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Originally Posted by GAsux
Are you kidding me? Are you saying that no one knew prior to the end of the war, or even prior to the start of U.S. involvement in it, that the Germans were rounding up Jews and murdering them? That was some kind of secret unrevealed until after that war and had no impact on U.S public opinion prior to the war?
And further you're saying we DIDN'T get involved in the European theater to "save" Europe? The only reason we got involved was becuase they attacked one of our allies? Maybe I'm just misunderstanding what you've said.
Im pretty confident that as the Germans marched across Europe, both their attrocities AND the fear of the economic impact on the U.S. if the Nazi march was allowed to coninue all the way to Britan probably played a bit of a factor.
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Yes to your first paragragh. No one knew about the concetration camps as far as I know until we got into Germany which was very near the end of the war in Europe. Isn't it weird that still now people like you think it was only Jews,or atleast thats what you mention when you discuss nazi camps, that he was rounding up. 11 million people died in camps and 5 million were non Jews. Gypsies had more long term damage done to them than Jews. Because of WW2, Jews got their our country and now they are close allies with the only super power. I bet Hitler's punching his balls because of that. Why does everyone cry for them but not one tear is shed for the poor gypsies
I didn't say we got involved to save an ally or to save Europe. We declared war on Germany and Italy because they were allies with Japan and Japan attacked us directly. And the Japanese did some pretty horrible things during that war also before Pearl Harbor to other asians and that didn't rally the American civilians and I bet the average American today probaly doesn't even know Japan committed some terrible atrocities during WW2. The Japanese barely admit what they did.
The Nazis may not of marched to England(since its an island) but they bombed the friggin jebus out of it. It may be hard to believe now but the U.S. wasn't always eager to get into wars even when our good allies are involved.
Also do you know how many war crimes the Allies must of committed during WW2 before the media was following our soldiers with cameras and reporting the slightest incident of abuse?
American planes and British planes bombed German civilian targets on purpose to lower the moral of the German enemy. The average prisoner of war was treated decently since we hoped they would treat our POWs the same but half the time we just shot them when they surrendered instead of taking prisoners.
I can't belive you actually think that it was the atrocities of the Nazis that convinced us to fight in a war. That still doesn't make us(or any country in position too) to go to war now. Rwanda, Bosnia, ongoing in the Congo and now Sudan. And this is during the age of information where no one has an excuse to be ignorant to the atrocities. Which is why I find the U.N. to be tremedously ineffective when it comes to solving disputes.
I don't know much about the attitudes towards the economy at that time but the war started as our Great Depression was beginning to end, our entering the war def helped us completely pull out of the GD. After that horrible economic time I doubt people were overly concerned that Hitler would make the American economy worse. But I honestly could be wrong on this because I plead ignorant on how Americans thought the German war with other countries, would effect our economy.