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Originally Posted by Zhukov
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Israel and Zionism was initially founded on Socialist, and Communist principles within a Democratic context.
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I don't consider Herzl or Jabotinsky to have socialist or communist principles, (these are the only guys I know) so you will have to walk me through what you mean. |
If all you know of Zionism is Herzl and Jabotinsky, then you don't know much about Zionism. My statement above still stands despite your misunderstandings, and narrow minded limitations to comprehend it. It's even more ridiculous for you to attempt to claim they were just borrowing the Socialism title because it doesn't fit within your simplistic understanding of the terminology.
Ber Borochov had Marxist ideals. Po'alei-Tzion was their founding labor party and was the Zionist wing of worldwide revolutionary Marxism. David Ben Gurion even used Marxist phrasing at first, to argue that the true owners of land were the workers, and not the political or legal authority. If you can't differentiate between Hitler's youth camps, and a Kibbutz, then you're lost. Constructivism, the integration of building Socialism into institutions adopted the classic Marxist theme of a universal class. These Socialized programs continue today. If they didn't come from Socialists, then where did they come from?