generic metal like what you think instantly like Slayer) but lots in Rammstein. But little things man, irrelevant. As long as its good.
I'll be sure to check them out, didn't Richard leave to join that band? Or no thats Emigrate (sp?), nevermind.
I'm enjoying our chatting, its cool to hear someone else pro European music. Great how different languages, foreign bands are getting more global success, like I don't know any Korean bands but we all know American ones y'know.

Dommin Mar 23rd, 2008 07:39 AM

I've never seen anyone dance to Rammstein. Just moshing, or headbanging.

I know what Tanz means. Mostly due to the Laibach song, "Tanz Mit Laibach"

Ein, Zwei, Drei, Vier!
Bruederchen, Komm Tanz Mit Mir!

Slayer also isn't generic metal by any means. Generic metal would probably be Nu-Metal..which, like Rammstein, isn't really metal at all.

Richard's still in Rammstein. Maybe you got confused because his last name is Kruspe? Not Krupps. :P Die Krupps outdates Rammstein by 14 years or so.

I listen to a lot of European bands because they make more of the music I like (Industrial, Metal, NDH) than American bands do. I'm just a victim of circumstance.

XtinaxFan Mar 23rd, 2008 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dommin (Post 541432)
I've never seen anyone dance to Rammstein. Just moshing, or headbanging.

I know what Tanz means. Mostly due to the Laibach song, "Tanz Mit Laibach"

Ein, Zwei, Drei, Vier!
Bruederchen, Komm Tanz Mit Mir!

I listen to a lot of European bands because they make more of the music I like (Industrial, Metal, NDH) than American bands do. I'm just a victim of circumstance.

Wish I was as intellectual as you! :worshipYou know your stuff, thats cool. But hey we all start somewhere though :newbie. I just meant like what you think of when you think metal, like you can think something like DBZ when you think cartoon even though its an anime.
I'm not good at expressing stuff :\
Who left Rammstein? There used to be six right? This looks like job for Wiki...
I love industrial, just the pounding :maul rhythem/beat just gets me everytime.
Do you know Pendulum? I've heard their new albums gonna move into a more industrial zone.
Are you from Europe? I'm from UK - part of Europe that fears Europe.
Just heard Helden by Apocalyptica, has Till Lindemann feat on it. Takes a while to build up but its great after that.
Ein, Zwei, Drei, Vier!
Bruederchen, Komm Tanz Mit Mir!
1.2.3.4
Brother (?) come dance with me.
Yeah my german is furchtbar

sspadowsky Mar 23rd, 2008 10:41 PM

Goodness from Rammstein:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_k-vPv-XEpg

Guitar Woman Mar 24th, 2008 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidstatik (Post 541209)
i don't like them at all, because they suck :x

:D

Pub Lover Mar 24th, 2008 02:28 AM

Like you have any taste, GW.

Guitar Woman Mar 24th, 2008 02:43 AM

Every time that fucking DU HAST MIE song comes on the radio I seriously consider killing myself to get out of hearing it

Pub Lover Mar 24th, 2008 02:52 AM

Baby, fly to NZ, fuck me, then kill yourself. ;(

Dommin Mar 24th, 2008 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XtinaxFan (Post 541536)
Wish I was as intellectual as you! :worshipYou know your stuff, thats cool. But hey we all start somewhere though :newbie. I just meant like what you think of when you think metal, like you can think something like DBZ when you think cartoon even though its an anime.
I'm not good at expressing stuff :\
Who left Rammstein? There used to be six right? This looks like job for Wiki...
I love industrial, just the pounding :maul rhythem/beat just gets me everytime.
Do you know Pendulum? I've heard their new albums gonna move into a more industrial zone.
Are you from Europe? I'm from UK - part of Europe that fears Europe.
Just heard Helden by Apocalyptica, has Till Lindemann feat on it. Takes a while to build up but its great after that.
Ein, Zwei, Drei, Vier!
Bruederchen, Komm Tanz Mit Mir!
1.2.3.4
Brother (?) come dance with me.
Yeah my german is furchtbar

To my knowledge, there's still six.

Haven't heard of them, I'll check on them.

Anything by Apocalyptica's good. Especially when Till's involved.

One, Two, Three, Four,
Little Brother, Come Dance With Me. :)

XtinaxFan Mar 24th, 2008 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dommin (Post 541682)
To my knowledge, there's still six.

Haven't heard of them, I'll check on them.

Anything by Apocalyptica's good. Especially when Till's involved.

One, Two, Three, Four,
Little Brother, Come Dance With Me. :)

Pendulum are awesome. Its like a drum & bass vibe so I don't know whether it'll be to your tastes, but they attract a pretty wide audience not just dance fans.
"Blood Sugar" is the famous song, the Hold Your Colour album is amazing. "Tarantula" gets played in the rock clubs...
Or just check out their "Slam" music video on YouTube. if that doesn't convert you nothing will :)
Apocalyptica rock, windmilling and cello is a damned good combination.
Bruderchen right. I'll remember that one, like in Spielt Mit Mir.

Girl Drink Drunk Mar 24th, 2008 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guitar Woman (Post 541612)
Every time that fucking DU HAST MIE song comes on the radio I seriously consider killing myself to get out of hearing it

Please do.

Hangie Mar 24th, 2008 05:42 PM

Hey, I was just about to start a topic about rammstein, ya know what they say, idiots flock in groups.

Anyway today in school I had to go for a "check-up" of sorts at the guidance counselor and when I said one of my favorite bands was rammstein he said " The ones the columbine kids liked?" with a look of serious fear one his face. Now I'm probably going to be reported as unstable or something :(.

Cedar Mar 24th, 2008 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetalMilitia (Post 541050)
I've always wanted to see one of the live concerts - apparently they're pretty spectacular.

They seem to be really fun, but most of their music sucks.

XtinaxFan Mar 24th, 2008 06:53 PM

Anyway today in school I had to go for a "check-up" of sorts at the guidance counselor and when I said one of my favorite bands was rammstein he said " The ones the columbine kids liked?" with a look of serious fear one his face. Now I'm probably going to be reported as unstable or something :(.[/quote]

I did a presentation about Columbine and used Rammstein clips (cited as an influence, I argued against).
Go on Wikipedia's Rammstein page, if the school give you hassle quote their official statement about the incident ("could not have caused it").
Or just start singing Weisses Fleiss - lyrics include "you in the schoolyard, shoot to kill".
Depends on whether your tactics are offensive or defensive :)

Hangie Mar 24th, 2008 07:00 PM

Yea I'm pretty sure if I did that my school would go into a lockdown because I live in asinine liberal Massa2shits ( Im so clever :D), also, my favorite song is zwitter. What be yours?

XtinaxFan Mar 24th, 2008 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hangie (Post 541776)
Yea I'm pretty sure if I did that my school would go into a lockdown because I live in asinine liberal Massa2shits ( Im so clever :D), also, my favorite song is zwitter. What be yours?

I live in a boring grey little English, like suburbia thats like 10 mins away from rough areas XD
Zwitter is an amazing track :orgasm
I'd have to say "Bestrafe Mich" (so damn many, "Du Reichst So Gut" with that instrumental) or "Mutter" itself - I know *shock* a single but its the first one I really connected with and made me get into them more.
Song I hate though "Kuss Mich", off the Sehnsucht album. Those little cartoony sound effects make me cringe everytime, its just like a joke thats not funny.
See i'm not some "sun shines out their arses" person, I can be rational.

Hangie Mar 24th, 2008 08:21 PM

[quote=XtinaxFan;541787
See i'm not some "sun shines out their arses" person, I can be rational.[/QUOTE]

what does that mean my friend?


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