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So now that you can't use translation as an excuse, what is your response?

Did I use the translation as an excuse? I said it matters. I didn't say every translation is wrong and is full of flaws. Stop putting words in my mouth.

You see, the problem with Muslims who come up with these nice explanations is that you're out of touch with the clergy, and Imams.

You haven't been paying attention to anything I've said, then. I've already talked about my experience with Imams.

The Muslims follow the Hadith which was neither written by Mohamed nor by god and they do give the Hadith the status of the words of god.

Hadiths are words of the messenger, our prophet Mohammed, the ones that don't quote either God or the prophet are based on stories that (we believe) have happend to the prophet Mohammed. Check your sources before you spew more shit.

As for the story of Hindi

For the 2nd time, her name is Hind.

As an outsider, and a Jew, the beauty of your larger message is completely lost on me once the story ends in conversion

I don't really care how you interpret the story. I had a point and I made it. Take it how you will. Hind was not forced to convert. She converted way later after the incident that I spoke of, willingly. If she was forced to convert they would have forced her to do it before she taught herself more about Islam. However, this was not the case.