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Old Mar 23rd, 2004, 12:06 AM       
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Originally Posted by Abcdxxxx
A) unlike Jews, the Palestinians have 21 other countries in the middle east to live in. 70% have chosen Jordanian citizenship. Any "Prison House" is the fault of the Palestinians own autonomous leadership, and the Arab nations who rule their own people with dictatorships and oppression. B) They had jobs inside Israel before the Intifada. Many Arabs hold jobs within Israel, and really why is it Israel's responsibility to employ a nation that claims it's ready for soveriegnty? C) Water? You're going to blame Israel for a water crisis that effects the ENTIRE area? Jews suffer from the same water rationing crisis as Arabs.
Since ABC and I clearly know where each other stand and disagree on this matter, I only want to chime in and agree with him on this point. I am of the opinion that check points and curfews that prevent Palestinians from going to work can only be counter-productive, for both Palestinians who need the work, as well as Israelis who could use the labor. I think both sides have prompted these problems. However, Arabs living WITHIN the Israeli border, regardless of the hardships they may face, still have the highest living standards out of any in the Middle East. The health services, educational services, and civic opportunities that are provide to them in Israel are superior to that of ANY other Arab nation. I think it's erronious to argue that the "Jews" are out to oppress the "Arabs." I for one am all in favor of scrutinizing Israel where they deserve it, but we should remain consistent here. How can we go on rants about "terrorist states" when many of the "Palestinian nationals" are merely people crossing the border from Lebanon and Syria...? And speaking of terrorist states, since we have a PLO, where's the LLO....? Where is the Arab indignation over Syria's treatment of its people? Where is the pan-Arab indignation over occupied Lebanon??? You're right Zukov, some people need to start rising up, but Israel isn't necessarily the only (or even the worst) target.

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Some thoughts:

- Genocide breaches international law, and the leaders of Hamas are responsible for the murder and wounding of thousands of Isrealis, and Americans. Yassin is responsible for the child abuse, and deaths of countless more Palestinians.

- Hamas already escalated the level of attacks when they sent two teenage boys into Ashdod with the intent of releasing a poison cloud over Central Israel.

- This was in preparation of Israel handing over Gaza.
Everything you say here is true ABC, however, is this really in the best interest of Israel, or anybody...? How many more civilians will die b/c of this? How many apathetic to moderate leaning Palestinians will now become radicalized by this??? How does taking out the figure head of an umbrella organization, with all of its webs and splinters, make the Israeli people (and for that matter the Palestinian people) any safer....?
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