[Brandon]

First of all, the Moore quote came from his own website.

While I agree with you about that, folks standing around a bombed out building looking at body parts don't usually take a moment to say "You know, before we give in to rage, I think we should examine the motivation of the guys who dropped that bomb."

No, but we're expected to do so, right Max?

And for those of you who think that this was ever in any way even remotely about toppling a dictator, I remind you, many of the same people in this administration worked side by side with Sadaam when he was a dictator. many of our current alies in the 'war on terror' are dictators. The world is fucking chock a block with dictators. If you think America should be in the business of toppling dictators because of who and what they are you should seriosuly look at any warm fuzzy feelings you have for W. and crew because they are just fine with dictators.

Nevertheless, a dictator was toppled.

'traitor' Brandon? First of all, I don't think he's advocating our defeat.

Praising the minutemen and proclaiming their imminent victory seems like a strong desire for an American defeat to me.

And as for Moore being unamerican, that's just nonsense. The guy has dedicated his life to advocating for American jobs. Call him protectionist, call him regressive, but unamerican he certainly is not.

He's an "advocate" for the working class. The fact that they're American is purely incidental for Moore.

As far as the rest of the tirades in this thread go, I'm not going to address emotional appeals. You're only using them to bully me into agreeing with you by painting me as a heartless prick. I don't like war; war is hideous, but it's a necessary evil at times. The world is a better place without Saddam Hussein in control, and leaving him alone would have caused much more suffering in the long run than overthrowing him.

You people only care about suffering when it can be traced back to the United States.