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theapportioner Jan 23rd, 2004 08:52 PM

Personal Identity
 
What defines "you"?

The One and Only... Jan 23rd, 2004 08:55 PM

Competition, hatred, theory, abstractions, and radical doubt.

mburbank Jan 23rd, 2004 09:00 PM

And being a hosebag. Don't forget that.

theapportioner Jan 23rd, 2004 09:00 PM

Ok, not quite what I was trying to get at. What makes an individual the person he or she is? Bodily shape? DNA? Soul? etc.

mburbank Jan 23rd, 2004 09:02 PM

Oh. I thought you meant OAO speciffically. Which is where the whole hosebag came in.

The One and Only... Jan 23rd, 2004 09:03 PM

First, prove that there is a "you". Then you might have a case.

theapportioner Jan 23rd, 2004 09:19 PM

I'm asking you to do it, bitch.

The One and Only... Jan 23rd, 2004 09:22 PM

"I" is an illusion. There is no "I." In fact, there is not anything. There are not even perceptions. It's all based on arcane preconceptions that cannot logically be proven, such as A=A. Because of the nature of words and definitions, they are never directly applied to the concrete world; rather, they are tied to abstractions in which axioms have become tautology.

Well, theoretically anyhow. Maybe there is an "I"...

theapportioner Jan 23rd, 2004 09:32 PM

*shrug*

I'm not necessarily talking about a Cartesian "I" or ego.

So you deny the correspondence theory of truth? So much for your economics.

Regardless, people still conceive of themselves as having an identity.

The One and Only... Jan 23rd, 2004 09:34 PM

I accept certain things for practical reasons. I just don't feel that I can say I am absolutely, 100% certain of their truth.

theapportioner Jan 23rd, 2004 09:36 PM

Fine. Practically speaking, what do you have to say about personal identity.

Perndog Jan 23rd, 2004 11:58 PM

I am I, Don Quixote
The Lord of La Mancha
My destiny calls and I go
And the wild winds of fortune shall carry me onward
Whither so ever they blow

Suck 'n' Fuck Jan 24th, 2004 12:50 AM

I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.

Brandon Jan 24th, 2004 01:03 AM

I'm a homo sapien with blonde hair and blue eyes; about 5'8" tall and 170 lbs. And my name's Brandon.

Seriously, I don't really believe in a unified "self," at least not in the sense that it's something inside of me. It's basically a collection of learned behaviors, instincts, other biological determinants, and unconscious and conscious thought processes.

ItalianStereotype Jan 24th, 2004 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One and Only...
"I" is an illusion. There is no "I." In fact, there is not anything. There are not even perceptions. It's all based on arcane preconceptions that cannot logically be proven, such as A=A. Because of the nature of words and definitions, they are never directly applied to the concrete world; rather, they are tied to abstractions in which axioms have become tautology.

Well, theoretically anyhow. Maybe there is an "I"...

let me first say that I've been doing sdrinking since about 2 in the afternoon.. after reading all o fhtis Ib think that not aonly are you a narcissistic fuck, but YOU don't even know what the fuck you're saying half the time. I mean look at what you typed! Do yo uspend your days in a coffee shop thinking that you're the only non-comformist around you and that goateees a4re cool?

Suck 'n' Fuck Jan 24th, 2004 03:10 AM

He's not old enough to grow a real goatee. All he has on his chin is peach fuzz.

The One and Only... Jan 24th, 2004 01:47 PM

Goatees are for the French. And I hate contemporary Frenchmen.

Suck 'n' Fuck Jan 24th, 2004 03:43 PM

Why do you hate them so? Seriously.

The One and Only... Jan 24th, 2004 05:18 PM

Because they stand for everything they used to hate. In another era, Paris was the center of the Enlightenment. Now it's the center for the expansion of European socialism.

camacazio Jan 24th, 2004 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArtificialBrandon
I'm a homo

:lol2

theapportioner Jan 24th, 2004 06:54 PM

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george Jan 24th, 2004 07:22 PM

i am a complete individual.

i think my own thoughts, and i am complete and seperate.

no one can prove different to me.

illusion or not, it is real to me. good enough for daily life. quit watching the matrix so much, it makes you stupid.

The Unseen Jan 24th, 2004 07:24 PM

Yeah, this one friend I have is obsessed with the matrix. He gets drunk and says all this fucked up theories and stuff for hours.

"Dude, I'm going to go to school next week and punch the principal in the face AND HE'LL THINK IT HURTS and emotions aren't even real ramble ramble ramble ramble"
:(

Suck 'n' Fuck Jan 24th, 2004 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One and Only...
Because they stand for everything they used to hate. In another era, Paris was the center of the Enlightenment. Now it's the center for the expansion of European socialism.

SOCIALISM IS THE DEVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

derrida Jan 24th, 2004 11:09 PM

I say that my personality is a conversation about conversations about conversations about myself in a language that belongs partly to me and partly to my social milieu.


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