[mburbank]

Rorshach;

Jump back and unbunch your panties. You know what happens when you assume, and your assumptions about miss mod based solely on a single jaunty statement are unwarranted.

Morevoever just as Bush ain't no Truman (and that's damning with faint praise) Afghanistan ain't no Korea. Karzai's chances of surviving daily are slim enough. Much as I might like to see it, the idea of Karzai leading a western style democracy is pie in the sky. With our full support, they can't batten down the hatches in Kahbul, let alone the rest of the country. Even in South Korea, which is your best case scenario, we've maintained a heavy military presence all this time, we've never really left, and even so, we're coming dangerouysly close to square one there.

Plus, I don't think Western style Democracy is our goal at all. Democracy's have an ugly habbit of not doing as they are told. Look at old enemies France and Germany finding coming ground in standing against the US.