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Okay, so we've established you don't know much about Judaism, I'm still waiting for the full response you promised. Otherwise you're just trying to swirve past a real rebutal. Kinda like when you insist we're talking about the creation of Israel/Zionism and then bring up the States recent capatilistic leanings to disprove the existance of idealogical mingling that happened over 100 years ago. Anyway, now you're not talking about Israel, you're talking about Jews, as a whole, and as a Nation. So watch your step.