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" I think you using phrases like towel snapping, hazing, and getting your jointstuck in the zipper belittles it. Oh, I know you're four square against all that shit, but it's not like hazing is murder. The comparison is belittling. "

I didn't call it a hazing incident, I said that the seeds of the act resembled one. It was a cultural observation, not a rationalization or determination. It wasn't meant to condone or even compare acts. It's not even an orginal thought. To put that into context with a harsher outcome, doesn't belittle the actual crime itself. Perhaps you don't know enough about the word "hazing" or it's common usage understanding in relation to worse crimes? Weren't people smiling in some of those pictures? Do you know anything about pyschopathic murderors and their state of mind? Look into it.

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with either side of this argument really, so I haven't a clue what fucking insanity you've built in your head. I guess I do agree with the snippet higlighted from Kevin's link though. Mostly though, I'm consumed with the idea that it's all really upsetting and tragic. My comments were meant to express concern that this is a societal problem on an International level, and I take the same concern with this as I do when an American journalist is executed in Iran for his religion, or when Women are executed by stonings as a result of Shar'ia law. It goes on regardless of any occupations involved, and it's something that needs to stop. If you want to think that goes against your concept of the cover up, or that I'm making an excuse for the murders, then you're just really narrow minded. Sometimes people can fight the same cause as you without using the same chanted slogans. Get a grip. I'm obviously not managing to articulate my point here, but you seem more interested in having someone to disagree with anyway. I'm also starting to wonder how bright you are.