[Ronnie Raygun]

HAHAHAHA! You guys are so hopelessly ignorant. Do you really think you know more about my company than I do?

"An extra $85 million for pilots is a drop in the bucket compared to the $3.26 BILLION in debt resulting from other sources. Labour is almost always the biggest expense for a company, and one of the easiest for large companies to play around with." - Chimp

That $85 million isn't even included into the $3.26 billion. That $85 million is from a pay raise that they've just recieved 11 days ago. What the article states is that we will be losing $85 million more in the next year because they didn't refuse the pay raise. Next time pay attention to what you are reading.

"If Delta is having financial trouble, it only shows that they are poor negotiators, don't have good enough accountants to show the bad stuff in a good light or they are inept at attracting investors/customers. It's the free market at it's finest." - Chimp

Not at all. It's because we have pilots who are paid 17% more than the next highest paid pilots in the industry.....25% higher that the average. AND THAT"S BEFORE THE %85 MILLION DOLLAR A YEAR PAY RAISE.... .and refuse to temorarily give back and save the company they work for. Management still wants them to be the highest paid in the industry...just not by such a large margin...not right now.

Personally, I don't care what they make as long as it doesn't start to effect other employees livelihood.

"You work for them, Ronnie. Are you part of the union?" - Chimp

No. The union was voted down a few years ago THANK GOD ...or else we'd probably all be out of a job. Right now, despite the threat of bankruptcy (which would be a good thing), most of our jobs are safe.

"I'm guessing that you aren't skilled enough at whatever you do to belong in one." - Chimp

WoW! You're not very compassionate for a socialist. Here you are, hoping that I lose my job "SO I'LL SEE WHAT IT'S LIKE!". In fact, you probably all are. Well, I hate to disappoint but Delta Air Lines has a lot of cash and even though "bankruptcy" is an ugly word, I'll be just fine despite you wishes.

Anyway, unions mainly promote poor workmanship and bad attitudes towards the company. And I've seen that from first hand experience.

"Why don't you just go to your supervisor and ask for a pay decrease to do your part for the good of the company?"

It's simply not possible for me do to so. There isn't a system set up for that sort of thing.

"I think 30% would be an appropriate offer, since you don't Lean left." - Max

Why is that, Max?

"Since 2000, Delta has posted $3.26 billion in losses mainly because competition reduced fares and revenue."

"DAMN that leftist free market capitalism!" - Max

As I've stated and as the article shows it has less to do with free market capitalism and more to do with the greed of a labor union.

"But hold fast, Naldo. maybe the government will bail you out again at tax payer expense, which by the way, I'm fine with. What about you, should my tax dollars save your job?" - Max

No. I don't think your tax dollars should support a failing airline at this point.

"I'm not in the least glad Delta is going into bankruptcy. A lot of people could be out of work, and despite your gladhanding about the job situation, my bet is no one you work with will be too happy with the temp jobs and food service positions they'll need to take onece their unemployment runs out."

Nobody that I worl with will lose their jobs. The only reason Delta will go into bankruptcy is to break the union contract with the pilots. It doesn't mean Delta will go out of business or anything like that. AS THE ARTICLE STATES, Delta still has about $2.45 Billion dollars. It would take us 5 more horrible years to go out of business. You have to remember that Delta made more money in the 90's than any airline in history mainly because we were the least unionized and because we had a great CEO, Leo Mullin.....who spoke on behalf of all airlines before the U.S. House committee just after 9/11....and that's why we still have so much capital.


"Stuff like this should be a wake up call to people like you." - Max

It does. It shows me just how greedy labor unions really are and how they give little regard to anything other than their pocketbooks. It also shows just how hypocritical the left is by not condemning the actions of this particular labor union.

"But you'll sit there and blame the 'left' , be angry if you're asked to absorb a pay cut, happy if the government bails you out and mad if your taxes ever go up." - Max

I don't know where you're getting this load of shit....It contradicts everything I've stated. You always do this. You set up a paper arguement and try to paint my name on it. Well, it's not going to work, Max.

"You know I don't hope for you to loose your job, or take a benefit or pay cut. I don't even enjoy the irony of it happening while you crow about our great economy and desperately try to blame the left for getting thrown out into a market and economy lots of ppeopl have been dealing with the whole time you were making happy posts. There's nothing good about hard times." - Max

Well, since you are so concerned Max I want you to know that in order for me to lose my job, Delta Air Lines would have to go completely out of business which is very, very unlikely....I'd say, almost impossible. I may take a cut in benefits but a cut in pay is very unlikely as well even though Delta ticket agents are the highest paid in the industry (by .01%).

So Max, all those scenarios you had planned for me can go right back where they came from.....in the shit.

As I remember, when you were having trouble and were worried about losing your job I didn't make snide comments and they try to cover them up with "I don't enjoy the irony blah". I didn't look at it as a political opprotunity for me to get over on you personally. I honesty took NO joy at all from your bad situation.

That's what separats you (and others on this board) from me....you have no true compassion or tolerance for someone who might disagree with you politically......As far as music, art, film, comedy ...almost any other topic I find here at I-Mockery, I find much agreement and harmony between myself and others.

So, what am I to conclude from this?

Either you are bitter people who find it easier to abide by leftist ideals or you have been made bitter by leftist propaganda. Whatever the case, I scoff at your attempt to take me down like a snarling pack of wolves whilst I'm in the middle of what YOU percieve as being a personal tragedy.

Sorry to disappoint you....and thankyou for exposing yourself.