[The_Rorschach]

Let me make this clear. Punk as a movement is dead. The last bands with any message to their music came out of the mid eighties nardcore scene, refering of course to Black Flag, False Confession, et al. . .Including NOFX.

Here is a sample of what I consider punk based on the scene I experienced as a kid:

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Punk: GG Allin and the Murder Junkies

Not-Punk: Lagwagon.

Punk: Souxsie Sou and the Banshees pre-1983

Not Punk: Sid Vicious or Jonny Rotten

Punk: The Addicts

Not Punk: The Strokes

Punk: Crass

Not Punk: Exploited

Punk: Operation Ivy

Still Punk: Rancid (if only because of Lint)

note: I was in High School in San Francisco, the biggest bands we used to watch over at Gilman St and Berkeley Square were AFI, The Vandals, Jughead's Revenge, Offspring and Green Day. With the exception of Green Day, there were all on Nitro Records and played the local venues for around five to seven bucks a show. Of course, this was when Offspring's album Ignition was out, and Green Day was doing 30,000 Slapped Out Happy Hours. Regardless, they all supported the local scene in the Bay Area and I can't help but think of them as Punk in spirit, if not message.

Was going to add Guttermouth, but I only remember them playing once. Might not have been a local band.