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Originally Posted by CaptainBubba
I shouldn't have to be arguing determinism with you. Its just an aspect of nature. Its just an endpoint from all logical thought.
This whole argument stems from people doing this:
"determism must exist because..."
then someone who doesnt understand what he just said going
"BUT WAIT WHAT ABOUT FLOWERS. FLOWERS ARE PRETTY. THAT HAS TO DO WITH THIS."
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It has to do whether flowers were planned or whether nature evolved in such a way as that the mathematical evolution (nature ordered itself) led to a beautyso that its beauty led to its attractiveness to insects and its continued success and whether beauty and mathematical perfection are the same in human subconscious. Order is the important part here. From whence does it come. That's important!