[Ronnie Raygun]

"BTW, Ronnie? That Kerry/Fonda picture was photoshopped." - Mod

One was but that's not the one I was talking about.

"I gotcha. So it DOESN'T matter if Kerry was "hanging out" with Jane Fonda or merely attending an event that she was at?" - Gasux

No you don't. Kerry was at a rally which he spoke at along with Jane Fonda. The rally was full of anti-war protesters who called American GI's baby killers and spit on them in airports when they came home. Many of them were also communists, the very thing that this country was fighting at the time.....and that's why vets are angry at Kerry.

And that's a fact.

"Bush 'hung out' with 'Kenny Boy Lay' and took loads of money from him." - Max

So did Gore and the democrats. Why did you fail to mention that?

"Rumsfled 'hung out' with Saddam Hussein and shook his hand." - Max

HAHAHAHA! I think you're laughing too.

"The damage is done, the connection has been drawn.....and voters are pissed that they encouraged coroporate criminals who stole their retirement and despotic tyrants who used WMD on their own people." - Max

Maybe, but they don't blame Bush. Maybe that's why you are so frustrated.

" As far as war crimes being policy, I have four words for you. Winter Soldier, Tiger force. You will find in both cases far more testimonial eyewitness evidence to american war crimes than you will for people spitting on vets. In fact, you will find no contemporary evidence at all of spitting on vitenam vets beyond the metaphorical." - Max

What does any of that have to do with John Kerry. We are talking about John Kerry and what he said HE saw with his own eyes which was later exposed as a lie.

"On the issue of vets supporting or not supporting Kerry, I think you'll find that they're actual people with different beliefs, convictions and reaction to their war experience."

Kerry might be able round up a few for a photo op. The vast majority will be against him.

"Linking Kerry with Fonda is an insult to the intelligence of all who hear it, and an indication of the contempt in which certain elements of the Republican party hold their constituents" - Max

Nice play on words.....

The fact is that it hurts the left and exposes them for who they really are.

"Both W. and Kerry were high elected officials on Septmeber 11'th. True W. held the ntional stage, but 9/11 belongs to him no more than it does to any American and far less then it does to the families, firefighters and police." - Max

Bush isn't claiming that he "owns" 9/11. I don't know what you are talking about.

"If W. wants to tout his National Guard service, that would be a paralell to Kerry's service in Vietnam, another national tragedy both were around for and both reacted to in ways that define their characters."

I don't have a problem with that.

We can also talk about what Kerry did right after the war and talk about his voting record which didn't support the military one little bit.